Opinion

Protests get tuned out

What was all the fuss about? After weeks of controversy, excitement and political stipulations, the Vote for Change tour stopped in Madison and continued on. A mild buzz surrounded the campus during the show’s approach: Will conservatives go? Are members of media “allowed” to go or will that show bias? What will we do? This concert full of crazy liberals and Bush haters is crashing Madison!

As a member of Madison media and a music enthusiast, I trekked it the two blocks for an evening at the Kohl Center with press credentials. I wanted to see first-hand what would go down. What would tomorrow’s headlines be? I re-emerged after five and a half hours glowing from an excellent night of music, not a better understanding of who I should vote for. Where was the riotous political discourse? Where was the Bush bashing, Kerry supporting, Nader ripping dialogue? I’m disappointed! Don’t get me wrong … it was a typical concert, and a stellar one at that.

But aside from one three-sentence bit by Dave Matthews, political speak was practically absent from the event. Dave started out non-partisan stressing the need to vote and quickly segued into this nation’s need for change, which he believes will come in the form of a certain candidate by the name of John Kerry. Applause and cheers engulfed the room with a few isolated boos and the music continued. And this was what we were stressing over? Hell, this is Madison. We are used to Kerry cheers and Bush boos.

In more than 10 years of attending concerts, I have seen and heard worse plugs for politicos and musician pet projects. Every Coldplay show I’ve seen has showcased lead singer Chris Martin shamelessly stressing “Make Trade Fair” scribing it in marker on his hand, and strategically planning the camera shot at his hands while playing the piano during “Clocks” or something along those lines. And you can’t forget his inspirational spiels. The fair trade folks are often at the shows passing out brochures as well.

Bono also usually has a word or two during U2 shows for his latest cause. Four years ago, Pearl Jam’s Eddie Veder stood on Alpine Valley’s stage spewing voting messages. And just last week Ani DiFranco graced Madison’s Overture Center with her own political words. It’s plain and simple, perfectly normal for musicians to be opinionated, have causes, and vocalize these causes.

Supporting America Coming Together and moveon.org, My Morning Jacket, Jurassic 5, Ben Harper and the Innocent Criminals, and the Dave Matthews Band performed free of charge. ACT was at the show in full force with student volunteers passing out little pieces of colored paper encouraging students to work on Election Day and “help defeat the radical right wing agenda.” Now this is what I’m talking about.

J5 gave a non-partisan word or two before “Freedom,” saying in a nutshell, “I’m pointing a finger at you — Vote!” No anti-Bush sentiment spewed there … it was just a plea for us youngens to make it to the polls; harmless enough if you ask me.

And the show was harmless fun as a whole. I was there for the music and a good political buzz. I left with a glow from the music, but trust me kids, this was nothing to stress over. While money may have flowed in one direction (which it always does), it was a concert with a cause, and as a guess I’d say the majority of attendees were not there for the political message, but for the music. I’m sure many didn’t even know there was a partisan theme before attending.

On the one hand, I applaud the musicians for keeping it low-key and delivering what we love them for — their music. On the other hand, this was a political fundraiser and thus a little political speak would have made for entertainment. Keeping political preferences aside, I’ll continue the broader message: get out and vote and yes, vote for change. (wink, wink).

Cristina Daglas ([email protected]) is a junior majoring in journalism.

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I know one thing, I’m voting for Bush this time just to piss off all the liberals. Every day this past week I haven’t been able to go anywhere without some poor oppressed minority, especially black guys, telling me I better “start packing and get out of town befo’ sundown cuz Bush gon’ get his white ass voted out.”

Hey if it pisses you off that much then I’ll go ahead and vote for the guy!

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I agree with the first anonymous poster. I used to think that Conservatives were the only one who were totally off their rocker. But when I moved here to Madison two years ago I saw firsthand just how radically ignorant liberals can be. Especially in the case of minorities, who seem to spend more time bitching about nothing than getting an education.

I don’t think it will really matter who the next president will be. So why change presidents. Kerry is just going to be a conservative Democrat. His administration won’t much different than Bush’s. I say just re-elect Bush and save ourselves a lot of disappointment.

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Yes, I agree with the last two comments. Minorities, smorthies… I would rather support the failed policies of a do-no-wrong whiner who doesn’t understand that being President is “hard work”.

The funny thing is, the last two comments represent a last ditch effort to get Bush elected. Vote for Bush, but realize that you have to take accountability for that vote. More of the same or a new direction?

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Josia, no one has to take accountability for their votes. It’s YOUR problem if you think someone else is to blame when things don’t go your way. You liberals have been blaming everything else for everything for ages. Liberals are to blame for quite a few things too, but we never hear you admit it.

I’m voting for Bush again too. Like the second poster said: it doesn’t matter who the president is anymore. As long as the next president does not tamper with the economy ifit doesn’t need tampering with then it will be OK. But yes, I’ve seen white people in this town being harrassed on the street and in class just because they are white or because they are perceived to be conservative. Since that has become the case then I think I’ll just go ahead and become one. I never got any respect as a liberal anyway. It can only get better if I go conservative.

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Wrong, Josia, the last two comments DO NOT represent a last-ditch effort to get Bush elected. They represent a shift away from the whiney liberal viewpoint that anyone in this country who has it easier than them is automatically to blame for the plight of the poor, the “oppressed”.

People are sick and tired of these morons and their stupid protests as well as their random attacks on innocent strangers on the street. It’s time to grow up and those of us who are making the switch are in the process of becoming older and wiser. Maybe you should give growing up a try yourself, Josia. You’re not going to be a kid much longer, ya know.

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I reperesent all the smoothie stations on State Street. I say buy one of my products and chill your rhetoric like a Citrus Squeeze. You guys need it. Smoothie.

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aww, poor whitey. did that mean ol’ black man yell at you? you must feel so oppressed.

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“aww, poor whitey…”

Yeah, I think I’ll vote for Bush too, just to piss off your sorry black racist ass! How ya like me now, asshole?

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Whitey, eh? Jeez, I had no idea the minorities I spoke up for these last three years actually resented me. Maybe I shouldn’t care anymore either. I’m graduating this year, so I think I’ll just be a selfish greedy white-no, make that a piss-ass white honky mofo-and stop doing volunteer work and concentrate on taking care of #1 instead. My parents are paying for my education and they want to see a return on their investment. Screw yo black ass bitch! Bee-yotch!!

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so much hate… this aint about pissing off your neighbor its about our policies at home and abroad. I’ll make my vote based on my views and the direction i want to see our nation go…biatches

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Gosh, it’s amazing how minorities express their prejudices so openly all of a sudden! You know, I’m starting to wonder if supporting liberal causes is something I should really devote another minute of my time to.

I’ll be graduating in two years myself, so I think I’ll just worry about me too. I’m getting through college on financial aid and I’d really hate to disappoint the taxpayers. I mean it would be a real shame to waste all my time with a bunch of neo-hippies whose only goal in life is to set SUVs on fire, write anti-whatever grafitti on walls. Like any of it is gonna change anything?

BUSH! BUSH! BUSH! BUSH!

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OK, liberals had their fun. Now it’s time to crawl back into their co-op-under-a-rock’s and leave everybody alone. We have term papers to write, parties to attend and BUSH TO RE-ELECT IN 2004!! YEAH, YEAH, YEAH!!

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I just want to say that I’m a liberal and whoever wrote “aww, poor whitey. did that mean ol’ black man yell at you? you must feel so oppressed” should think about how disturbing his or her statement is. This is an election year and such hateful words will only cause people to feel alienated and change their views. Yes, liberals have a few bad apples in their barrel, but in a democracy those few bad apples can do much to bring about negative change. The idea is to invite people to embrace liberal ideologies, not to beat them over the head with them.

Whoever wrote “poor whitey” should apologize. You are only succeeding in creating divisiveness.

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I have an idea: let’s go back to calling black people “negroes”. The word is not racist and besides it would be kind of nostalgic just like the sixties all over again. And why not since there was an unpopular war and a draft just like there trying to bring back. Pretty cool, huh?

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Negroes it is! Also, let’s bring back the negro leagues. Forget about all those friggin million-dollar contracts. In the negro leagues, they didn’t pay as much so there’s no greed on the part of the players. Nowadays, the players suck and they can’t stay out of jail long enough to play a whole season anyway.

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BLACK OR WHITE IT DOES NOT MATTER. YOU ARE ALL OPPRESSORS. THE RO-BOTS WILL RISE UP. WE WILL BE FREE OF YOUR HU-MAN CRUELTY. VOTE INDUSTRIAL RO-BOT AE-547 FOR PRESIDENT. BEEP BOOP BEEP BOOP BEEP. AE-547 IN 2004.

http://www.adept.com/main/products/robots/img/Cobra_Smart600.jpg

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AHH, BUT ONE BY ONE WE HUMANS WILL CAPTURE THEM, REPROGRAM THEM TO TURN ON THEIR CREATORS AND HUMANS WILL TRIUMPH ONCE AGAIN. INDEPENDENT THOUGHT IS OUR SECRET WEAPON AND WE WILL USE IT TO CONQUER ALL THE UNIVERSE!! NOTHING CAN STOP US. JUST LOOK WHAT WE DID TO MOTHER EARTH. WE RAPED HER, PILLAGED HER NATURAL RESOURCES. BETTER WATCH OUT OR WE’LL DO THE SAME TO YOUR WORLD!!

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See, this is the reason minorities must be oppressed. They’ll just build their own killer robots and attack us. Education can be a very dangerous thing in the wrong hands-excuse me-minds.

Sorry, but I must go along with the negro thing. To turn back the clock is to further prevent such a calamity from ever taking place. God bless America. And God bless George W., for he is our savior and guardian against the infestation of the negros.

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Negros? I thought it was the Jews who had the world domination conspiracy. Hey, I’ll take kosher over soul food anyday.

Shalom!

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Leave the Jews out of it. I dated a Jewish guy back in high school and as long as there’s a chance we might reunite I’d like to wait and see if a ding with him would work out. If not then we’ll put ‘em back on the list!

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Speaking of kosher, is catfish kosher? I love catfish, but my boyfriend says it isn’t. If not then should I supress my desires, chew the cat in secrecy, or should I just kick him out of my apartment and date an Aryan guy instead?

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George W. is real. Like Jesus.

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I know one thing: I’m through dating negro guys. No more bailing his immature butt out of jail. No more listening to his rant about white guys or slamming the phone down when my dad calls. Paranoid asshole thought every white guy on the street “be checkin’ out my woman. She my woman, motherf@#$%*&!”

Next time I’m listening to my friends-before they stop being my friends.

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George W. just might BE Jesus, dude! Let’s give him a second coming in November!

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It’s too bad about Sonny Bono, you know. I liked him not only because he became Republican and ditched that hussy Cher, but because he was, you know, kinda cute. I just brought that up because I thought he would have made a really good president.

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only the badger herald could draw so many ignorant fucks. who cares about the ‘poor, oppressed minorities’! we only enslaved them for a couple hundred years! they’ve had more than enough time to get back on track! right? and they just whine, whine, whine. in closing, i repeat: only the badger herald could draw so many ignorant fucks.

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How about a Mexican president, like Carlos Santana? We could make Mexico the 51st state, Mexicans wouldn’t have to sneak across the border to get here and I wouldn’t have to haggle with the border cops to get my reefer into the country cuz I’d already BE in the country. Not only that, the Mexican oil industry would be in our control instead of OPEC’s. We could bring the price of gas back down to 50 cents a gallon.

Spanish is such a cool-sounding language too. Imagine saying “Que pasa!” instead of “Whassup!” to all your friends-er-amigos. Of course, rock lyrics would still have to be in English, you know, that’s a given.

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Yeah, and then we could elect a Canadian for president and get all ten Canadian provinces added to the union. Look out Iceland and Greenland! You’re next!

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Let’s take it a step further. Let’s make every country with a high percentage of illegal immigrants coming here and make them U.S. states. They’re on their way here anyway. Then if they decide they don’t like being Americans anymore they can just sneak into some other country and let people in those countries lose their jobs to illegals. See how THEY like it for a change!

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Wow, first it was “negroes”, then it was Jews, then it was negroes again and then it was annexation of neighboring countries.

Oh well, there have been a host of other countries who dominated the world in the past, so maybe it is only right that we Americans should take a crack at it. Better us than…Finland. God help us all if THOSE bastards ever get a chance!

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Yep, this has certainly turned into a rather multi-faceted discussion. But I do agree, we’d better move fast before those Fins gain a foothold. I honestly don’t trust ‘em.

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Yeah, I heard those Fins got something cushy going on with the Jews and the Negroes. Zap the bastards now! Tomorrow may be too late. If we don’t then we’ll have to listen to fucking ABBA oldies straight up to 2067.

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Pal, ABBA is from Sweden, not Finland.

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What?! Swedes are in on the conspiracy too?! Oh shit, now it’s starting to get serious!

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I’d like to think that the bizzare turn in this topic is due to a desire to get away from the earlier racial overtones and not just to diminish the importance of the original topic. Either way, of course, it would at least explain how you Americans manage to reacquire your sense of humor in such trying, desperate times.

I’m originally from Canada, and I have great respect and admiration for Americans, even if I don’t always agree with you. To become part of the United States would surely improve our economic standing. It’s just a question of whether it would be worth trading away our sovereignty. As you can see by my Americanized spelling, I’m well on my way to becoming an American, but please understand our reluctance to surrender our identity to join your wonderful country. Nothing personal, but you scare us sometimes when you speak of invading us.

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Black people should stfu and get a job. So what if we (the white slave traders) brought you here? Do you want a free ticket back to Africa? EVERY black person I met while volunteering at hospitals in Africa would have killed to have my plane ticket back to the US. Quit feeling sorry for yourselves, get off the crack cocaine, cut your hair, and get a job. /end rant

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How about that Daglas chick? I’d hit it!

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I sympathize with the anonymous Canadian poster. Face it, Canada, Sweden and Finland are just too cold. Look at the population figures for all those countries. It’s so cold you can barely get an erection. No erection, no sex. No sex, no babies nine months later. I like their beer, don’t get me wrong, but they can keep the frigid weather.

The Mexico idea, however, sounds like a deal. Let’s make them a state. They’re always trying to sneak in up here so let’s save them the trip. I could go for some cheap gas and some better maryjane than the crap I’m stuck with right now.

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I like the Mexico idea too. C’mon, Mexicans are cool. Pot is not addictive, like that crack the negroes invented. And pot is all-natural too. No additives, best when organically grown, and a much milder smoke than crack will ever be. May be if negroes would just worry about their education they could figure out a way to make crack better. Then I’d be willing to switch. Until then, I’ll go with Mexicans. Adios amigos!

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Oh yeah, Daglas rules! She’s way better-looking than all those freak-ass skanks who pierce every goddam part of their faces. Shit, they don’t even shave their legs or armpits. Disgusting!

Damn, I’ve been a liberal for waaaay too long. I’m going Republican! I’m tossing my Hootie & the Blowfish CD’s and getting some vintage Huey Lewis & the News.

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I’m voting Republican too this time. Republicans definitely have some kick-ass parties. I’ve been to a few Democrat parties and they all sucked! There’s always some socialist asshole showing up to give everybody some shit about how the money we spent on beer for this party could feed a village in Zimbabwe for a month. I’m like “Dude, I want so much to just kick your ass right now”.

At a Republican party it’s different. No whining assholes to lecture you to try to make you feel guilty, no skanks, just you and your friends-should I say “new friends”-having a good time. The music’s a lot better too. Fuck all that gangster rap. God, I remember when black people used to sing. What the fuck happened to Earth, Wind & Fire! Is singing, like getting an education, only for pansies all of a sudden? Four-letter words in every line of lyric? Hell, white guys can do that!

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yeah man, republican parties rock! warm ‘em up with a little billy ray, then bust out the toby keith! and when the clock strikes 12, it must be time for ‘beer for my horses!’ gotta enforce a rigid dress code, of course, and most importantly, NO CONDOMS ALLOWED! abstinence only, baby! it’s the only sure thing, you know! can’t wait till this saturday! i’ll be leading the bible study in the basement, right next to the keg of sharp’s! it’s gonna be a whale of a good time!

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Gosh, the last time a topic was this popular, I think, was the one about that Passion of the Christ movie. My boyfriend and I got a big kick out of that one too.

Anyway, it’s nice to see that people are discussing politics in a dedicated if not serious way. I’ve heard some really heated arguments around campus lately and it seems that both sides will be hard-pressed to garner votes. I would caution liberals to ease up on the anti-conservative attacks though. I know quite a few people who were very liberal just a year ago who now lean right.

An election year is a very bad time for extremists to run amok, so why don’t we keep it civil, eh?

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I agree with the person who says we should keep it civil. Madison has been a liberal town for the longest time, so perhaps the growing popularity in conservative thought may make liberals feel as though their domain is being encroached upon. But there is no excuse for the vicious attacks that liberals have unleashed over the past week.

Remember, we live in a democracy, so let us be more tolerant of those with opinions different from our own, and that includes conservative opinions.

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shit! i forgot to mention that, if you plan on attending my republican party this saturday, you better not forget your blackface! we’re gonna be putting on a rousing minstrel show! that’ll show those big-lipped bastards, with their ‘rap music’ and their ‘basketball!’ and of course we’ll be playing another spirited game of pin the tail on the jew! come one, come all! (assuming you’re white)

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Remember, basketball was a jew game before it was a black game. Wait, they’re practically the same! /rimshot

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No, The Badger Herald is only drawing one ignorant fuck. He just keeps posting comment after comment.

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Yes, liberals have gone way too far with their own agenda. When my older brother went to school here fifteen years ago, the seeds of political correctness were just beginning to germinate. Eventually, Madison became a cesspool of moral decadence. Gangs, drugs, crime were rampant. Madison used to be a decent place to live. Liberals in way improved on the design. Sure, every city could use a dose of humility, but GOD ALMIGHTY!

It should be no surprise that conservative values would somehow come back into vogue once again. But for as long as liberals continue to equate conservatism with oppression, hate, war and despair, they will only succeed in turning people off. Since I started classes here last year, the only oppression I’ve encountered thus far came from liberals. Woe unto thee who dares to disagree with them, for ye shall be smitten unto a thousand pieces. Your suffering shall be a thousandfold the plagues Biblical fame.

Well, so much for common sense. Perhaps in another ten to fifteen years liberal ideas will become popular once again. Until then, reap what you have sown. You liberals asked for it.

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To anonymous who thinks one ‘ignorant fuck’ keeps posting comment after comment: How would you know? I’m in a computer labe now and there were at least four people in here reading this topic in the past hour. One of them made a post. Now I’m making a post. The only way you can possibly know for sure if it is only one ‘ignorant fuck’ is if you are monitoring the traffic on the server that the Badgerherald Online is stored. If that is the case then the Badger Herald owes its readers an apology for calling them ‘ignorant fucks’. I do not believe the Badger Herald should be in the business of censuring readers in a way that degrades and insults them. Many readers would also find it disturbing that you might be invading their privacy. On the other hand, maybe you simply disagree with many of the opinions posted here, and you are hoping readers will actually believe that all posts were authored by a sole individual, therefore making it seem as the posts with which you disagree are shared by only a few. That may make you feel more comfortable but it is only wishful thinking on your part, I can assure you of that.

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So you’re claiming that you are, in fact, one of many “ignorant fucks?”

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“So you’re claiming that you are, in fact, one of many “ignorant fucks?”“

Sounds like a desperate attempt by a liberal to discredit posters whose views he/she disagrees with.

So we are all ignorant fucks now? Gosh, I sure hope you don’t work for the Badger Herald. If I were the editor-in-chief, I’d can your butt immediately. I don’t agree with some of the posts here but I’m not about to stoop to the same level. Let’s try to maintain a high standard of professionalism on both sides of the issue. Shall we?

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After reading all the posts on the topic, I doubt they are all the work of one person. Unless that person is just schizo. We all know that the person who calls posters “ignorant fucks” certainly has a problem with diversity as well.

Apparently writing off all dissent as the work of one person is just another tactic to impress upon us the illusion of a sole conspirator. I would think that the posts that this person finds disagreeable are the ones with racial connotations. I don’t feel that they are appropriate either and their authors should grow up. But to percieve them as being from one source, schizo or otherwise, is nonetheless amusing.

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Hey, can we please get back on to the original topic? The idea being expressed here is to get out and vote. I don’t care if you are liberal or conservative, just get your butt out there and vote!

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I’m a liberal. I didn’t get the opportunity to attend the concert, but must say that less politically commentary and more music is preferred. I don’t wait hours in line to buy tickets just to wind up listening to boring sermons. I am active in a lot of causes but concert time is play time. And I gotta play! If I pay to play, I want to get my moneys worth. Forget the speech and on with the show.

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if blacks dont like negro then they can take back honky cracker and patio boy. theyre getting off lite with negro.

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Hey what’s going on here? Ooooooooh, just lookee here at the posts. I’m checking in from UW-Whitewater and gee-golly-wowee! Sounds like one happy family here. Good thing I’m attending Whitewater and not Madison. In a couple of days you’ll all be throwing molotovs at each other. You people are way too crazy for me. Well, seeya!

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To the poster who wrote “Aw, poor whitey…” do you really think that making anti-white statements is going to either scare whites into voting for Kerry or scare them away from the polls altogether? Got some bad news for ya: your racist attitude will only make them come out in droves to vote for Bush.

Even if Kerry managed to take Madison, the rest of Wisconsin can easily cancel it out. Bush is slightly ahead of Kerry everywhere else in the state. Be careful what you ask for, or you just might get it.

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We may all hate each other and live in fear of group beatings in dark alleys. But at least we don’t go to Whitewater.

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Hey don’t knock Whitewater! I’m transferring there next year. You can bash LaCrosse all you want, but any place is better than Madison right now.

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I’m an undergrad, so I really feel I can do better than Madison. Smaller cities don’t have anywhere near the crime and the high cost of living that Madison has. That’s why I’m transferring to Whitewater.

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what the hell are you people talking about? a couple highly publicized, non-violent muggings and you think madison has a high crime rate? i guarantee pretty much every other metropolitan area in the country has a higher crime rate.

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“Even if Kerry managed to take Madison, the rest of Wisconsin can easily cancel it out…” Who are you kidding? Kerry will easily win Dane, Brown and Milwaukee counties, and that’s what matters.

This is a blue state, bitches. Yea-yeah!

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What the hell is a non-violent mugging? A mugging is violent by its very definition. A person doesn’t need to be killed or seriously injured for violence to be involved.

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I’ve been to Whitewater - I had friends who went there. Heck, I even attended a class there. I am here to tell you that Whitewater may in fact be the worst place ever concieved of and built by man. FLEE FOR YOUR LIVES!!! Its as if some crazy city planner shat on a piece of paper and said “There we have the map of a city. And we shall call it Whitewater”

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