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H 22°, L 6°University of Wisconsin fraternity Alpha Epsilon Pi is awaiting a decision from the Greek Judicial Board regarding complaints filed in January alleging misconduct at an event at the Overture Center for the Arts and an illegal party.
The fraternity was on social probation, which prohibits the organization from holding social events, at the time of both parties, meaning the fraternity allegedly violated both Greek and Judicial Board bylaws.
A Dec. 18, 2009 letter (pdf) sent to Dean of Students Lori Berquam, Coordinator of Greek Life and Involvement Barb Kautz and an AEPi representative says there were “a number of serious problems” with an event held Dec. 4, 2009 in the center’s Promenade Hall and Terrace.
Signed by Jacqueline Goetz, director of event and patron services, the letter says the fraternity failed to have sober monitors, did not comply with crowd control efforts, engaged in lewd behavior and allegedly stole or carried in a bottle of wine.
The letter includes quotes from reports filed by six members of event and security staff, alleging incidents such as intoxicated monitors, a disapproving comment from the Madison Symphony Orchestra director, a male and female having sex in a bathroom stall and overall “chaotic obnoxious mayhem.”
The Overture Center retained $80 from the fraternity’s security deposit and prohibited them from renting event space for five years.
Overture spokesperson Robert Chappell declined to comment on the letter, but said with any event a contract is signed and both parties need to live up to the contract.
While a notice to appear before the Greek Judicial Board addressed to the fraternity says AEPi violated their social probation, AEPi President Jeff Herscott said the party was a philanthropic event, which is allowed by bylaws.
He said the event raised $2,010 to go toward the Jewish charity organization B’nai B’rith International.
“There were some people who didn’t hold their composure in the way I would have preferred, but I believe the positives greatly outweigh the negatives,” Herscott said. “It would not be fair to judge our fraternity by a few allegations by a few employees who have greatly outlived their college years.”
Herscott also noted the Overture Center retained only $80 from the fraternity’s $1,500 deposit.
The Overture center website also says the Promenade Hall and Terrace together cost $1,300 to rent.
Herscott would not comment on the presence of alcohol at the event or if a social contract was filed with the Interfraternity Council.
The second complaint filed alleges the fraternity potentially held an illegal party Jan. 17. The party fell during the Greek rush period, when new members are recruited and gatherings involving alcohol are not allowed.
AEPi was put on social probation after an Oct. 16, 2009 Judicial Board hearing concerning illegal parties in May and September of 2009.
The May 2 party complaint involved an alleged Mifflin gathering that would have been illegal under Greek bylaws requiring fraternities to file a social contract to hold a party.
The Sept. 5 event concerned a party held at 625 Langdon St. that fell during the fall rush period. A Madison Police Department incident report says a member of the fraternity rented the rooftop and it clearly violated dry rush policies.
A complaint based on the Overture Center letter has also been filed with the Committee on Student Organizations, according to Associate Dean of Students Kevin Helmkamp.
Herscott said AEPi met with CSO to be briefed on the complaint, but a hearing has not yet taken place.
CSO cases are assigned to an investigative officer from the Offices of the Dean of Students, who then reports their findings to the committee. Investigations are usually concluded within 10 days.
Herscott said he is certain the public sees AEPi as a benefit to the community and the results of the Judicial Board and CSO proceedings will reflect that.
“We are more beneficial than detrimental to this university,” Herscott said. “I don’t think the Jewish community or the Greek community can survive without us and the 6,000 people we represent.”
The Judicial Board’s response could range from a dismissal of the complaints to suspension or expulsion.
CSO has the power to issue sanctions within the same range as the Judicial Board and limit the fraternity’s use of university property.
The Judicial Board suspended AEPi in 2007 after allegations of hazing, but the decision was later overturned by IFC.
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Once again the Badger Herald shows how much it loves to bash the Greek community. Over $2000 is raised for charity (not including the countless thousands of other dollars raised for charity throughout the greek community) for one party at the overture center and ONLY $80 out of $1500! is taken from the security deposit, but the fraternity gets in trouble for allegations such as not forming a line at the coat check and having some drunken behavior. THE OVERTURE CENTER knew they were renting out there space to a fraternity and were serving alcohol regardless if it was a social or philanthropy. The Badger Herald and other outside bashers of the greek community, you are a joke
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“THE OVERTURE CENTER knew they were renting out there space to a fraternity and were serving alcohol regardless if it was a social or philanthropy. The Badger Herald and other outside bashers of the greek community, you are a joke”
You can’t serve alcohol at a philanthropy. The entire point you dufus brute, is that AEPi was throwing a party, mascaraing as a philanthropy. That’s fucking low.
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ITS NOT MASCARADING IF YOU RAISE 2000 DOLLARS YOU IDIOT
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u mad
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This article is absolutely pointless. This is the same writer who humiliated Sigma Chi in a front page article about allegations that were eventually dropped. I think this writer forgot to tell how AEPi has raised thousands upon thousands for this university and community for years. AEPi is 3-time defending Humorology champions which raises thousands for kids afflicted with AIDS and people battling substance abuse. AEPi also held a philanthropy event to send books to children in Africa and also had an event for mentally challenged children (which made local TV news). A few ALLEGATIONS are not reason to publicly burn AEPi. Why write this and not all the great things AEPi does? I know, because this is biased writing!! For the Overture center to only retain $80 out of $1500 means that there was hardly any extra cleaning to be done, which is normal for big events. It’s unbelievable how AEPi raises $2000 for charity, a few people allegedly get too drunk (there were no allegations of underage drinking), and this flawed system makes them pay for it. AEPi will be vindicated, they are an asset to the Jewish community and the UW community as a whole.
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Point of fact: The Sigma Chi allegations have not yet been totally dropped. If you read the news, you would read that Jane Doe is suing them for such allegations.
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Signe Brewster: Greek Gossip Columnist
A giant, out of control party in madison is not news. I don’t care.
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I have just one thing to say:
To even infer that AEPi did something “wrong” here, shows the complete social breakdown of our society and our university. A group who donates $2010 to charity does not deserve to be publicly humiliated, especially before any legitimate verdict has been passed. I am ashamed to be a member of the University and a reader of the badger herald today. Now I see why nobody in this country can get along- because everybody is always out to blame somebody else. I am UTTERLY HUMILIATED that my tuition dollars go to spending money on defaming Philanthropic organizations. What a laugh… We need to prioritize our news. What, no article on the fact that fraternities, sororities, (like AEPi, EX, DG etc..) continuously strive to raise money for charity. They don’t do it because they have to, they do it because they can and they want to help out. Frankly, if it means to “illegally” (a term which in no way related to the actual LEGAL system) have Alcohol at a philanthropy that greatly multiplies donations and money spent at a philanthropy, maybe alcohol SHOULD be permitted, at all times. We need to understand that sacrifices are made for the greater good, AEPi obviously took a risk to do some good in the world and now they are being humiliated. Signe Brewster, the Badger Herald and ESPECIALLY the Dean of Students, should be ashamed of themselves. The greek community and the greater community will NEVER let them live this down…what a joke!
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“I am UTTERLY HUMILIATED that my tuition dollars go to spending money on defaming Philanthropic organizations”
No, you’re utterly humiliated because your fraternity just got caught being a bunch of douchebags.
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Not to mention that the Badger Herald doesn’t use tuition dollars, but is instead funding by advertising sales that are have continued to stay relatively strong through the recession due to reports like this, and the hilarious response they create from folks in the Greek system.
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Wait, do you mean advertising dollars? Or the alcohol and pizza the Badger Herald asks for as payment for advertisements in their paper? Sorry, I’m just confused what funding you’re talking about.
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i don’t even go to this school, but since when is it being a douchebag to have a charity event and people drink at them. benefits like that happen all the time here in the city
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maan this is a top story? who cares.
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I have just one thing to say:
To even infer that AEPi did something “wrong” here, shows the complete social breakdown of our society and our university. A group who donates $2010 to charity does not deserve to be publicly humiliated, especially before any legitimate verdict has been passed. I am ashamed to be a member of the University and a reader of the badger herald today. Now I see why nobody in this country can get along- because everybody is always out to blame somebody else. I am UTTERLY HUMILIATED that my tuition dollars go to spending money on defaming Philanthropic organizations. What a laugh… We need to prioritize our news. What, no article on the fact that fraternities, sororities, (like AEPi, EX, DG etc..) continuously strive to raise money for charity. They don’t do it because they have to, they do it because they can and they want to help out. Frankly, if it means to “illegally” (a term which in no way related to the actual LEGAL system) have Alcohol at a philanthropy that greatly multiplies donations and money spent at a philanthropy, maybe alcohol SHOULD be permitted, at all times. We need to understand that sacrifices are made for the greater good, AEPi obviously took a risk to do some good in the world and now they are being humiliated. Signe Brewster, the Badger Herald and ESPECIALLY the Dean of Students, should be ashamed of themselves. The greek community and the greater community will NEVER let them live this down…what a joke!
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Dear AEPi brothers writing the above two comments,
Everyone knows it was an illegal party and not a philanthropy. Enjoy getting fucked on probation for like - ever - assuming UW kicks you in the ass like you deserve.
xoxo!
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How do you call raising $2000+ not a philanthropy? That comment made no sense, and uptight regulators are harming the community by trying to screw any fraternity or sorority that raises that much money for good causes.
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Because you’re lying about raising the money. You know how much money it costs to rent the Overture Center? Fuck, I could throw a “philanthropy” event on Mifflin street and raise a few hundred bucks. $2,000 is a fraction of a large fraternity budget. Either way, no matter how much you raise, it doesn’t excuse the years of poor behavior from the fraternity. AEPi reflects poorly on the UW Greek Community. And it certainly speaks for very few Jews on this campus.
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maybe you SHOULD throw a “philanthropy” on Mifflin street and raise a few hundred bucks, people will have fun and the few hundred can go to charity. You know that it costs appx. $3 a year to provide sufficient vitamins for an undernourished person living in the third world? (leathers and foster). You raise 300 dollars by throwing a huge party on mifflin, only 300 dollars, you help 100 people for a year! AEPi raised 2010—that can provide vitam access to over 600 suffering people. That’s alot of people for a small price to pay…
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You should be ashamed of yourself. This has absolutely nothing to do with religion. Try thinking before you post something so ignorant to a public website.
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I have just one thing to say:
To even infer that AEPi did something “wrong” here, shows the complete social breakdown of our society and our university. A group who donates $2010 to charity does not deserve to be publicly humiliated, especially before any legitimate verdict has been passed. I am ashamed to be a member of the University and a reader of the badger herald today. Now I see why nobody in this country can get along- because everybody is always out to blame somebody else. I am UTTERLY HUMILIATED that my tuition dollars go to spending money on defaming Philanthropic organizations. What a laugh… We need to prioritize our news. What, no article on the fact that fraternities, sororities, (like AEPi, EX, DG etc..) continuously strive to raise money for charity. They don’t do it because they have to, they do it because they can and they want to help out. Frankly, if it means to “illegally” (a term which in no way related to the actual LEGAL system) have Alcohol at a philanthropy that greatly multiplies donations and money spent at a philanthropy, maybe alcohol SHOULD be permitted, at all times. We need to understand that sacrifices are made for the greater good, AEPi obviously took a risk to do some good in the world and now they are being humiliated. The author, the Badger Herald and ESPECIALLY the Dean of Students, should be ashamed of themselves. The greek community and the greater community will NEVER let them live this down…what a joke!
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let’s hear it for a triple post!
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honestly signe?? another front page article bashing a greek organization? can u write an article on anything else, or is this all you can think up?
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I’m pretty sure all the big papers like the New York Times, LA Times, Miami Herald and Chicago Sun-Times, all hire students out of college to take over their Greek Community Beat, so maybe she is just prepping for that? Good luck in the real world of journalism Signe.
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And I hear Fortune 500 companies all hire fraterity members to behave like drunken callous assholes. Good luck in the real world, AEPi members. And thanks for embarassing our entire university.
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just to name a few, check out this list:
U.S. Presidents James Abram Garfield - Delta Upsilon Chester A. Arthur - Psi Upsilon William Howard Taft - Psi Upsilon Woodrow Wilson - Phi Kappa Psi Calvin Coolidge - Phi Gamma Delta Harry S. Truman - Alpha Delta Gamma John F. Kennedy - Phi Kappa Theta Ronald Reagen - Tau Kappa Epsilon George H. W. Bush - Delta Kappa Epsilon Bill Clinton - Alpha Phi Omega Harry S. Truman - Alpha Delta Gamma
U.S. Vice Presidents Charles W. Fairbanks - Phi Gamma Delta Thomas Riley Marshall - Phi Gamma Delta Charles Evans Hughes - Delta Upsilon Charles G. Dawes - Delta Upsilon Nelson Rockefeller - Psi Upsilon Alben Barkley - Delta Tau Delta Henry Wallace - Delta Tau Delta Dan Quayle - Delta Kappa Epsilon Rutherford B. Hayes - DKE, Delta Chi chapter Theodore Roosevelt - DKE, Alpha chapter Gerald R, Ford - DKE, Omicron chapter
interesting how many presidents were in fraternities isnt it…
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come on can we please give this tired angle a rest? any time frats get bashed there is always some tool ready and willing to recite the propaganda that was used to sucker them in, and the brahs before them, and so on….”look at all the CEO’s and presidents who were in frats!”…..hilarious…… I could just as easily point to scumbags who were in frats (Jeffery Skilling, the fraudulent crooked CEO that brought down Enron and ripped off employees and the public for hundreds of millions of dollars) or how about Ken Lay? (Enron) The list goes on and on but the point is that to imply that joining a frat will have any correlation with your success is like saying that joining a frat will have some correlation with you being a crooked scumbag. Both are BS. But its good to see that the frat hype machine is alive and well, with millions of bros being recruited every year with the famous CEO line
additionally, this story has nothing to do with CEO’s and everything to do with vile, embarrassing behavior in public. And damn, that girl was getting dick in the OVERTURE CENTER BATHROOM? What a skank!
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dude its a fraternity. they’re getting in trouble for throwing a party. a party! this is front page news? “FRATERNITY GETS IN TROUBLE FOR THROWING A PARTY” —— Duh! I mean, it happens 20 times year.
Awesome Badger Herald. Good coverage, this sure is a headliner.
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dude its a fraternity. they’re getting in trouble for throwing a party. a party! this is front page news? “FRATERNITY GETS IN TROUBLE FOR THROWING A PARTY” —— Duh! I mean, it happens 20 times year.
Awesome Badger Herald. Good coverage, this sure is a headliner.
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Whoop dee do, a fraternity again is alleged of breaking the rules for parties, this happens all the time, we’re in college people, no one else cares or wants to know, how is this a top story?
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It is $1300 simply to rent the space. On top of that, you are required to have security for an hour before and an hour after the event. My fraternity was quoted at $1375 for security alone for a formal at the overture center and we are smaller than AEPi. For fraternity events, they require 2 off duty Madison Police, plus 2 Overture Center provided security guards. In addition to that, catering charges a $400 set up fee for an event with 101-200 guests. They also charge $25/hour/bartender with a minimum 3 hour charge and the number of bartenders determined by the Overture center. Hors d’ouevres are $125-$375/plate that serves 50. Plated dinners start at $20/person and go up from there. There is an 18% gratuity charge on just about everything. Their security deposit alone was $1500. There is no way they only paid for room rental. The article gives the impression that the event cost only $1300 to host, when it was much much more. The reason why the cost of the event is so important is because it goes to the heart of the question of whether or not this was a philanthropy or a social event. A philanthropy event does not cost more than is raised.
So, good job, AEPi. U guys spend say 8 grand on the night, $2,000 of which goes to charity and $6,000 of which went to charity.
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wow IP hash: a7bd22f3… get a life. you just made 6 comments on a story that most likely has absolutely nothing to do with you. Sorry that you have such beef with the greek system, but seriously no one cares what you have to say. stop coming back to this link to check up on everyone’s comments and give your undesired input.
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IF you haven’t realized by now IP hash: 95a94909 you are also anonymous and in my opinion you are very sick mentally to openly bash on students who have done a good deed, regardless of their religious beliefs. Also, to the no lifers, IP hash: 95a94909 and IP hash: a7bd22f3 specifically, Im sorry that you are still bitter about not getting into a fraternity or sorority, but its time for you to grow up and get over it. Its not right that you are so immature and selfish that you continue to twist the truth and exaggerate the mistakes made in an attempt for a good deed. Personally, after reading all of these comments, it baffles me on how ignorant and selfish some individuals can be.
It seems that the badger herald is getting so defensive about this because this is not the first time they have been openly criticized for publishing hate/personal articles thats sole purpose is not for spreading the news but rather ruining peoples lives. You consistently call out the greek life in the shout out columns. Also, I would like to know the last time the badger herald did some sort of good deed, donation, or charitable event?
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IF you haven’t realized by now IP hash: 95a94909 you are also anonymous and in my opinion you are very sick mentally to openly bash on students who have done a good deed, regardless of their religious beliefs. Also, to the no lifers, IP hash: 95a94909 and IP hash: a7bd22f3 specifically, Im sorry that you are still bitter about not getting into a fraternity or sorority, but its time for you to grow up and get over it. Its not right that you are so immature and selfish that you continue to twist the truth and exaggerate the mistakes made in an attempt for a good deed. Personally, after reading all of these comments, it baffles me on how ignorant and selfish some individuals can be.
It seems that the badger herald is getting so defensive about this because this is not the first time they have been openly criticized for publishing hate/personal articles thats sole purpose is not for spreading the news but rather ruining peoples lives. You consistently call out the greek life in the shout out columns. Also, I would like to know the last time the badger herald did some sort of good deed, donation, or charitable event?
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It is $1300 simply to rent the space. On top of that, you are required to have security for an hour before and an hour after the event. My fraternity was quoted at $1375 for security alone for a formal at the overture center and we are smaller than AEPi. For fraternity events, they require 2 off duty Madison Police, plus 2 Overture Center provided security guards. In addition to that, catering charges a $400 set up fee for an event with 101-200 guests. They also charge $25/hour/bartender with a minimum 3 hour charge and the number of bartenders determined by the Overture center. Hors d’ouevres are $125-$375/plate that serves 50. Plated dinners start at $20/person. There is an 18% gratuity charge on just about everything. Their security deposit alone was $1500. There is no way they only paid for room rental. The article gives the impression that the event cost only $1300 to host, when it was much much more. The reason why the cost of the event is so important is because it goes to the heart of the question of whether or not this was a philanthropy or a social event. A philanthropy event does not cost more than is raised.
So good job, AEPi. You guys spent 8 grand on the night, $2,000 of which went to charity and $6,000 of which went to a party. This was no philanthropy. This was AEPi pretending to have a philanthropy so they could have a party while on social probation. The fact that they are using raising money for charity to cover their asses is despicable. They knew what they were doing was wrong and they were just trying to cover for it.
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I would argue that the scholars who can’t hold their liquor, were rude to people who dared to ask them to be respectful as well as other members of the community and then had sex in a men’s bathroom stall (classy!) are responsible for humiliating themselves. Raising money for charity doesn’t give you permission to be an ass and the age of the person calling you to account for your actions has no relevance here. That you think you can act this improperly with impunity is an indication of how you’ve been raised. You have helped stain the organizations to which you most strongly associate yourselves (the university and your fraternity). As far as I’m concerned, the only consequence that makes sense here is a very public humiliation. Name names. And let’s hope every law school to which Jeff Herscott applies finds this story in a Google search and takes into account his brilliantly-crafted quote.
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Don’t attack individuals, you have absolutely no right to do so. Think before you say things like that.
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You’re right, because personal attacks on Signe Brewster are just fine.
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You’re lucky you put anonymous you damn coward, you have no right to bash anyone and make this a personal thing. Get a life.
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Completely unnecessary…we are all just trying to do the best we can for the organizations we represent. Too personal, uncalled for…shameful.
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Jeff Herscott: This is your “best”? I believe it: The president of an organization that apparently has zero common sense and even less respect for the community gives an overblown, self-obsessed defense of idiotic behavior instead of simply owning mistakes and apologizing.
Let’s clear something up: You and your pals acted like clowns in what is probably the highest profile public facility in Madison after the capitol building. People take their families to the Overture to experience art and you subjected them to an episode of the “Jersey Shore.” People you don’t even know are ashamed of your behavior and likely further ashamed of your attempts to justify it. While your frat house is the ideal venue for blatantly profane jackassery, public arts venues are not. The University and city expects that when you rent out a public space for your functions, you act like adults.
The joke here is that you don’t seem to understand that your stunts have consequences. When you puke in the sink at Brats, nobody writes a letter to the Dean or runs a story in the paper. And now thanks to your ill-conceived public statements (which will follow you around), people get to be upset about not just the original issue, but your ignorance of how your behavior affects others.
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Well said.
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Who are these kids that are bashing AEpi for having an “illegal” party? Do you guys go to college? Do you have friends? Who cares if this was a legal or non-legal (whatever that means) party.. ITS COLLEGE. GET A F ING LIFE. AND STOP BEING ANONYMOUS if you have such high morals and “worldly” opinions.
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Bravo, Anonymous, standing up against those cowardly anonymous commentators!
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another incident in the greek system but this seems to be like the smallest of them all
a party to raise money for a worthy cause….with a couple of drunk college kids
it happens….at least everyone was safe and the event turned out a success
the greek system definitely needs some reform, but honestly it seems that the non-greeks party harder and a small thing like this shouldnt be headline news for the badger herald
where are all the stories of parties on broom street spring street lathrop and all over that go wrong and have cops show up, and girls passing out
the university needs change and that starts by electing scott walker as governor of wisconsin…his vision experience and morals will help lead wisconsin in a new direction
gotta say seems like they are trying to make a small issue a huge one just to get her name out
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Hello, I would like to donate $2000 to B�nai B�rith International so that I, too, may have sex in the Overture men’s room with my special lady. Should I send the check to AEPi or Overture? Or directly to B�nai B�rith with “toilet luvin’” in the memo?
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Scott Walker is not going to help this situation haha that is a joke. Let’s let Scott Walker attempt to do any type of work at all in Milwaukee before we involve him in unimportant Greek issues in Madison, shall we? AEPi will deal with this on their own, I hope the Badger Herald actually decides to cover a story that’s worth reading sometime soon.
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agreed scott walker might not help, but this story is unimportant
lets move on people to bigger and better issues like how high tuition is on campus??
why isnt it mandatory for everybody to live in the public dorms (shouldnt they be expanded to accommodate everybody?)?
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dude enough with scott walker
that is ridiculous
this issue needs to be put to rest and move on to bigger and better issues
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Wow, that’s a nasty comment.
—A Gentile
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Wow, this sounds like a great party!
Frankly, the badger herald should continue coverage of the craziest parties in town in a column dedicated to returning UW to #1 party school status.
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The $2000 that were raised as a result of this event is a testament to the breath of the educational experience offered by the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Philanthropy is a lifelong endeavor, not easily understood or actively undertaken by America’s youth. The fact that the Dean of Students, Lori Berquam, has created an atmosphere were students are encouraged to give to charitable organizations is a testament to what she has accomplished since taking over.
The University of Madison and their students congratulate AEPi on their willingness to actively participate in improving the world that they will some day be a part of.
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I can’t believe all of the Greek system apologists who think raising a little money allows you to act like total douchebags. I think this is totally newsworthy since there were complaints filed and the matter is before the Greek Judicial Board. I am ashamed to be a student at a University where such awful behavior is so vehemently defended.
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Head of IAC: But AEPI’s already on probation. Lori Berquam: They are? Well, as of this moment, they’re on DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION
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What a joke. Thanks frat boys.
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I would like to start by saying that the actions, however shameful they may have been, on the night of Dec 4th at the Overture Center were in no way unique to AEPi or even the University of Wisconsin-Madison. If you mix college aged students with music, members of the opposite sex and food, there will usually be alcohol. In this world, regardless of age, many of us become different people when we drink and it is not always excusable, but it is reality. The brothers of AEPi should be responsible for their actions but the public should understand that it is not reflective of AEPi as an organization or our university as these unfortunate actions are commonplace at colleges and later in life when alcohol is introduced into the mix. The $2010 is not to excuse people acting like “douchebags”- it was an act of good faith. People enjoyed themselves and money was donated. I would like to add that according to authors Leathers & Foster, who wrote a textbook used for AAE 350, it takes $3 a year to supply people with sufficient vitamins and minerals to prevent “wasting” and other conditions caused by malnutrition and starvation. Now, this money was sent to Bnai Brith who sent it to Haiti relief however I want to make a point- $2010 dollars was donated- at the rate of $3 a person, 670 starving people can avoid malnutrition and will live to see tomorrow. I am not trying to excuse any of the actions but think with both your hearts and your minds, the outcome of this event was a brilliant success. There are people, out there, benefitting from the fact that this event took place and AEPi should NOT regret holding the event. As for the comments on the fact that no alcohol should be at philanthropies, I again implore you to think with your hearts and your brains- be thinkers, we are all here to ask questions of ourselves and the societies we are socialized in to- wouldn’t it make sense to have a party on mifflin to raise money for charity (as the post up above jokes about) or for those against Greek Life, you are notorious for wild kegger house parties- what if you charged 6 dollars a cup- 5 for the beer, 1 for a charity- it would not dissuade people from attending. Sure, some might call you out for having a philanthropical event to disguise a “party” but in the end, those people are proven inflexible and heartless because there are suffering people, worldwide, that can EASILY benefit from us. We live in a drinking society, Madison is one of the cities with the highest beer consumption in the country. Instead of fighting the society, we should embrace it and learn to work with it for the betterment of humankind. We should not separate ourselves into Greek and Non-Greek with everybody calling eachother out on who is right, who is a douchebag, who is a “Greek-basher” because in the end, in each of our social circles, we have the capacity to do good in our world. That is way AEPi stepped up and did the right thing. You may not agree with it but think, guests enjoyed themselves, $2010 was raised for charity- and it can happen again! AEPi recognized that in their status of social probation, they could only hold philanthropies- so they did. If the community really feels the need to blame AEPi for doing the best they can for the greater good, it only shows the breakdown of fellowship among us as humans, americans and citizens of the same University community. We need to back away from the process of scapegoatting and we must recognize that there are those groups, like AEPi, who take risks for the benefit of the greater good, classical republicanism at its best, and unfortunately, there will always be dissenters like the Badger Herald and its supporters and advocates. That is life, however, and I, personally, embrace it- despite the nasty things some may say about me and the organization as a whole. AEPi brothers are good people, they work hard, they enjoy themselves and they, like all of you are, a benefit to our community. Please, cut them some slack, understand that more people were helped in this situation than hurt- AEPi is, and proved to be, much more beneficial than detrimental to the community. This is not some kind of cover to act irresponsibly and AEPi did not raise “a little money” to excuse themselves. They did this out of our struggling world’s best interest and they, like all of you MUST, will continue to do so because as the upper middle and upper class, privileged members of an impoverished world, we are in the position to do some good. We are in the position to take basic human rights into our own hands- we can provide those less fortunate with the necessary means to survive. So, next time you would like to bash AEPi, remember, they did what they did as an act of good will and people did benefit. Maybe next time you have a philanthropy or fundraising event, you will consider taking the necessary steps to ensure that the most people possible benefit from your event.
Thank you for your time….
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Obvious Nazi is obvious. Hey, we can see it’s clearly the same person.
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Sorry for partying.
In all reality, let’s see the University/Badger Herald go after every unregistered house party by non-Greeks. There has to be a dozen every weekend but we never read about those in the paper.
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I have a lot of Jewish friends on campus, and I have no idea how they would feel welcome here. Every semester it seems like the Badger Herald, IFC, and the school administration finds a new and humiliating way to harass the Jewish students. There’s the term “coastie” which everyone knows is code for “jew”, harassment of their fraternities, harassment of their dorms… and its just business-as-usual for the Badger Herald to publish another scandal-mongering headline without any facts.
No arrests were made. No complaints were filed with the police. There is no evidence of any wrongdoing.
Its scary that this school and the Badger Herald both support this sort of casual anti-semetism.
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lmao. right. obviously this is jew bashing. idiots. you guys weren’t supposed to have a party..but did anyway. pretty straight forward to me.
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I wanna say publicly that Jeff Herscott came into this situation and now holds this burden on his shoulders. I feel for him and his excutive board especially because they are new this semester and werent even involved with tthe planning of this event- just the backfire. The personal attacks at Jeff are unfair, give the kid a break- he was elected to be president to defend his brothers in times of crisis- they expect him to say what he needs to defend him…
Its not appropriate to call him out.
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how did this become an issue of religion and race
i thought the univeristy of wisconsin was a more civil and advanced university
evidently not
prejudice still rides high on campus and it needs to end
this is america people
lets grow up
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The boys of AEPI are trying to flood the system with their propaganda. They tried to fool J-Board, they’re trying to fool us here at the Badger Herald site, and they will forever be trying to fool the world. Quit the game boys, just cause your mom says you’re perfect doesn’t make it true.
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I would like to address this issue as an Executive Board Member of AEPi. First of all, the anti-semitic comments are absolutely disgusting, and if any of you saying this garbage had any courage you would reveal yourselves instead saying it anonymously. The fact is people who criticize the behavior that went on may have their reasons, but many of you are hypocrites, and that needs no explanation. We know who did what at this philanthropy event (and yes it was a philanthropy event no matter who tries to refute that) but I assure the community that it was a very small fraction of the AEPi brotherhood. The overture center would have never let a philanthropy event be held there if there was no alcohol (that is where they make their money), so in fact we did not even have a choice. If 21+ people wish to drink, that is their decision. There are no claims of underage drinking, and no physical damage done to the Overture center. If any of these allegations happen to be true, it is regrettable and inappropriate and in no way does AEPi condone any of it. But realistically, breaking a social probation because of the presence of alcohol for 21+ people at an event that gave over $2000 to Haiti does not warrant front page news or any of these ridiculous comments. I suggest you all stop this, it is a waste of time to attack people on a personal level or sink to anti-semitism and racism. Jeff Herscott was handed this issue upon his election and has dealt with it with dignity and class, and for someone to say the things that were said about him is wrong. He is an honest person and is trying to make all of this right, and the people that know him best will testify to that. If any of you want to be taken seriously, I urge you to not speak like a bigot or a “greek-supporter or greek-hater” and write like an intelligent college student.
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You didn’t have a CHOICE? ARE YOU SERIOUS? It’s called NOT HAVING A PARTY THERE!!!! On what planet do you live?
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I totally agree. There was no physical damage to the Overture Center. Well, unless you count that jizz-stain on the bathroom wall after an AEPi fucked his dirty whore girlfriend. ZING!
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You all know nothing, you are all ignorant, you all disgust me. I can’t stand to follow these posts any longer on what people are saying about my fraternity. first of all:
1) To those taking shots at Herscott: You all clearly know nothing about him based on what has been said. Stop taking shots at a bright young individual for leading a group he believes in.
2) To those taking shots at AEPI: Whatever happens to the AEPI from this point on is between IFC, J-board, and the house. All of your posts, articles, and other garbage you have to say means nothing to anyone, do us all a favor and keep it to yourself.
3)(THE WORST OF ALL) To those taking shots at Judaism: You are the lowest living form of humans on the planet. You have 0 understanding for anyone else in this world and i pity you. I am a member of said fraternity who also IS NOT JEWISH, I love every damn member of this house beyond what their religious beliefs are and those who choose to do otherwise are a disgrace to the UW community and beyond.
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To whoever wrote at 6:10PM, how dare you tell Jewish people to act modest so that “we don’t relive the past.” Are you out of your mind? Basically you are making this statement on the few hundred people who you can visibly recognize as a “Jew” from the way they dress. I hate to tell you this Mr. Ignorant but you are being completely ridiculous. There are many more Jews at UW-Madison who don’t dress like “coasties” as they are referred to around campus. Being a Jew has absolutely nothing to do with the way you dress, and even if it were, how could you (assuming you have a rational mind) say that this is cause for another Holocaust. That was one of the worst things to happen in the history of man, and because you don’t like the way people dress, you are saying it should happen again. Instead of ripping on Jews, why don’t you look at this from a non-anti-Semitic viewpoint. Sure, this was a fraternal event at the Overture Center, and sure, there was alcohol served. But if this fraternity caused so much damage (the way the author portrayed it), then why was only $80 taken out of the security deposit? And why did AEPi donate over $2000 to a great (and non-Jewish) cause. The facts don’t add up. The positives greatly outweighed the negatives and I think all of you commenting on this poorly need to not use this as an excuse to be anti-Semitic, and ask yourself how much you have donated to charitable causes.
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Well first of all,
the greek community as a whole, is filled a bunch of LUNATICS who are selfish and eat dongs for breakfast and dinner. The AEPI fraternity has many of these said dong eaters, and are straight up filth.
Thank you,
JWB OUT!
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talk about charity? Coming from the greediest people on campus…
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thats really messed up
what happened to a more tolerant world?
people like you are why are world isnt moving forward faster
you are the weights on our legs and are trying to bring us down
this campus is smarter and better than you and the university of wisconsin madisonw ill be stronger
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For the person that left the comment:
“AEPi, just wait until the girl I know down the hall reports even more allegations. You�re so fucking fucked it�s unreal. You�re the next SAE.”
While you probably have never hosted a party, been to a party, and most likely don’t have enough friends to fill your own bedroom, let me be brief and try to clarify exactly what you are freaking out about.
Alpha Epsilon Pi obviously held this philanthropy event with the intention that it would be a fun event that that they were allowed to organize only because they were raising thousands for a charity. They tried hard to organize a legal, safe, of-age event where people could enjoy a few cocktails for a good cause. No one in Alpha Epsilon Pi is a bad person or had cruel intentions, and all they were trying to do is enjoy their college experience to the fullest while also giving back to the community.
Sure, AEPI may have slightly misbehaved at the Overture Center, and not everything went as planned but the article states very clear that only $80 of the $1500 dollars were needed for additional cleaning. That’s less than 6% of the entire deposit. Obviously the place was not in that bad of shape afterwards. While there still were members of the fraternity that behaved in ways which were not appropriate, it is extremely difficult to monitor 100+ different people’s actions throughout the night. Because everyone was in college, the Overture Center should not expect an ordinary cocktail party that our parents might have. This is the University of Wisconsin, after all. We work hard so that we can play hard on the weekends and that is one of the best aspects of our University. It helps create well-rounded students and prepares us for the the future. If you are looking for a school that has quiet, polite, black tie events every weekend where the drinks are cut off after 2, then maybe you should have considered a different school.
The Badger Herald used to save the front page for real articles such as ones describing thousands of students being tear-gassed on halloween… it seems that now all it takes to make the cover page is a broken wine bottle and two students banging in the bathroom at a greek philanthropy event. Cheers.
So, once again, to whoever said:
“AEPi, just wait until the girl I know down the hall reports even more allegations. You�re so fucking fucked it�s unreal. You�re the next SAE.”
Go join a Fraternity or Sorority and learn more about life. Who knows, you may even make some friends, but I highly doubt it.
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Some people really have no regard for other people, their freedoms, their rights, and their privacy. The ant-semetism on this post is disgusting. Its rather apparent that there are still some people who are have been taught to hate for no reason. Read a book.
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You have got to be the most ignorant person I have had the pleasure or not meeting. I cannot believe you, or anyone for that matter, would stoop that low to actually quote something from the holocaust.
It sickens me that you have the audacity to write that and think highly of your post. There is no point in talking negatively about you further because all it is doing it fueling your evil and twisted mind. All I hope is that you quit being blinded by your ignorance and realize how horrible that comment was.
You do not need to express your anger towards people if you do not know anything. You do not understand this fraternity, what it stands for and how its members are. Step off.
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Tool
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I really hope you understand what you just said, because I never will
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IF YOU AINT HERE TO PARTY, GET THE FUCK OUT THE CLUB!!!!!!!!
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AEPi seems like a decent organization that made some dumb mistakes. Did anyone get hurt? No. At the end of the day, this university needs its Greek Life. If I’m not mistaken, AEPI is the biggest fraternity on this campus and did donate $2000. If they just wanted to have a party, why didn’t they do it at some brothers apartment? Or do a weekend in Chicago? Some people got out of hand yes, but you have a bunch of college kids on a Friday/Sat night (not sure which one). Of course people will get out of hand. At the end of the day, there is only so much Herscott could do. People get out of hand and go nuts and sometimes you can’t stop them. This organization should be blamed, but to kick them off campus would leave a void. They have won humurology for 3 years in a row, maintaned the largest house, held top 5 gpa in greek life, and donate a significant amount of money. Herscott seems like he has gotten his shit together and the house I bet turns around. Compared to most of the other houses this doesn’t seem so bad. Give them a break. Suspension? Yes. Kick them off? No way. This frat has good people and they are deserving of another choice. Herscott will turn it around. I’d put my money there.
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AEPI SUCKS!!! get a life guys no respect for anything or anybody you sicken me with your behavior
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The fact that people with no information beyond this article are making judgements about the character of this fraternity and its executives is ridiculous. Furthermore, the jewish religion literally plays absolutely no role in the situation at hand. The fact that this situation’s reflection on judaism is even a topic of discussion is just repulsive. These comments contain a bunch of ranting and raving from people who know nothing about the situation. Feel how you want about the article, but don’t go on making assumptions and allegations about the brothers, executives, or the fraternity as a whole. Its out of pure ignorance and i really don’t see any other purpose for it other than to cut other people down. Let this be an issue between j-board and the brothers of AEPi because they are the only people who know the facts and understand the situation.
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Jeff Hirscott wasn’t even president when AEPi held this event, so please leave the poor kid alone, he’s doing a great job and is a great kid
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Whoever is IP hash: 050d6c45 shut up
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AEPi is notoriously known as a top contributor to charities in the Greek scene not only at University of Wisconsin, but also throughout the whole Country. For most of you who bad mouthed Jeff Herscott and AEPi, what have you done? How much have donated? Maybe some of these kids made some mistakes at the Overture Center, but at least when they make mistakes they also donate some money. Every Greek organization with exception to a few would probably have done the same thing, except they probably would not have raised as much money. People who are not a part of Greek Life obviously hate it because they have not taken the time to get past social stigmas and actually meet the kids. Not one human being can meet Jeff Herscott and tell me something negative about him. Same things apply with Norman Glazer. I know both of these kids and they are great people and contributors to the University. There are larger issues out there to worry about. People fornicate on State Street and at other venues, but when it happens and Jewish people and a fraternity involved people start getting angry? Something does not make sense. If you want to bad mouth Jewish people go to Martinsville, Indiana and join a Cult, because no one has the time for that stuff anymore. Grow up Grand Torino.
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Who cares about this fraternity junk, dont you people know that a tornado just hit haytti? maybe that should be on the front page so people will donate donations
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AEPI members are the only ones allowed to comment. They broke the rules. The truth will come out.
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would like to start by saying that the actions, however shameful they may have been, on the night of Dec 4th at the Overture Center were in no way unique to AEPi or even the University of Wisconsin-Madison. If you mix college aged students with music, members of the opposite sex and food, there will usually be alcohol. In this world, regardless of age, many of us become different people when we drink and it is not always excusable, but it is reality. The brothers of AEPi should be responsible for their actions but the public should understand that it is not reflective of AEPi as an organization or our university as these unfortunate actions are commonplace at colleges and later in life when alcohol is introduced into the mix. The $2010 is not to excuse people acting like �douchebags�- it was an act of good faith. People enjoyed themselves and money was donated. I would like to add that according to authors Leathers & Foster, who wrote a textbook used for AAE 350, it takes $3 a year to supply people with sufficient vitamins and minerals to prevent �wasting� and other conditions caused by malnutrition and starvation. Now, this money was sent to Bnai Brith who sent it to Haiti relief however I want to make a point- $2010 dollars was donated- at the rate of $3 a person, 670 starving people can avoid malnutrition and will live to see tomorrow. I am not trying to excuse any of the actions but think with both your hearts and your minds, the outcome of this event was a brilliant success. There are people, out there, benefitting from the fact that this event took place and AEPi should NOT regret holding the event. As for the comments on the fact that no alcohol should be at philanthropies, I again implore you to think with your hearts and your brains- be thinkers, we are all here to ask questions of ourselves and the societies we are socialized in to- wouldn�t it make sense to have a party on mifflin to raise money for charity (as the post up above jokes about) or for those against Greek Life, you are notorious for wild kegger house parties- what if you charged 6 dollars a cup- 5 for the beer, 1 for a charity- it would not dissuade people from attending. Sure, some might call you out for having a philanthropical event to disguise a �party� but in the end, those people are proven inflexible and heartless because there are suffering people, worldwide, that can EASILY benefit from us. We live in a drinking society, Madison is one of the cities with the highest beer consumption in the country. Instead of fighting the society, we should embrace it and learn to work with it for the betterment of humankind. We should not separate ourselves into Greek and Non-Greek with everybody calling eachother out on who is right, who is a douchebag, who is a �Greek-basher� because in the end, in each of our social circles, we have the capacity to do good in our world. That is way AEPi stepped up and did the right thing. You may not agree with it but think, guests enjoyed themselves, $2010 was raised for charity- and it can happen again! AEPi recognized that in their status of social probation, they could only hold philanthropies- so they did. If the community really feels the need to blame AEPi for doing the best they can for the greater good, it only shows the breakdown of fellowship among us as humans, americans and citizens of the same University community. We need to back away from the process of scapegoatting and we must recognize that there are those groups, like AEPi, who take risks for the benefit of the greater good, classical republicanism at its best, and unfortunately, there will always be dissenters like the Badger Herald and its supporters and advocates. That is life, however, and I, personally, embrace it- despite the nasty things some may say about me and the organization as a whole. AEPi brothers are good people, they work hard, they enjoy themselves and they, like all of you are, a benefit to our community. Please, cut them some slack, understand that more people were helped in this situation than hurt- AEPi is, and proved to be, much more beneficial than detrimental to the community. This is not some kind of cover to act irresponsibly and AEPi did not raise �a little money� to excuse themselves. They did this out of our struggling world�s best interest and they, like all of you MUST, will continue to do so because as the upper middle and upper class, privileged members of an impoverished world, we are in the position to do some good. We are in the position to take basic human rights into our own hands- we can provide those less fortunate with the necessary means to survive. So, next time you would like to bash AEPi, remember, they did what they did as an act of good will and people did benefit. Maybe next time you have a philanthropy or fundraising event, you will consider taking the necessary steps to ensure that the most people possible benefit from your event.
Thank you for your time�.
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how is this a front page article…its a party!! parties happen in every establishment across this campus, including the dorms, and no one gives a crap abput those, so why is it that frats are examined so much harder? should an article be written because last year multiple people i now had sex in dorm bathrooms, or because multiple people i know threw up in the elevators, or because multiple people i know destroyed things in the dorms? NO!!!!!! we are in college people, yes it is immature behavior, but honestly it all comes with the territory. you are only given the opportunity to be as irresponsible and crazy as you can for 4 years of your life, and yet people go on this message board and rip apart aepi because they had a party and got a little rowdy. you cannot honestly tell me that you have never been lewd in public or done something that you regret in the morning and then come on here and bash a frat for having a party. The anti fraternity stance taken by the university as well as the Badger herald is truly sickening…frats and sororities do more good than bad on campus. Think about it, everyone on this campus parties, but how many times have you been to a house party where thousands of dollars are donated to charity. The greek system is not hurting this university, it is the division between greeks and non greeks that is, and the first action that needs to be taken is for groups such as the badger herald and their “yellow journalism” to step back and report on events that really affect the student body as a whole.
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As a member of the greek system myself, I’m completely embarrassed. Quotes like “I don’t think the Jewish community or the Greek community can survive without us” really do not speak well of AEPi as an organization, regardless of whether the allegations have merit or not. Basically, even if you assume all the allegations are exaggerated/baseless and that people who donate money to charity are immune from moral scrutiny, the members of AEPi still selfishly tarnished the reputations of UW fraternities as a group by giving the Overture staff reason to write what they did in that letter. Have a little humility and self respect next time guys.
Also, I have met Jeff and several other members of AEPi. I think they’re all great, well-meaning, nice guys, but that still doesn’t make it okay for them to bring this kind of scrutiny on the rest of UW greek life by getting out of control in a respected Madison venue.
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people, its a frat. all frats party..these kids just obviously know how to do it better than others…
sex in the bathroom? that’s a story i’d like to have myself..bravo son
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1)AEPi was already on social probation because of a massive party where there was underage drinking and the police were called. They got a slap on the wrist (social probation) and were sent a letter from J-board that basically said we are watching you and don’t mess up or we will probably suspend you.
2)It doesn’t count as a philanthropy under Greek System rules if there is alcohol present. It counts as a social event. Alcohol is not allowed at philanthropies. It is curious that AEPi is only calling for this rule to be changed after they appear to be getting in trouble for it. If you want it changed, go to IFC and pass the change.
3)The overture center does allow you to have an event there without alcohol. You actually have to pay extra for bartenders to have alcohol at your event.
4)Knowing the above, they decided to have a massive event at the overture center with alcohol. Even if nothing bad had happened at this party, they still would have been violating their punishment and still would be in front of J-board.
5) This was not a philanthropy. The event was held December 4. It cost about $6,000 to throw according to receipts I have seen. The letter was sent December 18. A couple weeks ago, they realized they were going to be headed to J-board for this, so they scrambled, threw together a $2,000 donation from their rainy day and pleas to members to make it look like a philanthropy. There is no evidence whatsoever that the money was raised that night. But, even if you buy the argument that the money was raised that night, they still spent $8,000, 75% of which went towards throwing the event. Whether or not they had the foresight to think of this ahead of time, its obvious that they are trying to use “philanthropy” to cover their asses for throwing an epic formal while they were on probation. No true philanthropy costs triple the amount of money that was raised for charity.
6)The comparison to off campus parties is just ridiculous. Fraternities are an organized group that hold themselves to a set of rules. When those rules are violated, punishments are handed out. If a fraternity member wants to participate in off campus house parties, they can do that too and no Greek rules need to be followed. But, if the fraternity is throwing an event, they have committed themselves to following a set of rules and are expected to do so.
7)If the J-board is smart, all of the above will be realized and AEPi will be suspended. I would be shocked if they are vindicated.
8)If AEPi doesn’t like any of the above, they are welcome to leave the Interfraternity Council. Their presence will not be missed. Jews, philanthropy, and all other things good that AEPi purports to represent will still be a part of the Greek system.
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Why would anyone in their right mind pay IFC to regulate them? You can make the argument that IFC “protects” fraternities from the cops, but in many situations that does not happen and in the end it’s a waste of money. IFC isn’t worth it. Never has been, never will be.
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does nobody realize that this was journalism and some of the stupid things jeff “said” could have been taken completely out of context?
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This is funny.
AEPi broke some IFC rules, they’ll go on social probation for awhile. Life goes on.
Beyond that, they’ll need to treat venues with better respect to be invited back, and they should probably revamp their risk management policy to avoid future incidents. That’s it.
This is a non-story, but it shouldn’t surprise anyone that the Herald is covering it. The easiest way to rile up a bunch of college kids is to cover fraternities getting into trouble, because as a whole students on both sides of the greek/anti-greek debate are very opinionated and narrow minded. It’s vicious, but sadly it’s how the Badger Herald chooses to operate.
Gentlemen of AEPi, the best thing to do is take the high road. You messed up, focus on how you will improve in the future and don’t give any of these naysayers the time of day.
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I am curious. Does anyone know the GPA for AEPi? Are they a bunch of dumb kids doing dumb things or a bunch of bright kids letting loose on the weekend?
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AEPi has ranked in the top 5 GPAs among fraternities in the past 6 years. Averaging above a 3.3.
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Top 5 GPA in the Greek System
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They consistently have a top 5 GPA on campus, so I would say the latter. It seems like these are bright kids. Unfortunately a few of them behaved irresponsibly and it seems like the whole group is now unfairly under scrutiny.
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They have had one of the highest GPA’s on Campus for 10 consecutive academic years.
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“Who cares about this fraternity junk, dont you people know that a tornado just hit haytti? maybe that should be on the front page so people will donate donations”
Can we please just take a break from arguing and read this? I really hope he does not go to school here
A tornado hit haytti everyone, we have bigger things to worry about lmao
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So much of this thread is a parade of incompetence, but that really does take the cake.
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lol
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These same events and actions happen with groups, specifically Registered Student Organizations all the time. The difference is that IFC holds Greek orgs to a higher standard. Therefore “violations” and “social probation” occurs. Frankly I think the rules are too strict and enforced too broadly. RSOs get away with the same behavior all the time and it is NEVER reported. I know of many RSOs that use organization money to pay for kegs and hold house parties for their members that include underage members - is that front page news? NO - but if that group was a fraternity it would be along with social probation and other allegations.
Greek organizations are held to a higher standard, but that doesn’t make their actions egregious or newsworthy. If a Catholic organization’s governing body suspended them for eating food within 30 minutes of taking communion would that be newsworthy just because they were being “investigated” for violating rules?
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The fact of the matter is is that while AEPi was honorable in producing a philanthropy that raised a wonderful amount of money, some rules were broken. While we can acknowledge the generous actions they have done, they cannot compensate for the way they have represented themselves recently. Unfortunately, there should (and probably will) be consequences.
However, saying “think about how your actions impact other people” is completely ludicrous. Aside from hearing about it or seeing it and having an afterthought or two, did it REALLY affect you? No. No one was hurt. So quit being over sensitive and give this frat a break.
And another thing. The anti-semitism? Keep it to yourself. It’s sick and unattractive and in no way has anything to do with this.
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Godwin’s Law
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To whomever keeps making the comment about the tornado, please if you are going to change the subject…it’s HAITI…not Haytti…god forbid you actually know how to spell with a college education.
AEPi is an outstanding fraternity but this just seems ridiculous.
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They raised $2,000? My kids’ elementary school raised more than that in two weeks collecting cereal box tops. The greeks can’t manage more than 2K for “philanthropy?” 2K for booze and poon tang maybe, but philanthropy? Naw. Go get a fast food job boys. That’s all you’re skill set seems suited for.
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“Coastie” is a term of derision for the rich assholes who come here to party in Madison while they tell their parents they are attending school. It has absolutely nothing to do with a persons religious affiliation. It has everything to do with decades of children coming here from the East Coast and acting like they are free to do whatever they want, to whomever they want, because they can’t handle their alcohol and Daddy will bail them out. Don’t want to be called a “coastie”? Then don’t act like an entitled, destructive, drunk, dumb asshole.