are you seriously complaining about having to pay $180 a year for an optional drug?

Are you seriously complaining about paying $180 per year for an optional drug?

The Pill made it possible for women to make total sluts of themselves, at the risk of cervical cancer. Now men must assume a similar risk? Just so both can get their rocks off? I’d say put that $180 to better use and stop giving into your “primal urges” and act you have some kind of control over your body chemistry, kids!

Get that sheepskin first, get a real job and THEN you can take a casual roll between the sheets ya damn nymphos!

Careful! The above poster is incorrect - lambskin condoms are not as effective at preventing pregnancy/ STD’s as latex condoms. Also, I believe s/he mispelled ‘I am a judgemental moralizing prig who believes sex is only for reproduction - unless you have a job, in which case, go for it!’

Careful! The above poster is incorrect - lambskin condoms are not as effective at preventing pregnancy/ STD’s as latex condoms. Also, I believe s/he mispelled ‘I am a judgemental moralizing prig who believes sex is only for reproduction - unless you have a job, in which case, go for it!’

The only advantage you have in getting a job before screwing is that you can pay for your own abortions. And that’s gonna be one big motherf*ing bill, lemme tell ya!

I hope that a male birth control pill comes out. It’d be great. It’d be more reassuring because the power to prevent preganancies could be in my hands as a male. If it was just a hookup, I’d use a condom (a latex one) to prevent STDs, but this way I know that even if the condom breaks (which I’ve never had happen), the pregnancy risk is reduced. Even if she says she’s on the pill, can you really trust her?

Also, it makes relationship sex easier. If you are both on the pill, there’s no need for a condom to prevent pregnency. You can make love the ol’ fahsioned way and avoid that always awkward momenet after foreplay and before sex where the guy has to put on his jimmy.

I hope that a male birth control pill comes out. It’d be great. It’d be more reassuring because the power to prevent preganancies could be in my hands as a male. If it was just a hookup, I’d use a condom (a latex one) to prevent STDs, but this way I know that even if the condom breaks (which I’ve never had happen), the pregnancy risk is reduced. Even if she says she’s on the pill, can you really trust her?

Also, it makes relationship sex easier. If you are both on the pill, there’s no need for a condom to prevent pregnency. You can make love the ol’ fahsioned way and avoid that always awkward momenet after foreplay and before sex where the guy has to put on his jimmy.

If you’re such a poor slut who needs the pill, why don’t you just charge some guy $180 for sex? Problem solved.

This article is pitiful. I’m not going to go on any further, as to not justify it with a response.

It must have made some impact because you took the time to write a response, so you did justify it. Hmmmm….

I for one am super-duper eagerly awaiting the male pill. Seriously, why the hell not? I’ve known a lot of women who for one reason or another couldn’t be on the pill, and though I never take my chances not using one, I personally hate condoms (not as much as I figure I’d hate an STD or a bastard child). Assuming a monogamous relationship, or very very regular STD testing, the male pill would just double my chances of being able to hit it sans condom. I can’t believe more medical researchers aren’t thinking with their wangs like me.

Choosing to take the pill is definitely taking control of one’s body. And since it takes two to tango, it should take two to act responsibly. A male pill is a great idea. Thanks for bringing this topic to the forefront!

yeah, what an important issue you brought to the forefront, sharing the pitiful 180 per year for birth control. What a joke this paper is.

The Badger Herald Opinion Page has hit a new low. Will you guys ever bottom out? If you ever do, let me know and I’ll start reading again.

I agree, this article is pitiful. I’m also not going to go on any further, as to not justify it with a response.

Great, an article written in a college paper about a pill we will have the opportunity to take 10 years from now. I will clip this piece now, then look at it in 2015 when it becomes relevant.

why should we have to take responsibility for the sex if we have no say over the child that results from it… you can kill it without any say from that man.

And seriuosly… 180 bucks? that is a heck of allot chaper than having a kid. And if you are worried about that money, how about we get rid of seg fees… that will more than pay for it.

Im just gonna get a vasectomy and be done with it… kids are annoying anyway

Let’s talk side effects. Are there any, besides being pussy whipped?

Thank God I’m a lesbian! You straight girls put yourselves through so much bullshit for all these fucking men just to be appreciated. And for what?! So they can keep on fucking your brains out?! That’s all you’re worth to them!

Okay, I’ll calm down for a paragraph or two. But seriously, sex has always been a male-dominated realm, and they only have to come once to earn their identities as “studs” while women just have to take care of themselves after his big finale, only to be forgotten the next morning. Oh yeah, it’s especially insulting when the asshole can’t even remember your friggin’ name or how he wound up with you! See just how much significance you have in his world? Nada, baby! If it weren’t for vibrators, straight women would either go berserk or try to become one of us.

So yes, I’m glad there will be a birth control pill for men. I’ll never have to contend with it, but it sure is nice to see all you alpha-males shoulder the responsibility for once. The cervical cancer risk mentioned by another poster is definitely a major danger to sexually-active straight women. And if a male birth control pill causes a low sperm count, hey great! That’s just means there’s less mess for her to clean up…or swallow, if he’s that particular.

I’ll admit there’s one thing that makes a man’s penis attractive to a die-hard dyke like me: put a cutesy little bonnet on that li’l willy and draw a little cutesy face on the end, just like a little hand puppet…

Wow, there’s a lesbian who doesn’t go for stereotyping and innuendo. Ooooh, all us terrible terrible alpha males. Really, the feminist and sexual revolutions were just our vicious scheme so we could screw you all before marriage. And you fell for it! Ha!

Oh, and lower sperm count doesn’t mean less semen. It just means less sperm in the semen. That’s why guys who are infertile or less fertile don’t know they have problems until they try and have kids. Because there is no other way of knowing.

Finally, since one good stereotype deserves another, which type of lesbian are you? Are you the butch one? Because I’m definitely envisioning you as a butch type.

To the lesbian who posted: So you don't go through any trouble to attract other women? Must be fun making out with the no self-esteem hags. Be real; everyone goes through something to be in a relationship, and even once you're there you have to maintain it. Id like a male pill merely for the sake of preventing miniature versions of myself from running around. I don't consider myself a stud, and I’m pretty sure most of my male friends don't either. And if you’re hooking up with intoxicated assholes that don't know you're name in the morning maybe you should be less concerned about men and more concerned about the types of men you try to go home with at the end of the night. Women to me, and everyone I know, aren't merely around so I can “keep fucking my brains out”. You’ve grossly misrepresented and oversimplified the complexities of male female interaction, and I’m sure sane homosexual females out there thank you for the image you portray.

To the lesbian who posted: So you don't go through any trouble to attract other women? Must be fun making out with the no self-esteem hags. Be real; everyone goes through something to be in a relationship, and even once you're there you have to maintain it. Id like a male pill merely for the sake of preventing miniature versions of myself from running around. I don't consider myself a stud, and I’m pretty sure most of my male friends don't either. And if you’re hooking up with intoxicated assholes that don't know you're name in the morning maybe you should be less concerned about men and more concerned about the types of men you try to go home with at the end of the night. Women to me, and everyone I know, aren't merely around so I can “keep fucking my brains out”. You’ve grossly misrepresented and oversimplified the complexities of male female interaction, and I’m sure sane homosexual females out there thank you for the image you portray.

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Hey, I didn’t try to make a comparison to the lesbian way of life, pal! And no, I’m not butch either. You wouldn’t know me from a straight girl until I kicked you in the family jewels for hittin’ up on me.

My point was not that straight sex is inferior to gay/lesbian sex. Whatever floats your boat! The point is that in the straight arena, a woman’s only way of justifying her existence is to be a goddess with a tight tush and an even tighter twat, which we in the LGBT community think is totally twisted. I mean, a woman can’t even get a job in the typing pool unless she can primp circles around Angelina Jolie and suck-start a leaf blower. Just to put food on her table, for chrissakes! Men, on the other hand, get to be the barge-in-charge just because they’re men. So what’s all the bitchin’ about Affirmative Action? Entitlement? Been around a long time, it’s just our turn for once.

I’d like to address another quote posted here by a man: “Really, the feminist and sexual revolutions were just our vicious scheme so we could screw you all before marriage.” Well, maybe not the feminist revolution. The sexual revolution was more or less for the benefit of men; the feminist movement was there just to make you men feel like hopeless, insecure, sexually-obsessed imbeciles, the same way you made us women feel like “sluts” when we played fast and loose with the same morals. And since you referred to it as a “scheme” then it should be no surprise if we “ho’s” take a swipe at “studs” like you every now and then.

Another male-mentality-induced ejaculation I’d like to spit back at you: “You’ve grossly misrepresented and oversimplified the complexities of male female interaction,…” Oh, have I? Complexities, you call them? Listen, macho-pants, the modus operandi buttcheeks like you use to try to impress those freshmen girls-hell, you may as well target junior-high girls!-is far more primitive than anything depicted on National Geographic: “…and I’m sure sane homosexual females out there thank you for the image you portray.” If they’re eyes have yet to be opened so they can see losers like you as you really are, then yes, I’m sure they’re thankful. What could their own mothers tell them about your ilk that would be any different?

Look, don’t get me wrong, sly guy. There are some really decent straight men out there. God love ‘em. If only God would make more of ‘em! What YOU need to realize is that no woman needs to put out for a beer-guzzling, dung-brain wretch like you to earn your respect, for whatever the hell that’s worth. Give head to get ahead? No thanks, we’d rather just walk all over you and leave you in the dust. That’s where you belong.

I have go now, I’m expecting another pointless, sophomoric rebuttal from you any minute.

To the idiot who posts twice: Why? we got it the first time!

Wow, great invective there lesbian avenger! I like your style…

Did people here know that you can dip your balls in like 115-120 degree hot water for like half an hour and completely kill your sperm count for like a couple of months? Or so I heard…

So scald your balls for the ladies!

If I could take a pill that kept me from getting all those dumb sorority sluts I bone every weekend pregnant…lord knows I’d take it…

And man, is there anything easier than picking up a Kappa Gamma or a DU slut than by buying her her favorite cocktini of choice, offering her a line later back at your place, and then giving her the old once over?

Perhaps some of the problem here is that lots of girls are stupid and just love to be fucked and fucked over by guys like me?

I heard Icy-Hot on the balls works well, too. Hurts like a son of a bitch, but it’s a small price to pay.

And does anyone else think it’s pretty cool that Birth Control was handled by MEN for thousands of years, then with the advent of the Pill was a huge tenant of Feminism, and now it’s the man’s turn again? Just something I found interesting.

Also, you COULD just show a little self-restraint and basic human dignity if you don’t want to pay money.

Wow, one comment by a lesbian and you straight boys kick into testoterone overdrive. I guess that makes you more of a man, huh? Most of you stupid breeders just think that every woman out there wants to suck you off like its all they live for. And if they won’t then they must be dykes who have no business being out on the street, am I right?

Yeah, we “lezzies” are just the biggest pain in the ass in your life, while all you breeders keep on making illegitimate babies and dumping them in the nation’s adoption agencies. Then you protest when a gay couple wants to adopt a child that none of you wanted in the first place. Pretty strange.

Well it ain’t such a bad thing that another birth control method is on the way. Maybe the less straights there are as a result of it, the less of your self-righteous bullshit LGBT’s will have to put up with in our lives.

I think straights are the biggest fucking joke. The whole straight singles scene is so pathetic. You all dress up, go out and get drunk and tell each other lies about yourself just to get into each others pants. Then you wake up the next morning all hung over wondering what the hell happened last night. And to think that you assholes are the ones running the country. You and your redneck president, who’s life and policies are more indicative of how fucked up his brain is than what he thinks is best for the rest of us.

So go ahead and piss off at the lesbian who was only trying to set you straight, pardon the pun. Maybe we LGBT’s should just butt out anyway. After all, birth control is a straight person’s problem. The only problem we LGBT’s have is…you.

To the lesbian poster, I don’t really think too many people posting care at all about what you have to say one way or the other. We’re after two different sets of girls for the most part.

As far as the leaps in logic you make about Bush being “our” (whoever “our” is) president, they’re too outlandish to dignify with a response.

The straight dating scene is pitiful? I’m pretty sure the “telling lies” and “getting dressed up” doesn’t only apply to straight men, or am I to assume that every homosexual is open, honest, and doesn’t dress well? If this is true, please explain Club 5.

“If this is true, please explain Club 5.”

Fuck off, straight boy!

Nice explanation. A solid defense rooted in the facts… You defame bars like the KK, but the moment any part of LGBT lifestyle is put up for scrutiny you respond with obscenities. I think it’s pretty telling.

Amen! Honey, I applaud you for putting out your point of view. Men do need to accept responsibility for their actions and a general respect for women and women’s bodies has yet to be fully realized. However, ending, as in your last post, with grandiose generalizations and hurtful accusations about all straight people,their political leanings, and their inner drives is just bitchy. And hypocritical.

No, I think its about time you heteros took a hard look at yourselves. Look how many fights and shootings there are at the straight bars. Look how many underage drinkers you have. There not exactly lining up to get in at Club 5 are they?

And thats not counting the numerus safety violations at the straight bars. They just pack them in tight wall to wall. No I think its the straight bars that attract all the low lifes in this town.

Hey Estie- how about this. When you get married, instead of a $10,000 ring, how about if the man just reimburses you for your past birth control expenses. It will be a lot less than 10 grand I will guarantee that. I don’t know if you ever took the time to think about it, but men put up with a lot of bs in relationships also.

“Men do need to accept responsibility for their actions and a general respect for women and women’s bodies has yet to be fully realized.”

Sounds like another grandiose generalization. ALL men regard women as sex objects? Gosh, after all these years educating men, it seems that those of us who are educated still are not worthy of your approval. Maybe the neanderthals had the right idea all along: use ‘em and lose ‘em.

“I don’t know if you ever took the time to think about it, but men put up with a lot of bs in relationships also.”

Not nearly half as much as women do, bucko. We have to cook, sew, do your fucking laundry and bail you out of jail while you sit around on your ass watching the stupid game on our TV. How many men have ever had to do that for a woman, or would do it?

sure women, you have it so rough, that is why you work fewer hours and have a longer life span.

“sure women, you have it so rough, that is why you work fewer hours and have a longer life span.”

We work longer hours for less pay to take home the same amount of money to cover more expenses since the men don’t pull their own weight around the house. Women also have the extra burden of being breadwinner and homemaker because the ol’ asshole had to make a run for it to another state to avoid paying child support. And the bastard doesn’t even come to visit his kids.

Unless we are axed to death by our exes we are just plain lucky to have a longer life span. At least we have the joy of outliving you! Or we could also say that our suffering lasts a little longer than yours.

Face it, you men are fucking pigs! Every goddamn one of you!

Still waiting for the defense of Club 5.

How wonderful to see that the straight and LGBT communities can have civilized, rational conversation as opposed to simply spouting hateful rhetorical bile.

The pill may cost $180 a year. Coathangers are a one time costs that can last a lifetime. I’m sure all you whores can afford one.

“How wonderful to see that the straight and LGBT communities can have civilized, rational conversation as opposed to simply spouting hateful rhetorical bile.”

Yes, they are one happy family in Madison. They even breathe the same air.

What is it about Club 5 that needs defending? And to whom is Club 5 accountable?

Hetero stud muffin wants to press the Club 5 issue. What a dork. Can’t justify his existence so he has to single out gays and lesbians. What a loser. You know what the problem is? There are too many straights in this society. We need to do some cleansing to get rid of all the asshole breeders and their stupid air-headed girlfriends who follow them around mindlessly. Christ, I wouldn’t waste my precious time salivate over a disgusting man! In fact, why don’t men do all the menial tasks instead of women? That’s all men were ever good for.

“Face it, you men are fucking pigs! Every goddamn one of you!”

I’m not a pig. I always treat women with respect and I don’t appreciate being called a pig just because you’ve had some negative experiences. So if you want to play the stereotype game, here’s one for you: you’re probably one of those women who ignores nice guys because they’re not exciting enough for you, then complains that the assholes who turn you on treat you like shit.

You seriously need help.

“There are too many straights in this society. We need to do some cleansing to get rid of all the asshole breeders and their stupid air-headed girlfriends who follow them around mindlessly.”

You know who’s a breeder? Your father.

You know who else? Your mother.

If it wasn’t for asshole breeders and their stupid air-headed girlfriends who follow them around mindlessly, you wouldn’t even exist.

To answer why Club 5 needs defending…

“I think straights are the biggest fucking joke. The whole straight singles scene is so pathetic. You all dress up, go out and get drunk and tell each other lies about yourself just to get into each others pants.”

To which the reply was:

The straight dating scene is pitiful? I’m pretty sure the “telling lies” and “getting dressed up” doesn’t only apply to straight men, or am I to assume that every homosexual is open, honest, and doesn’t dress well? If this is true, please explain Club 5.

The reply to the reply was:

“If this is true, please explain Club 5.”

Fuck off, straight boy!

I’m a straight male and i’ve been there a few times with some gay friends. All i’m saying is that protraying gay society as a culture where no one is judged based on looks is simply untrue. Regardless of if you’re a butch lesbian or a sharp dressing gay man, people there are dressing to make an impression, just like at the State Bar or the Blue Velvet.

As far as the assertion that straight people are the only ones telling lies, sorry, you’re simply wrong.

Taking this ridiculous moral high ground just makes people hesitant to listen to any salient points you’re making.

No, the point is heteros overpopulate, create every crisis known to humans and then blame it on someone else, namely us. Next thing you know they’ll be claiming that birth control was a conspiracy by the gay community to regulate the propogation of straights. What other kinds of gags are heteros thinking up?

And why is it that men claim to believe in equality, yet we still don’t have a woman president? Why don’t men want a woman to be the boss? What are you all afraid of? Afraid we’ll castrate you? Afraid we’ll send you down to the corner for a box of tampons? Afraid the whole world will finally realize what a travesty men were all along? Pussies!

No, the point is heteros overpopulate,(can gays populate? is this even an issue taken up by the mainstream gay community?) create every crisis known to humans and then blame it on someone else, namely us. (NHL strike: gay people’s fault) Next thing you know they’ll be claiming that birth control was a conspiracy by the gay community to regulate the propogation of straights. (i don’t want kids, so if gay people invented it, thanks) What other kinds of gags are heteros thinking up? (funny ones, just you wait for the next season of Chappelle show)

And why is it that men claim to believe in equality, yet we still don’t have a woman president? (jumping from gay issue to women’s rights issue) Why don’t men want a woman to be the boss? (where is this coming from?) What are you all afraid of? (delusional people like you) Afraid we’ll castrate you? (no) Afraid we’ll send you down to the corner for a box of tampons? (no, you are obviously a lesbian, so you’ll send your girlfriend) Afraid the whole world will finally realize what a travesty men were all along? (no, march madness is coming up, and EVERYONE loves that) Pussies! (i love them, just not yours)