Well Fayyad, I think you will have the jews rather pissed with this one. lol I appreciated one very good point you make — jews have managed to tie criticism of isreal to anti semitism…but let’s expand on that and admit the only reason “israel” exists is because of guilt over the “holocaust.”

Zionism is the national liberation movement of the Jewish people. It liberated hundreds of thousands of Jews from the second class citizenship, dhimmi status, under which Jews and Christians are still forced to live in Muslim lands. It aimed in returning Jews to the Jewish homeland. Jews are indigenous to Judea, the land of Israel. Jews lived there from about 1200 BCE (when archaeology shows that the Jewish people emerged, an indigenous people) There were still large Jewish communities in the land of Israel whne the Muslims rode in as imperial conquerers. The archaeological record shows cynagogues taken over and converted to mosques with the addition of mihrab after the conquest. What goes around comes around, Fayyad. Jews are an indigenous people returning to their land. Arabs are conquerers. Jews have the right to live in the Jewish homeland.

The reason why people tend to call you an anti-Semite, is that you wish to deny exclusively to the Jews the right to the national aspiration to have a nation state in their homeland that you grant to other peoples.

It was your full-time, paid position as an operative for anti-Israel groups like the PFLP that “kept you from your course work?” Not what I’ve heard. My understanding is that you were sent to Madison by the PFLP to pretend to be a student so that you could work full-time to destory the Jewish State.

What if the Palestinians put the money they pay people like Fayyad to do political anti-Israel work in Madison into building an economy?

What if they put just half the effort the waste building bombs into building a civil society?

Fayyad, is your brain capable of functionality in any other capacity besides bashing Jews and Israel? The Arabs lost, the Jews won and that settles it. Don’t think that you’re gonna get any tea and sympathy by writing this crap!

Fayyad, I’ve argued over the past year against your idiocy and your lies, but at this point there isn’t much more to say. Like so many other (perhaps less articulate) Arab fanatics, you simply aren’t going to win this battle. So fuck off and die.

” In ChE, this proved problematic.”

It wouldn’t be problematic if you were any good at it. Chemistry and Chemical Engineering are easy.

I don’t know how easy a major ChE is, but it is plain that Fayyad is not very brigth, certainly not bright enough to employ logic.

Proposition, the Palestinian nation deserves sovereignty.

Corollary, the Jews natin also deserves sovereignty.

and as for charging anyone who can see that what we have are two national liberation movements, each entitled to some recognition with being “morally bankrupt”

Only the intellectually bankrupt could say so.

I hope you paid attention in some classes. After all, a ChE major should be useful back home making bombs with the PFLP to murder innocent children in pizza restaurants.

typical palistinian/arab tactics… GOING OUT WITH A BANG! lol

yeah, this was truly an “explosive” piece!

if israel acted as it is accused of being, and committed genocide on the fertility worshipers aka “palestinians,” then maybe you could compare it to south africa, bosnia, or darfur. those are places where hundreds of thousands were slaughtered. no doubt, israel has the military might and motivation to purge “palestinians” from its land. however, they just don’t have the cruelty or lack of compassion to do it. so, lay off the “holocaust” comparisons of jewish aggression. it’s a well known fact that israel painstakingly risks its own soldiers lives to preserve “palestinian” life…otherwise, there would be no more “palestinians” left because they would be bombed into the desert…except for in jordan, where they constitute a majority of the population, but live in worse conditions than under israeli rule. by the way, is it a coincidence that fayyad majored in “che?” as in che the commie? as in yet another link between lefties, commies, and terrorists?

Wow, that person was aggresive and opinionated. Let’s train our kids from day one to love death and fear the gut-robbing Jews. Let’s tell them in infancy that if it weren’t for the money-grubbing, murduring Jews, that we would live not in a sand castle or teepee, but in a palace like Saddam used to. Then, when the infants reach kindergarden age, we can dress them up in suicide bombing equipment and tell them how they can share the same 72 virgins with the millions of other martyrs that have killed the horned and tailed, blood drinking, greedy Jews. Then, we can finally live in peace. That is until we rub shoulders with any other different religion such as hindus, christians, tribal africans, or even other brands of moslems. For one thing is certain. Every region of this world that neighbors moslems has violence. Could it be the religion of “submission?” Oops, I mean, religion of peace.

Speaking of terrorists, I’ve always been curious of why so many folks who support the Palestinian cause aren’t protesting Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Quaeda for brainwashing other people’s kids into blowing themselves up to kill others. I have honestly never seen any effort on the part of activists to confront these wacko terrorists for the crap they do.

OK, so Israel is wrong for tearing down Palestinian homes just because one member of the family was brainwashed into thinking that they would be revered for committing mass murder. So Israel is wrong for allowing settlements to be built on what is clearly Palestinian land. But that’s fighting only half the battle. There are plenty of bad guys on BOTH sides of the conflict. Broadswording one side completely while totally ignoring the shenanigans going down on the other side doesn’t make sense.

Until viable becomes more reasonable and mutually acceptable, nothing will be accomplished. As far as I’m concerned, Fayyad and all others who think like him have nothing constructive to offer. He is clearly biased. A person of his intellectual stature should know better.

So, over the past few moths, Fayyad Sbaihat Jets around the country to organize cro-Palestinian, anti-Israel conferences at Duke University and others, travels to participate in panels and give talks to spread his hateful propaganda, and on top of that, manages to get divestment resolutions out of UW-Platteville faculty senate, TAA, and TAUWP, while in chemical engineering, the hardest undergraduate major on campus.

I’m starting to think that he is paid by hte PFLP to do this full time work.

“…but let’s expand on that and admit the only reason “israel” exists is because of guilt over the “holocaust.”“

Citizen, it is much more than guilt. It is simply the right thing to do. After six million of your own people are rounded up and systematically murdered, SIX COUNT-EM-ALL MILLION, you’d want your own country too! As for the Palestinians, they weren’t the first ones to live in Israel, and they helped the British keep as many Jewish refugees out as possible. Damn straight Isreal has a right to exist. If Israel doesn’t, then it’s high time Native Americans got all their land back from all us ex-Europeans. And let’s give California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas back to Mexico while we’re at it. Still have a problem with reality, do ya?

“And let’s give California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas back to Mexico while we’re at it.”

No worries mate, La Reconquista will take those lands back. The invasion has been proceding for years while the politicians on doth sides turn a blind eye. Any opposition to illegal immigration is imediately labeled racist and shouted down.

six million now? that number goes up every year

“six million now? that number goes up every year”

How do you figure? That’s been the number since the late 1940s.

Six million is the accurate number.

More importantly, the holocaust proved that the only way to protect Jewish lives is for Jews to have a homeland where they can defend themselves.

It’s a little naive to expect anti-Israel activists of Fayyad’s ilk to criticize Palestinian bad behavior equally with Israeli bad behavior. Fayyad is on the side of terrorism, his organizaitons Al Awda and Palestine Solidaritym Movement are openly in favor of terror bombing.

One of the differences between the Israeli and Palestinian/Arab positions is that Israel has an active politicl scens where everyone from radical left to far right is represented, and many organized voices criticize the government. Organized Jewish groups even advoacate for the dismantlement of the Jewish State.

There is no equivalent on the Arab Palestinian side. Why?

Because when Palestinians speak up in sympathy with Jews, or on behalf of peace, they are brutally silenced.

what palestinian would ever support a jew

The best thing about the end of Fayyad’s 4 years at UW… is that hopefully he will be gone. Most likely to end up blowing himself up either making a bomb or hoping to find 72 Arab virgins (does he count as one)….. are there any left?

I doubt he’s going anywhere. He’ll probably spend the summer here organzing the Palestine soldiarity movement conference in madison so he can bring his follow paid PFLP activists together.

So, how is it that he’s been here for four years, but always been a senior?

Che the commie, hehe, that’s a good one, it would be awesome if every one chose a major based on how the acronym sounds.

Maybe he’ll have to stay around and keep taking the salary from the PFLP. After all, who else would hire a guy on record in support of suicide bombers? Like, we don’t have chemichal engineering firms that stupid.

There’s a petition to ask UW to deny space to the terrorism-supporting conference Fayyad is plaining fro Madison in Oct. posted at : http://www.petitiononline.com/stopPSM/petition.html

Nah, he won’t be getting a job anywhere, he does not even need one. Seems to me like this guy is living large off of his terrorist salary, he has his own apartment on Langdons St, he drives a BMW (for some reason a car of choice for Palestinians), and he is out clubbing every night witha new girl. I really don’t think he cares about Palestine or what happenes to it, he’s happy to do this work for the money.

Does he truly drive a BMW? What model? Does anyone have a photo posted somewhere.

Who knew being a political hack for terrorists paid so well?

Maybe we should all quit school and just sign up to shill for Hamas and Islamic Jihad like Fayyad.

funny how terrorists hate western civilization, but they love all of its luxuries. tap water, mass produced clothing instead of rags and blankets, electricity, metalurgy, computers, cars, steel buildings, accessible food, cell phones…come to think of it, if it weren’t for evil christian westerners, that black gold they have under them would simply be black goopy liquid that they couldn’t drink or swim in, in the middle of the sandworld. yea, that would be helpful to them. instead they hate us for trying to use their resources while giving them the only capital they could ever hope of earning.

That’s so not true, think of the glassware that could come out of the sandy land.

BMW on langdon? Maybe he’s a closet coastie jew

Fayyad is not a terrorist. He is a paid, full-time PR flack who works for terrorists.

I still hate his shirt.

Fayyad may have real ambition!. After all, Arafat ended up a VERY rich man. Doesn’t his widow get a 20 million dollar a year allowance?

“Imagine if the KGB could have sent agents into the US with the promise of paid college credit and US college degrees during the height of the Cold War and you get a picture of what the Davis-Putter Scholarship Fund means to do. Fayyad Sbaihat, the head of the Palestine Solidarity Movement, who according to Israeli security sources, has an entire family that has links to the terrorist group the Popular Front For The Liberation of Palestine has been a professional Palestinian “student” organizer for years arranging national conferences all over US and Canadian campuses. Now, thanks to Davis-Putter the PLO can import as many Fayyad Sbaihats as it wants to US college campuses and, just to make sure they do a good job and have incentive, they can earn a US college degree to boot plus receive a stipend.” —Lee Kaplan, Scholarships For Terror

http://64.233.167.104/custom?q=cache:Bea6C3tJyGYJ:www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp%3FID%3D17630+sbaihat&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

I for one will miss Fayyed. His writings gave us all an inside look into the hate-mongering ideals that permeate much of the middle east. I would also like to thank all who intelligently posted to rebut the propaganda he has written. As he himself has stated, many are ignorant or more kindly put, lack knowledge in this area and your postings have done a great job in presenting the other side where Fayyed himself lacks knowledge. Thanks again.

DJ

i just think it is funny to see how many ignorant and intolerant comments result from one fayyad sbaihat article. almost everyone who posted a comment on here owes it to themselves to make a muslim/arab or jewish friend and open your minds. fayyad presents one invaluable side of a story that must be understood entirely to find a viable solution.

Palestinians arrest, then free Hamas men

May 3, 7:25 AM (ET)

By Nidal al-Mughrabi

GAZA (Reuters) - Palestinian police, enforcing a ceasefire with Israel, arrested two men from a suspected Hamas rocket squad after a gun battle in the Gaza Strip but freed the militants soon after, officials said on Tuesday.

Commenting on the release, Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said Israeli-Palestinian reconciliation could succeed only if the Palestinian Authority mounted a “continuous, ongoing effort against the terrorists.”

“If we start seeing a revolving door, as we saw in the past … this would not be a good sign,” Regev said, alluding to Israeli complaints that Palestinian authorities under the late Yasser Arafat released suspected militants too quickly.

Hamas said the pair detained in the northern Gaza Strip were not planning to fire rockets but confirmed that they were armed — defying a recent order that only Palestinian security forces should carry weapons on the streets.

The clash late on Monday was the first between Palestinian police and militants since Arafat’s successor, President Mahmoud Abbas, ordered an “iron fist” crackdown on April 28. Rocket fire into Israel has become much rarer but it has not stopped.

News of the incident, which coincided with renewed calls by Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon for Abbas to disarm militants to meet the terms of the U.S.-backed peace “road map,” sent tension soaring in Gaza, Hamas’s main powerbase.

Palestinian Interior Ministry spokesman Toufiq Abu Khoussa said the men were let go on Tuesday following intervention by an Egyptian official in Gaza.

In return for their freedom, the two militants, promised to abide by an agreement that militant factions reached with Abbas in Cairo in March to respect the ceasefire the Palestinian leader declared along with Sharon in February, Abu Khoussa said.

GUNFIGHT

Describing the clash, Abu Khoussa said, a third militant had escaped arrest: “The three were in a car, en route to fire rockets, when police waved for them to stop. Gunmen opened fire at the police, forcing policemen to fire back.

“Policemen controlled the situation, took away the car, arrested the gunmen and took away their arms,” he said, adding that the third man ran away and avoided the police.

A Palestinian security official said police found rockets in the vehicle.

The Hamas gunmen accused the police of opening fire first and said there was no plan to launch rockets. Another militant group, Islamic Jihad, said it carried out a rocket attack on Israel from nearby shortly before the Hamas men were arrested.

Hamas, which is sworn to destroying Israel, said it was committed to “maintaining calm” and accused the Palestinian Authority of trying to curry favor with Washington at the expense of local unity.

Israel rejects Abbas’s approach that it is better to use persuasion than force to get the militants to stop attacks. Sharon has refused to hold peace negotiations until the militant Palestinian factions have been dismantled.

Abbas has pledged to ensure quiet during Israel’s planned withdrawal from settlements in the Gaza Strip this summer to end 38 years of occupation. The pullout has been hailed as a possible step toward reviving peace negotiations.

http://reuters.excite.com/article/20050503/2005-05-03T112508Z01N03227710R TRIDST0_INTERNATIONAL-MIDEAST-DC.html

Fayyad is on record in support of suicide bombing and other forms of terrorism directed against Israeli Jews.

What is the point of “making friends” with someone who wants to kill my cousins purely because they were born Israeli? Why would I want to make freinds with someone who has sworn and publicized his intention to kill me?

First, Fayyad needs to repudiate his commitment to destroy Israel in order to install a Palestinian government “From the River to the Sea.” When he and other Palestinians are as ready to accept Israel, as Israelis are to accept the 22 Arab Muslim states that now exist in the world, we can have peace.

I’m sorry, I’m “misinformed”? “Morally bankrupt”?

Tell me, Fayyad, what happened when the Palestinian spokesperson Saeb Erekat claimed on April 17, 2002, that the Israeli army massacred 500 civilians in Jenin, and repeated that claim a few days later while adding that he would be the first person to publicly admit he was wrong if Amnesty International, the UN, and the Red Cross demonstrated that he was wrong? What happened after all three organizations confirmed that the number of dead was more like 20, and that each was a heavily armed combatant (better known as a terrorist)? Erekat still claims that 500 civilians were killed.

And why is it that Al-Hayat al-Jadeeda printed on May 15, 1997, that Israel infects Palestinians with the HIV virus? You know that’s not true either, so by any reasonable standard, the claim is slanderous. And since its intent is to incite genocidal hatred, I don’t understand how you can call me “misinformed” or “morally bankrupt” without directing even stronger and much more deserved epithets at the Palestinian newswriters in question.

And more recently, just last week (April 28), the official Palestinian news agency, WAFA, claimed that Israel uses a radiation machine at checkpoints to spy on Palestinians and that said device killed a 55 year old Palestinian woman. Never mind that the “device” in question is actually a non-intrusive radio wave device, used to detect weapons hidden under clothes (and don’t even try to tell me Palestinians don’t do that — it’s one of the first things they teach the small proportion of their population stupid enough and hateful enough to become a terrorist in the first place) without resorting to physical contact. The device is used to preserve modesty (for example, so that a Palestinian woman would not have to be physically searched by a male Israeli soldier, thus respecting the cultural and religious sensibilities of the person being searched) and reduce the risk of physical confrontation between Israeli soldiers and people passing through checkpoints. So the Palestinian press gets to tell the boldest of lies and effectively incite violence against innocent Israelis, but you think the defenders of Israel are “misinformed” and “morally bankrupt”?

You make me sick. We’ll all be better off without your bullshit polluting our environment next year.

Kol ode balevav P’nimah Nefesh Yehudi homiyah Ulfa’atey mizrach kadimah Ayin l’tzion tzofiyah Ode lo avdah tikvatenu Hatikvah bat shnot alpayim: L’hiyot am chofshi b’artzenu Eretz Tzion v’Yerushalayim

Fayyad, I’m pretty sure you once worked as a bellhop at the Waldorf Astoria back in 1988. That face is unmistakably familiar!

Without getting inot the particulars of a terrible politicla situation I can say this: Jews deserve their own country, but putting it in the middle of the place in the world that has hated them most for thousands of years seeme like a dumb idea to me.

I understand it is Jewish holy land, but it was Germany that committed the genocide. If anyone should have lost their land to a Jewish sate it should have been Germany.

It was a poor decision to take away one people’s land so that we could solve the problem of another. Two wrongs don’t make a right and this is why this situation will continue to go on until everyone is dead.

“I can say this: Jews deserve their own country, but putting it in the middle of the place in the world that has hated them most for thousands of years seeme like a dumb idea to me.”

Hey idiot, Israel has ALWAYS been a Jewish homeland. Christians and Muslims overran it for nearly 2000 years. In 1948 it became the Jewish state it once was. Learn some history, plowboy!

“Fayyad is on record in support of suicide bombing and other forms of terrorism directed against Israeli Jews. “

Show me the record, a creadible source, do you have any?

“Show me the record, a creadible source, do you have any?”

How about from the horse’s ass’s mouth himself? Search through the BH archives and it won’t take you long to find where Fayyad said he supported suicide bombing. Also, these conferences he’s been organizing have as part of their platform that suicide bombings and terrorism against Israeli Jews are righteous.

“Show me the record, a creadible source, do you have any?”

How about Fayyad claiming that Ariel Sharon is responsible for killing Israelis through Palestinian terrorist bombings?

http://badgerherald.com/oped/2004/01/30/bombinginjerusalem.php

In that same article, Fayyad claims that the “incursion” in question was unprovoked. He completely ignores the events of January 14, when members of Hamas strapped an explosive belt to the body a young Palestinian mother, who then entered an Israeli checkpoint and blew herself up, murdering four border guards and wounding Jews and Arabs alike. Hamas publicly celebrated this despicable act.

Imagine if a terrorist group sent a suicide bomber to kill American border guards at one of the crossings into the US. Imagine that the bomber succeeded in his or her task and murdered American citizens protecting our border. Imagine that our government knew exactly where to find the terrorists who planned the attack, and also knew they were planning more attacks. Imagine that the terrorists were just across the border in Canada, but the Canadian government refused to do anything to stop them.

I’m sure there are many people on this campus who think such a situation would not justify an attack by US soldiers on the terrorists, but those people lack the good sense God gave most of us. Those of us with more sense would be pissed off if our government didn’t kill all the terrorists, just as we’re pissed off that BushCo still haven’t found Osama bin Laden after almost four years. And if you think I’m wrong, you’re welcome to take a trip to the Middle East and see firsthand what the real situation is.

The Palestinian groups Fayyad supports are terrorists. If there concerns were really about justice, they wouldn’t launch attacks with bombs, they would use guns. Palestinian terrorists could then specifically target the people they allege to be oppressing them, Israeli soldiers, rather than murdering indiscriminately. But the fact is that Palestinian terrorists use bombs because they simply don’t care who they kill. Why should they? They know that most people either hate Jews enough or are too stupid to know better than to assign blame to anyone other than the sons of whores and pigs who commit such murderous acts.

Hey idiot, Israel has ALWAYS been a Jewish homeland. Christians and Muslims overran it for nearly 2000 years. In 1948 it became the Jewish state it once was. Learn some history, plowboy!”

Just because a people lived in a country thousands of years ago doesn’t mean that they deserve a country there. By your logic we should all leave the US to the Native Americans and go back to our countries of origin since it is their homeland and we have overrun it.

You’re the idiot. A Jewish homeland in Europe would have made a lot more sense. How does it make any sense to punish the Palestinians for what the Germans did in WWII? I’de be pretty pissed if they turned Wisconsin over to the Kurds because Saddam Hussein gassed them. It doesn’t make the gassing rigt, but nor does it justify taking away other people’s land. And you certainly gotta expect that the people who you are displacing are pissed.

Israel is a massive human rights debacle. The terrorists are thugs, but that doesn’t make what Israel does right.

But don’t dare criticize israel…or you will be branded an anti-semite as they hide behind the holocaust.

Fayyad’s support for terrorism:

Fayyad was co-chair of the Palestine Solidarity Movement National Coference at Duke in Oct. 2004. the PSM has a plank in its “principles” endorsing suicide bombing and terrorism generally as a legitimate “tactic” and “strategy.”

There was a proposal on the floor to remove the plank and condemn terroriam

It was voted down to loud applause.

Fayyad is also a leader of the more radical Al Awda, a gorup that does not even bother to couch its outright support for terrorism in mealy-mouthed language.

I always thought Fayyed was Jewish. Guess not!

“But don’t dare criticize israel…or you will be branded an anti-semite as they hide behind the holocaust.”

Uh, I believe it’s people like you who are doing the hiding.

“How does it make any sense to punish the Palestinians for what the Germans did in WWII?”

Hey historically-ignorant moron, The Palestinians were being punished for what they did to Jewish refugees after WWII. They and the British were trying to keep Jewish refugees out. Their efforts were all rooted in centuries-old Jew-hatred.

“Does he truly drive a BMW? What model? Does anyone have a photo posted somewhere.”

An X5, I think, it’s an SUV, he has a silver one that looks brand new. Dunno of a picture, but he lives on LAngdon, it’s easy to spot him leaving his apartment, stock him to the car and take a pic, that would some scandal for the PSM, ha? Or get a few pics of him in a club with alcohol and chicks, that would make him loose his Saudi funding.

So if you try to migrate to a country, as a refugee, and you don’t feel too welcome, you take over the country, drive it’s population out, ethinicly cleanse it, destroy villages, kill people, and declare your own state over the land in a matter of weeks?

Assuming that what you say was true. But it is not, Palestinians welcomed the Jews, because they felt sympathy to what was visitied up on them in Germany, they took them in and allowed many htousands to settle. Little did the unsuspecting Palestinians know that these immegrants were mostly terrioris-organized, run-away from the law in Europe, arriving with massive weapon caches, and had a long planned startegy of stealing the land from its owners, ethnicly cleans it, and decalre thier own state.

The US turned away Jewish immegrant ships off of its coasts, Palestine never did.

When I say show me a record, I don’t mean your analysis, moron. About Sharon, that is Fayyad’s analysis, show me a qoute where he supports terrorists. And the other post about he PSM and AL Awda, show me the exact text that supports terroists, from their websites or mission statements, not from some zionists weblog.

“Little did the unsuspecting Palestinians know…”

So over a thousand years of the Jews saying “Next year in Jerusalem” wasn’t enough of a clue?

Why are there so many palis living in Jordan? Why can’t palis living there give their land to their children when they die?Why don’t other A-rab nations extend an olive branch to their fellow A-rabs and invite them to their A-rab dominated countries? Oh yea, they hate the “road pasta palis” and just want to use them as a tool to murder jews and sway public opinion. Didn’t rich A-rab land owners sell parts of swamp-ridden Israel to the jews because they thought the land was worthless? Aren’t jews also known as “israelites?” Where is “israel” again?

BREAKING NEWS

from al-reuters 12:23pm 5/6/05

This morning, hundreds of American provided jets, tanks, and shells zoomed into “occupied territories” and obliterated every shred of “Palestinian” land. Saeb Erekat, was in Jerusalem meeting with Ariel Sharon at the time and might be one of a few thousand remaining Palestinians. The rest, have been brutally slaughtered by the Israeli war machine that has been fortified for decades by the Americans. Abdul Muhammad Malik Abu Zabu Ishmael, a Palestinian “businessman” said that, “finally the world has undeniable proof of Israeli aggression and inhumanity.” He went on to suggest that pinpoint attacks on Hamas leaders who positioned themselves near schools and hospitals to ramp up civilian casualties, paled in comparison to the latest Israeli tactics. “We thought that killing shieks and bulldozing homes that raised suicide bombers was worthy of condemnation, but finally the Israelis deserve some real bloodshed. It’s too bad all the Palestinians in Gaza, and the West bank have perished.” Later, fighting back tears of joy for his martyred brethren, he suggested that he didn’t know how to fight back. “For years, we have targeted Jewish teenagers, and women at pizza shops and discoteques for their hienous crimes against us. Some suggested that our acts were too aggressive and heartless, now where are those people?”

gee, that’s sad. i guess the israelis really are commiting war crimes…i never thought they were until that story.

i hear jews aren’t real popular in france these days

Or ever! Then again, the French don’t like too many people…they hate the English, Spanish, Germans, Americans…In fact, I think you have to be a small pretty country in the carribean or africa to draw their attention. Either that, or invade them with panzer tanks, or an influx of muslims…then they love you.

“So if you try to migrate to a country, as a refugee…The US turned away Jewish immegrant ships off of its coasts, Palestine never did.”

Wrong. The Palestinians AND the British didn’t want ANY Jewish refugees. And the Palestinians became marginalized because they tried to drive Jewish refugees from Israel. The British, for their part, were simply forced to leave. Also, those Jewish refugees weren’t wanted criminals in the sense that they did anything wrong, only that they were to be exterminated by the Nazis as part of Hitler’s racial purification program. And they did not arrive in Israel with massive weapons caches either, bonehead. They arrived with practically nothing. Whatever military armaments they needed they either had to capture from the British or they were smuggled in from sympathetic countries, which didn’t happen until after Israel officially became a state.

Look, you can write your own little distortion of Middle-East history if you want, but there are those who have actually studied Middle-East history and know significantly more than you. Your only hope is that people who don’t know any better will blindly trust your word. As for the rest of us who did research on the subject, we will always be waiting for liars like you. Get used to it.

BREAKING NEWS

from al-reuters 12:23pm 5/6/05

This morning, hundreds of American provided jets, tanks, and shells zoomed into “occupied territories” and obliterated every shred of “Palestinian” land…

I checked Reuters news page thoroughly and no such event is taking place. The only thing happening there is a Palestinian election, with Fatah leading and Hamas gaining a few seats. The Israelis aren’t even tripping!

Do you honestly take all us readers for idiots?!

“Then again, the French don’t like too many people…they hate the English, Spanish, Germans, Americans…”

And NO ONE likes the French! Remember that.

the only readers that are idiots are the ones that took that little article as truth. Catch the sarcasm. Come on people, think when you read.

“And NO ONE likes the French!”

Some in Europe still remember a guy they called “Boney” who led large groups of Frenchmen in a campagn of rape and pillage that lasted for many years. They were feared warriors. I guess all those genes were culled from the French gene pool, seems that cheese- eating surrender monkeys are all that are left.

somebody actually went to al-reuters to look for the story! lmao. no, it was a mockery of the minimal amount of israeli aggression compared to what it could be given the palestinian’s reliance on terror. moreover, it mocks those who declare israel to be a war-mongering state with a wake up call that israel could be much more deadly if it weren’t a peace loving nation.

“somebody actually went to al-reuters to look for the story! lmao.”

Well, it was hard to tell if you were just joking. I’ll just take it that you WERE joking and leave it at that.

the story had subtle pro-israeli views, clearly not al-reuters material… also, didn’t this give it away? “Abdul Muhammad Malik Abu Zabu Ishmael, a Palestinian “businessman””

or, the complete absurdity of the story in general? and isn’t the absurdity of the story enough to end the apartheid, darfur, holocaust comparisons of israeli defense?

So how come the FBI isn’t on this guys ass yet, if he is so linked to so many different organizations?

cuz those orgs. don’t kill americans yet. and cuz the fbi is lost.

“So how come the FBI isn’t on this guys ass yet, if he is so linked to so many different organizations?”

Probably because he has a following here in Madison, and the FBI is just waiting for him to do something illegal. So far he hasn’t, he’s just being a hatemongering asshole. Can’t do much about that except ignore him.

why do jews act so weird…it’s not like all lutherans act weird

“…it’s not like all lutherans act weird”

So you’ve never been to MN?

“why do jews act so weird…it’s not like all lutherans act weird”

Ah, but first you must define “weird.” What one considers weird another would consider normal. It’s just like this one tractate I read in the Talmud where…

“…it’s not like all lutherans act weird”

Lutherans ARE weird. And Catholics are totalitarians, Baptists are hopeless literalists, Presbyterians are disgustingly complacent, Episcopalians are just plain stupid, AME’s are…well, they’re OK, I guess, and those Seventh Day Adventists think they’re so friggin’ cooler than all the other Protestant Christians, God do they ever make me wanna barf!

Etc., etc.

“Do you honestly take all us readers for idiots?!”

No, just you.

Idiot.

I live in Minnesota…no jews here.

“Assuming that what you say was true. But it is not, Palestinians welcomed the Jews, because they felt sympathy to what was visitied up on them in Germany, they took them in and allowed many htousands to settle.”

So when Ikrima al-Sabri, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem of the time (i.e., the leader of the so-called Palestinians, who also happened to be Yasser Arafat’s uncle) visited with Hitler and encouraged him to keep up the good work murdering Jews in Europe, he was actually expressing his sympathy for the Jews? And when he lobbied the British rulers to issue a White Paper limiting Jewish immigration (actually, he asked them to stop it altogether and kick out some of the Jews who were already there), he was actually allowing them in and letting thousands of them settle?

Are you sure you’re not an idiot?

“”Do you honestly take all us readers for idiots?!”

No, just you.

Idiot.”

Read what he/she wrote again, you idiot. I read it and it sounds to me like that poster is too smart to be fooled by the BS he/she was responding to. So who’s the idiot now?

pee pee in my weiner

“pee pee in my weiner”

Get thee to a bathroom! And be quick about it, matey!

Here’s morally bankrupt:

Health Officials Say Gulf Nations Should Give More to Fight Polio

With polio surging rapidly through Muslim countries, public health officials trying to eradicate it are expressing frustration that wealthy Islamic nations contribute so little to the effort, despite repeated requests.

Fighting the disease has cost nearly $4 billion since the eradication campaign began in 1985, and the campaign is urgently trying to raise another $250 million to handle this year’s new outbreaks, but the Persian Gulf states have given less than $3 million so far.

Stephen Strickland, the chief of polio eradication or the United Nations Foundation, which has contributed $30 million and raised tens of millions more, was more brusque, calling a recent Saudi pledge of $500,000 “peanuts,” and criticizing Kuwait for offering nothing while poor Islamic countries like Chad and Burkina Faso struggle to vaccinate millions of children.

“They could certainly do more,” he said. Because the new outbreak started in Nigerian Muslim communities that resisted vaccination and was apparently spread by pilgrims to Mecca, “you would think they’d take the lead in this,” he added.

The largest donors to polio eradication are Rotary International, which has given more than $600 million since 1985, and the United States, which has given more than $500 million plus the use of staff and laboratory services from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Britain and Japan have given more than $250 million each, and the European Union, Canada, Germany, the Netherlands and the World Bank have given more than $100 million each. Other European countries, Russia, Australia, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and the United Nations Foundation have been major donors.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/07/health/07polio.html

If the jews were such peaceful people they wouldn’t be trying to kill palestinians all the time.

“If the jews were such peaceful people they wouldn’t be trying to kill palestinians all the time.”

Gosh, you Madison liberals just can’t stop hating, can you? Liberals? I don’t think so.

“If the jews were such peaceful people they wouldn’t be trying to kill palestinians all the time.”

That’s actually true of the Palestinians. Israelis-not Jews-only kill in self-defense. Why do YOU kill? For sport? For sexual gratification? Certainly not for survival, that’s for sure.

this happened yesterday, but i don’t think we’ll hear about it from the main stream media…can anyone name the last time the israelis fired a rocket at a palestinian schoolbus? oh yea, never…

“Palestinians on Friday morning fired an anti-tank rocket on Friday morning at school bus carrying children outside the southern Gaza Strip settlement of Kfar Darom, shaking the fragile lull in violence. The rocket failed to hit the bus.”

i’m sure fayyad would support targeting school children…key word, “targeting”

It’s amazing how Fayyad loves to use Palestinian “suffering” to make his case-assuming he really ever had one-while he sits here in Madison all cushy, getting an education at someone else’s expense.

Fayyad, I really don’t care what the Israelis do to your people anymore. Your people are scum. They deserve to be where they’re at. YOU deserve to be back over there with them, you loser. Lay off the Jews and put the blame for your personal problems where it belongs-on yourself!

Sudan’s suffering makes it look like the the Palestinians are on vacation.

explain the Arab genocide in Darfur; the silence of other Arabs about Arab genocide in Darfur; or the Western media’s silence about Arabs’ silence about Arab genocide in Darfur.

Does Tom Friedman during all his earnest chin-stroking about the problem of terrorism and Arab culture pause to consider that this might be related somehow? Saudi imams get young men inspired to blow themselves up in the middle of Iraqi crowds, but we sure don’t hear too many reports of young Saudi men risking death to stand between Muslim villagers in Darfur and the janjaweed.

What about Nick Kristof, who has access to the same maps of Africa that the rest of us do? Does he wonder that the largest Arab country, directly north of Sudan with a large army and an air force hundreds of planes strong, has never made a move toward establishing, say, a no-fly zone over any part of Darfur? Demanded UN sanctions against Sudan, or imposed any of its own? To be honest, I doubt the idea has even crossed his mind.

http://www.belgraviadispatch.com/archives/004526.html

but seriously, if you were a palestinian how would you feel?

no liberal here…. I voted for BUSH and would again….ironic how us conservatives are the ones who always support israel and the jewish people still hate us??? i don’t get that. i mean seriously, hillary and bill were best of pals with Yassir and his wife….and you know they still got jewish folks to vote for them!

The Truman administration — in an often told tale — was deeply ambivalent, though ultimately American support was vital. On the one hand, as early as June 1945, President Truman adopted a proposal recommending that 100,000 European Jewish refugees be admitted immediately to Palestine. He communicated this to the British government, which remained quite unwilling to implement the proposal on the grounds that this would alienate opinion in the Arab world. (3) Ultimately, President Truman’s support for partition of Palestine and recognition of Israel came at the very last minute and against the advice and wishes of the Departments of State and Defense. At a bitterly contentious White House meeting on May 12, 1948, Truman’s advisor, Clark Clifford, argued strongly for immediate recognition of the Jewish state. However, Secretary of State George C. Marshall was strongly opposed and told Truman that if he “were to follow Mr. Clifford’s advice and if in the election I was to vote, I would vote against the President.” (4) After some confusion and disarray between the White House and the American delegation to the United Nations, the United States did announce de facto recognition only minutes after the announcement of Israel’s existence on May 14, 1948. However, the administration did not at first lift an arms embargo, and an Israeli loan request was, as Steven L. Spiegel notes, delayed by the bureaucracy until January 1949. (1949)

http://meria.idc.ac.il/journal/1998/issue3/jv2n3a2.html

“ironic how us conservatives are the ones who always support israel and the jewish people still hate us???”

Actually, some Jews are liberal and some Jews are conservative. Just because you see one Jew bashing conservatives doesn’t mean there isn’t some conservative Jew somewhere else bashing liberals. Jews don’t necessarily think or act as one cohesive group. They are just as capable of independent thought as any other group.

While Jews may applaud liberals and conservatives who support Israel, they may still disagree with some aspects of foreign policy regarding Israel while agreeing with other aspects. It’s not all cut and dried all the time.

Aside from the few (very few) reasoned responses, and the guy who had to use the lavatory, don’t any of you have something in you besides anger and hatred?

Not once, not ONCE in my four years at this school have I heard ANYONE say something good about BOTH sides of this whole thing. You all have been SO quick to deride each others’ intelligence, or hygiene, or just off and prefer the other one dead that no compromise of any sort has ever been offered, or theorized. Or even contemplated.

Both sides’ arguments are propaganda, simply because they are nothing more than “I’m right, they’re wrong.” Both sides need to pull their heads out of their f&#@ing asses and realize that the killing has to stop. Both sides are tragically wrong.

In Christian mythology, Pride is a deadly sin. Pride has killed to many people on both sides. Please, people, give up the fight and start talking rationally. That’s the only way you’ve gotten as far as handshakes in 40 years.

-William Northend

“Not once, not ONCE in my four years at this school have I heard ANYONE say something good about BOTH sides of this whole thing. You all have been SO quick to deride each others’ intelligence, or hygiene, or just off and prefer the other one dead that no compromise of any sort has ever been offered, or theorized. Or even contemplated.”

I think both sides can agree that William Northend is a douchebag and a tool.

“Resolution 5

Al-Awda, the Palestine Right to Return Coalition, affirms its stand by the Iraqi resistance to US, UN and all foreign occupations, as a legitimate right guaranteed by international law.”

I know people fighting over there, Fayyad, so let’s just hope you and I never cross paths.

Speaking of Douche….where is deters

Fine. I’m a douchebag and a tool. (Which is interesting seeing as I can never get into the KK.)

Thing is, by calling me that, you’ve proved my point. Why bother thinking up solutions to problems when you can simply call some else an assdrip and feel a little prouder about yourself for your wit?

And on a sidenote, why are douchebags used as insults, when used jockstraps are just as nasty?

-WN

-WN

“In Christian mythology, Pride is a deadly sin. Pride has killed to many people on both sides.”

Enough about Christian mythology. Here’s a little truth about Christian history, Billy Boy:

Christians were decidedly the first anti-Semites. History is long on accounts of Christians persecuting Jews. Remember the old passion plays? They were put on for the sole purpose of inciting hatred of Jews. Whole Jewish villages were burned and pillaged. Whole Jewish populations were either murdered en mass or expelled from the country.

Ever heard of the old Blood Libel? Christians, particularly Catholics, started that crap!

So take your self-righteous B.S. and shove it, ya midwestern plowboy piece of shit!

“And on a sidenote, why are douchebags used as insults, when used jockstraps are just as nasty?”

You heard it here first, folks! Billy Bob Northend admitted he is a used jockstrap!

If Christians were the first Anti-semites, then what do you call all those wonderful little killing sprees and slavery parties thrown by the Egyptians and Philistines? Your accusation, though true in the degree of what was done, is still a bit misguided.

Look, have your people been through copious amounts of s* over the years? Hell yes. I don’t think you can open to any two page spread of the first testament without some Israelite somewhere getting pissed on in some fashion. The third human ever CREATED was murdered for God’s sake. Is there still prejudice against your people to this very day? F#&% yeah. It’s downright scary how household the word “Skinhead” has become.

But bear in mind that Christians (Peter and Paul hardly died of old age), Buddhists (Boy are those Tibetans a lucky bunch), Hindus (Oh, yeah, EVERYTHING out of that English occupation was a good thing, right?), and, yes, even Muslims have been had cartloads of misery dumped over their heads over the past centuries. Yes, they had homelands to go back to for strength and you didn’t. I’m sorry. In it’s purpose, Israel is a wonderful thing. But because of all the religious hatred surrounding it, it’s become a tragic thing as well.

And it’s that hatred that I’m speaking against. I’m sorry if I sound self-righteous. I supposed I do. But insulting someone condemning religious hatred doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.

And come on…Billy Bob? If that freak of an actor came from this state, I’ll happily move.

-WN

So let me get this straight. Jews recognize Christians as the enemy, but for the mean time they bite their roung and shut up so that they can con christians into helping them steal land from arabs and muslims, and opress them while at it. The whole siraeli arsenal is supplied by our military and our tax payers’ money, after that we still have to deal with an age of Jews “remembering” that we are the original anti-semites?

Wisconsin is a Nazi state.

“If Christians were the first Anti-semites, then what do you call all those wonderful little killing sprees and slavery parties thrown by the Egyptians and Philistines?”

That was before Judaism, idiot!

“So let me get this straight. Jews recognize Christians as the enemy, but for the mean time they bite their roung and shut up so that they can con christians into helping them steal land from arabs and muslims, and opress them while at it.”

Wrong. Muslims stole it from Christians, who before stole it from Jews. Try reading a little history before you make an ignorant pig of yourself!

“The whole siraeli arsenal is supplied by our military and our tax payers’ money, after that we still have to deal with an age of Jews “remembering” that we are the original anti-semites?”

Americans are the original anti-Semites? Hell, America wasn’t even around yet! What the F#@* are you talking about?! Of course, I’d like to know why it took the attack on Pearl Harbor to convince Americans that the Axis powers(Germany, Italy and Japan) were a real threat to world peace and that Americans would no longer be able to assume an isolationist position.

Do any of you redneck assholes bother to read anything about world history? It would obviously help. Or at least it would make you far less likely to look stupid. And God, are you people ever stupid!

“Wisconsin is a Nazi state.”

Damn right it is! Let’s hope Michigan and Minnesota kick their butts next year. That’ll give these cheddarheads something to think about!

“That was before Judaism, idiot!”

Actually, that was only before Judaism in its current form, but that’s hardly the point.

And technically, anti-Semitism didn’t exist until the 1870s, when a political group in Germany declared themselves anti-Semites, declaring their hatred for Jews was based on science — they thought Jews were an inferior race — and not based on religion. See, hating someone for their religious beliefs was considered politically incorrect at that time.

Today, it’s considered politically incorrect to hate people based on their race, too, so people who hate Jews have to turn to some other justification to make their hatred acceptable in civil society. To that end, Jew-haters today are anti-Zionist. See, they hate Jews not because of their religion or their race but because of their insistence on asserting their legitimate right to have their own country in their ancestral homeland and their even more legitimate right to protect themselves against people who would try to kill them.

One of the posters above got it exactly right — if terrorists ever crossed the border from Canada into Wisconsin and blew themselves up on public buses or in shopping centers, Americans would demand that our government hunt down the terrorists’ leaders and comrades and kill every last one of them, and rightfully so. It is hypocritical to demand that the Israelis show greater restraint. And for those of you who would not demand that our government do something to stop the terrorists, you’re no better than the people who stood by and did nothing to stop the genocides in Armenia (by the Turks), Europe (by the Nazis), Rwanda (by the Hutus), and Darfur (by the Janjaweed, who are not coincidentally related in some ways to the Palestinian groups Fayyad works for). And as far as I’m concerned, anyone who stands by and does nothing in the face of genocide shares responsibility for the murders.

YOU HEAR THAT, YOU MORONS? I CALLED YOU MURDERERS! BY YOUR LOGIC, THAT MEANS THE ARMENIANS, JEWS, TUTSIS, AND ANIMISTS AND CHRISTIANS OF SUDAN HAVE THE RIGHT TO KILL YOU NOW BECAUSE YOU WERE HELPED KILL THEM.

Pretty stupid logic, isn’t it?

that’s some fucked up jew “logic”

“And technically, anti-Semitism didn’t exist until the 1870s, when a political group in Germany declared themselves anti-Semites, declaring their hatred for Jews was based on science…”

Wrong. You’re referring to the Jewish race myth, which Hitler adopted from some half-assed anthropologist from Britain.

“BECAUSE YOU WERE HELPED KILL THEM.”

What’s “WERE” doing in this sentence?

“that’s some fucked up jew “logic”“

How do you know this person is Jewish? If it’s pure intuition on your part, then you need to log out and do some book-learnin’ at the library, ya ignorant goof!

I’m curious: Why is it that all you stupid liberals like to bitch about what Israel does in retaliation for terrorist attacks from the Palestinian side of the fence and never about what Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad do? I mean, it’s all well and obvious that these three terrorist organizations are equally responsible for breaking every truce that was ever agreed upon by Israel. They’re also the ones brainwashing young Palestinians into “going out with a bang”, with the promise of $50K for the folks back home and eternity with a paltry 70 virgins, promises that aren’t really fulfilled at all. And yet no one seems to be the slightest bit concerned about confronting them. Is it because you’re afraid they’ll bomb your favorite coffee shop? Is it because you’re afraid you’ll come off as religious conservatives? Is it because your aging hippy profs might stick you with a lesser grade if you don’t agree with his/her/its own ideology? Is it because your friends may not invite you over for another huff around the ol’ huka pipe? I’d hate to think that it’s just a revival of…watch out, I’m gonna say it…RADICAL LEFT-WING JEW-HATRED, THE LIKES OF WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN SEEN SINCE THE STALIN ERA?!

Nah, probably just end-of-the-term jitters. Right?

“that’s some fucked up jew “logic”“

Spoken like a true Madison liberal. Or maybe just a member of the Badger Herald staff who waited all morning for a certain someone to leave the office so they could post it.

“Actually, that was only before Judaism in its current form, but that’s hardly the point.”

No, Judaism did not exist as a religion prior to the future Israelites’ liberation from Egypt. And if it’s hardly the point like you said, then WHY THE F*@% EVEN BRING IT UP?!! FOCUS ON THE POINT YOU’RE TRYING TO MAKE, DAIRY BOY!!

After reading the article and half the posts here, it is all too obvious to me that a degree from UW-Madison isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on. Thank God I transferred to an out-of-state school.

“”And technically, anti-Semitism didn’t exist until the 1870s, when a political group in Germany declared themselves anti-Semites, declaring their hatred for Jews was based on science…”

Wrong. You’re referring to the Jewish race myth, which Hitler adopted from some half-assed anthropologist from Britain.”

Actually, that poster was right. You might want to look up Wilhelm Marr, the key figure in the organization in question. Before Marr, there was only anti-Judaism. After Marr, there was also anti-Semitism.

“that’s some fucked up jew “logic”“

Fucked Up Bigoted Dumbass Logic:

“I don’t like what you said. You must be a Jew.”

If the Jews didn’t hate you for being a racist, they’d certainly hate you for the same reason everyone else hates you: you’re an idiot!

Jew isn’t a race, it’s a weird ass religion.

“Jew isn’t a race, it’s a weird ass religion.”

Actually, ALL religions have a certain degreee of peculiarity about them. No reason to be a smart-ass, kid.

can’t we just lay it on the line and discuss (CPRS) chronic “palestinian” road spaghetti and its morality in comparison to the relatively peace-loving israelis?

“can’t we just lay it on the line and discuss (CPRS) chronic “palestinian” road spaghetti and its morality in comparison to the relatively peace-loving israelis?”

How about this: Destroy Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad. Not only will the Israelis be happy, but the Palestinians will feel liberated for once. No more terroists to recruit their children to perform suicide bombings and the Israelis will chill and there will finally be peace. The terrorists are the ones keeping it going. Eliminate them and people on both sides will be free. That is where it must begin. Vilifying the Israelis or Palestinians as you choose will never accomplish anything. You must always be smarter than the enemy, and the enemy is the terrorists, not the innocents on both sides who fight each other and forget why.

and then what? the jews will just try to screw them over like they do everyone throughout history

“and then what? the jews will just try to screw them over like they do everyone throughout history”

This person wouldn’t know history if it jumped up and kicked him in the ass. The Jews have rarely screwed over anyone in their history. By contrast, my own Catholic Church has made a habit over screwing them over in the past 2000 years or so, and most Protestant denominations have been almost as bad. Not to mention most Muslim groups of the past 1000 years. And since Israel was created 57 years ago, the UN and most of the world has taken extra special care to villify Israel for doing things every other nation does as a matter of routine, even when Israel takes more precautions to preserve human life and dignity than any other nation.

I will never understand why so many people in Madison insist on hating Jews for no reason and loving people who advocate murdering Jews.

That’s because liberals and conservatives in Madison are deranged Nazi pigs. They wouldn’t give a shit about solving a problem, let alone discussing it rationally. Most of the posts here are from stupid college kids who probably won’t even graduate unless the UW decides to lower its standards to that of a Special Ed class. Kinda makes you wonder what kind of leadership Wisconsin will have ten years from now.

But there appears to be a ray of hope. The poster who wrote that terrorists orgs should be confronted first got it right. They must be put out of business before peace can even be possible. Both Israelis and Palestinians would readily agree on that. Terrorists are just as much of a threat to Arab countries as they are to Israel. Both Arabs and Israelis pray for the day when they will be stopped. Most Arabs would rather just leave Israel be and get on with the business of tending to internal crises in their own countries.

Enough of the bashing already. You are all college students. Time to start acting like it.

“and then what? the jews will just try to screw them over like they do everyone throughout history”

Fuck you, cheddarhead! Why don’t we just kill your ass instead? This is the kind of mentality that UW-Madison churns out every year? Maybe I should transfer out of state. God knows I wouldn’t want “University of Wisconsin” printed across MY diploma. No wonder this school has such a hard time recruiting from out-of-state. Pretty soon, This school will go bust. Then all you’ll have is…Whitewater. Ha-ha!

“The Jews have rarely screwed over anyone in their history.”

And precisely when did Jews ever screw anyone at all? Care to explain?

how about their usury in Germany before World War II — how about their manipulation of world financial markets and precious metals…..

oh yeah, we don’t say “jewing” without reason

“how about their usury in Germany before World War II — how about their manipulation of world financial markets and precious metals…..

oh yeah, we don’t say “jewing” without reason”

That was propaganda started by the Nazis, you idiot! The Germans were dumb enough to believe it. How about you, Mr. UW-Madison College Student? The next thing we know, you’re gonna plunge straight into Holocaust denial mode and incur the wrath of your grandparents who served in Europe in WWII.

Yeah, it looks like a degree from UW-Madison isn’t worth a dime these days!

it is a good point though….why do the jews get a free pass on everything….hmmm

“it is a good point though….why do the jews get a free pass on everything….hmmm”

Jews have NEVER gotten a free pass on anything, ya redneck asshole! Your comment is further proof that a UW degree is worthless.

“how about their usury in Germany before World War II…”

Germany’s economic woes were not caused by Jews in any way. They were caused by several other European countries demanding excessive reparation payments from Germany for damages caused by Germany in WWI. France, in particular, was expecially uncaring for the extreme hardship reparation payments created on Germany.

Jews in Germany were mostly doctors, lawyers or worked in the visual/performing arts.

As for the usury charge: Many countries throughout Europe forced Jews to work as money-lenders. They were ordered to charge impossible interest rates and all interest was forwarded to the governing power. If Jews could not collect the loan, it was their tough luck. And they still had to forward whatever interest was due…out of their own pockets. Of course, Jews didn’t work in money-lending for very long. If they ran S&L’s and if they were allowed to run them THEIR way, loan applicants would surely have gotten a better deal.

Nowadays, damn few Jews work in money-lending, so don’t rage at them if that payday loan you got from that check-cashing place is killing you. It’s not run by Jews. As you can see, Jews are very careful to pick and choose their professions so they don’t end up being accused of anything. And the media is certainly not run by Jews either, just because you see a few actors and directors working in Hollywood. And less than 3% of all representatives in local, state and federal governments are Jews.

Any other myths about Jews that anyone would care to submit for discussion?

“how about their usury in Germany before World War II…”

Germany’s economic woes were not caused by Jews in any way. They were caused by several other European countries demanding excessive reparation payments from Germany for damages caused by Germany in WWI. France, in particular, was expecially uncaring for the extreme hardship reparation payments created on Germany.

Jews in Germany were mostly doctors, lawyers or worked in the visual/performing arts.

As for the usury charge: Many countries throughout Europe forced Jews to work as money-lenders. They were ordered to charge impossible interest rates and all interest was forwarded to the governing power. If Jews could not collect the loan, it was their tough luck. And they still had to forward whatever interest was due…out of their own pockets. Of course, Jews didn’t work in money-lending for very long. If they ran S&L’s and if they were allowed to run them THEIR way, loan applicants would surely have gotten a better deal.

Nowadays, damn few Jews work in money-lending, so don’t rage at them if that payday loan you got from that check-cashing place is killing you. It’s not run by Jews. As you can see, Jews are very careful to pick and choose their professions so they don’t end up being accused of anything. And the media is certainly not run by Jews either, just because you see a few actors and directors working in Hollywood. And less than 3% of all representatives in local, state and federal governments are Jews.

Any other myths about Jews that anyone would care to submit for discussion?

Judging the state of the entire UW-Madison based on the Badger Herald message board is far more ignorant than most of the ridiculous posting going on.

“Judging the state of the entire UW-Madison based on the Badger Herald message board is far more ignorant than most of the ridiculous posting going on.”

The fact that the posts are made by students-most of ‘em, anyway-and the fact that the Badger Herald actually allows them to be posted is sufficient enough to judge the university as a whole accordingly. What else need be said?

That’s such bullshit…jews have been fucking people over for centuries.

“Wisconsin is a Nazi state.”

Yeah, that explains why we have to Jewish senators.

“That’s such bullshit…jews have been fucking people over for centuries.”

You know, most people would take you for a right-wing extremist, but considering that this is Madison, Wisconsin, you could just as well be a left-winger.

Of course, you could also be an employee of the Badger Herald. THAT would certainly explain everything.

Please do not judge all of the UW by the posters, my brother and many friends attended UW and never ended up with the issues these people have, despite the Professors attempts to indoctrinate them. The one thing i find amazing is how many people i know who were bleeding heart liberals during college and for a few years after graduation, but after a few years in the real world change their political leanings.

It’s no wonder that Jews would be so persecuted. Every time a civilization has some kind of crisis, they always find someone to scapegoat. Jews are almost always scapegoated simply because they are so few in number. And since there are so few of them, it is absurd that anyone would blame them for problems that such a small demographic could not possibly cause. Lots of morons like to accuse Jews of world domination. Come on, how could a people barely 1/100th of 1% of the world’s population pull off such a grandiose scheme?!

OPEC countries love to blame Jews and Israel for the oil crisis the West is having, but where’s the proof? When has Israel ever bombed an oil-drilling site or a pipeline? What Jewish interest has ever attempted to meddle in petroleum markets to up the price of a barrel of crude?

So if Jews are to blame for so many problems, who else is on the shit list? Blame Native Americans for compulsive gambling if you keep losing your paychecks at the casinos? You’d have the same problem in Las Vegas. Stop gambling! Who would you blame for your problem with alcohol or drugs? You, that’s who! You got yourself hooked, you can jolly well stagger on down to the rehab clinic and get yourself unhooked!

Not enough rational thinking in this world, that’s the problem. That’s why there’s no cure for cancer. That’s why there’s no balanced budget. That’s why wacko dictators stay in power for so long. That’s why our nation’s colleges and universities are churning out idiots. That’s why we’ll never figure out a way to fuck while running at full speed.

Now back to square one. Put the blame where it belongs. If all the Jews in the world disappeared, you’d still have to pay a ton o’ bucks to fill your tank, you’d still get cancer, you still may not get laid next weekend, and you’ll sure as heck still have to pay off those doggone student loans! There’ll still be wars, famines, disease and acne. There’ll still be taxes, bills, spam e-mail and losing seasons for your team. There’ll still be other students whose grammar, spelling and punctuation are way friggin’ better than yours. There’ll still be crossword puzzles you won’t be able to solve completely. There’ll still be holes in the ozone, mediocre movies and TV sitcoms, dropout on your sound card when you try to record audio, and the fact that the hot-looking babe you’ve been eyeing for the past two weeks is a lesbian after all and you ain’t gettin’ any, stud muffin!

Jews deal with a lot of the same problems everyone else deals with, plus they often take the blame for crap they’ve got nothing to do with. Stuck in traffic? Check out the Jewish guy two cars back. Surprise! He’s stuck there too! Not only that, he has to listen to losers like you bitch out your car window about “those pinhead Jewish urban planners whose dumb ideas caused citywide traffic to bottleneck here!” Hey, at least you’re two cars ahead of him. Does that make you feel better? Got a tattoo you’re having second thoughts about? Lots of Holocaust survivors have tattoos they didn’t have any choice about.

So 1) put the blame where it belongs and 2)count your blessings. The world had problems before Jews came along and it’d still have problems if they left. The only difference is that you won’t have the Goldsteins down the street to blame anymore for the weeds on your front lawn, Mr. and Mrs. Urban Warrior. hee-hee-ha-ha! Deal with it.

It’s no wonder that Jews would be so persecuted. Every time a civilization has some kind of crisis, they always find someone to scapegoat. Jews are almost always scapegoated simply because they are so few in number. And since there are so few of them, it is absurd that anyone would blame them for problems that such a small demographic could not possibly cause. Lots of morons like to accuse Jews of world domination. Come on, how could a people barely 1/100th of 1% of the world’s population pull off such a grandiose scheme?!

OPEC countries love to blame Jews and Israel for the oil crisis the West is having, but where’s the proof? When has Israel ever bombed an oil-drilling site or a pipeline? What Jewish interest has ever attempted to meddle in petroleum markets to up the price of a barrel of crude?

So if Jews are to blame for so many problems, who else is on the shit list? Blame Native Americans for compulsive gambling if you keep losing your paychecks at the casinos? You’d have the same problem in Las Vegas. Stop gambling! Who would you blame for your problem with alcohol or drugs? You, that’s who! You got yourself hooked, you can jolly well stagger on down to the rehab clinic and get yourself unhooked!

Not enough rational thinking in this world, that’s the problem. That’s why there’s no cure for cancer. That’s why there’s no balanced budget. That’s why wacko dictators stay in power for so long. That’s why our nation’s colleges and universities are churning out idiots. That’s why we’ll never figure out a way to fuck while running at full speed.

Now back to square one. Put the blame where it belongs. If all the Jews in the world disappeared, you’d still have to pay a ton o’ bucks to fill your tank, you’d still get cancer, you still may not get laid next weekend, and you’ll sure as heck still have to pay off those doggone student loans! There’ll still be wars, famines, disease and acne. There’ll still be taxes, bills, spam e-mail and losing seasons for your team. There’ll still be other students whose grammar, spelling and punctuation are way friggin’ better than yours. There’ll still be crossword puzzles you won’t be able to solve completely. There’ll still be holes in the ozone, mediocre movies and TV sitcoms, dropout on your sound card when you try to record audio, and the fact that the hot-looking babe you’ve been eyeing for the past two weeks is a lesbian after all and you ain’t gettin’ any, stud muffin!

Jews deal with a lot of the same problems everyone else deals with, plus they often take the blame for crap they’ve got nothing to do with. Stuck in traffic? Check out the Jewish guy two cars back. Surprise! He’s stuck there too! Not only that, he has to listen to losers like you bitch out your car window about “those pinhead Jewish urban planners whose dumb ideas caused citywide traffic to bottleneck here!” Hey, at least you’re two cars ahead of him. Does that make you feel better? Got a tattoo you’re having second thoughts about? Lots of Holocaust survivors have tattoos they didn’t have any choice about.

So 1) put the blame where it belongs and 2)count your blessings. The world had problems before Jews came along and it’d still have problems if they left. The only difference is that you won’t have the Goldsteins down the street to blame anymore for the weeds on your front lawn, Mr. and Mrs. Urban Warrior. hee-hee-ha-ha! Deal with it.

“The one thing i find amazing is how many people i know who were bleeding heart liberals during college and for a few years after graduation, but after a few years in the real world change their political leanings.”

Yeah, but that’s just it. They take too long to grow up. Mentally, they’re stuck in 7th grade. Emotionally, they’re still in what Freud called the anal phase, meaning they’re hands are still stuck up their asses. Conservatives have a similar hang-up, except that they’re hands are usually stuck up someone else’s ass.

as long as it’s not a gay man’s ass.

“as long as it’s not a gay man’s ass.”

Sorry, but gay men aren’t safe from the cold, far-reaching hands of a conservative either.

“Any other myths about Jews that anyone would care to submit for discussion?”

Ever hear the one about how Jews are behind some grand conspiracy to take over the world and that they control the media and the economy?

I wish I had that kind of power. Should I sign my post “Elder of Zion in Training”?

“Ever hear the one about how Jews are behind some grand conspiracy to take over the world and that they control the media and the economy?”

That myth was already dispelled in an earlier post.

“Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion” is some fictitious crap, presumably made up by some 19th century Russian Army officers so the czar could have some bullshit pretext to persecute Jews. Apparently he somehow felt threatened by the fact that Jews exist, or perhaps he needed to justify his own attempt to scapegoat them for God-knows-what. And this was long before anyone ever thought of starting a communist revolution to oust him.

Hey, just in case anyone mentions that Karl Marx was a Jew, he was only Jewish until he was six years old, when his dad decided they were going to become Lutherans instead. Eventually he became a full-blown atheist and never reconciled to the Jewish faith.

Just trying to stop another myth before it starts.

jews control the media and try to act as the world’s thought police

where exactly do you get off trying to play jew victim 24/7? oh, and….”former staffer” would be my status

“jews control the media and try to act as the world’s thought police”

Nope, that’s what propagandists like you are trying to accomplish. You’re the ones who try to force ideas down other people’s throats, and kill them if they don’t go along with you.

I guess if Fayyad wanted to find a group of idiots to be his following, he’d try UW-Madison. After all, there’s an abundance of idiots here.

“where exactly do you get off trying to play jew victim 24/7? oh, and….”former staffer” would be my status”

Ah, “former Staffer”. Nice to know that you are out of a job…wait a minute…Pat Klemz, is that you? My God! Pat Klemz is out of work! Ha Ha Ha!

“and the fact that the hot-looking babe you’ve been eyeing for the past two weeks is a lesbian after all and you ain’t gettin’ any, stud muffin!”

That’s another thing the Jews have been unfairly blamed for! Jews don’t control all the pussy in the world, lesbians do. We must destroy the lesbian paradigm before they successfully implement the secret agenda meticulously outlined in “The Protocols Of The Elders Of The Universal Lesbian Sisterhood”…just kidding. Lesbians are the most, really. Cheers!

nah, I am just fucking with you…it’s easy to stir up the jewish ppl. No, I am not “Klemz.” I am alumni - 2001.

“nah, I am just fucking with you…it’s easy to stir up the jewish ppl. No, I am not “Klemz.” I am alumni - 2001.”

And you still haven’t grown up yet. It’s also easy for the Jewish people to kick your ass. Do you think they want to be any closer to another Holocaust? Sure, you’re just “fucking” with someone, but if push goes to shove, watch out. You’re gonna get your head smashed, farm boy. You are “fucking” with some folks who’ve been through the worst hell imaginable, and they aren’t gonna let it happen again.

hmmm “farm boy” How did you know? Because I didn’t. From where I am sitting all I see is the skyline of Minneapolis. Of course, I suppose to a NY jew that’s a farm…well that and any place that isn’t stinky, crime-ridden and over populated.

And why would one assume the suffering of a previous generation for oneself?

If you’ll notice in my last post I refer to Jews in the third person, meaning that I am not one. And for you to assume that I am from NY clearly shows that you are an idiot. Also the fact that you have the mentality of a 3rd-grader shows that you are indeed a redneck asshole from the Midwest, which is typical in this region.

“From where I am sitting all I see is the skyline of Minneapolis.”

So you’re from the twin cities, eh? Isn’t that the home of many a white supremacist group, namely the National Socialist Movement and the now-defunct Panzerfaust Records? My, what “positive influences” they seem to be on your way of thinking. It certainly explains your anti-Jewish disposition.

By the way, Minneapolis is every bit as filthy and smelly and crime-ridden as any other major U.S. city, so what do you have to brag about?

“Also the fact that you have the mentality of a 3rd-grader…”

Who said that guy has the mentality of a third grader? Don’t you think you’re not giving third graders enough credit? Even most kindergartners know better than to emulate a piece of crap like that guy!

“Even most kindergartners know better than to emulate a piece of crap like that guy!”

Yeah, that’s what YOU think, bucko! Obviously you aren’t aware of the 3rd-graders’ global conspiracy to take over the world using Super-Soakers. Did you know that the little twerps have just figured out a way to rig a Sony PSP to hack into government defense computers? Oh yeah! They finally fgured it out. You just watch, pal. Before you know it, they’ll be using their iPods to buy stuff online-using YOUR credit card number.

Think you’re safe? Think it ain’t happenin’? Just watch, someday when you’re scrubbing their toilets at gunpoint, you’ll wish you’d wised up to ‘em a long time ago. And then what’re you gonna do? And then one day when they decide you’re too ugly to look at, you be standing there tied to a stake while a bunch of snot-nosed 9-year-olds are doin’ a war dance before they light you up. If only you’d listened sooner. If only!

oh joy, now some damn greedy jew wants to buy the Vikings…..no doubt they will run the team into the ground with their cheapskate antics.

“oh joy, now some damn greedy jew wants to buy the Vikings…..no doubt they will run the team into the ground with their cheapskate antics.”

Really? How much better were they when a Gentile owned the team? Hey, some of the best CEOs and producers and directors in Hollywood are Jews. Just because they run a business better than you doesn’t mean you need to be jealous, plowboy. Envy is just a loser spinning his wheels in the mud.

keep trying to justify your gold digging

Instead of singing the National Anthem before a Vikings game, they’ll sing Ha Tikva. Ha ha ha ha!

“Alliance of misinformed, morally bankrupt supporting Israel” the title reads.

Fayyad, you’d consider us to be misinformed and morally bankrupt whether we support Israel or not! Why should we give a shit about you and your people when the Arab world doesn’t give a shit about ‘em either? Why not just get Jordan or Saudi Arabia to take ‘em in?

Or maybe the real reason nobody cares about any of you is because you’re all a bunch of manic-depressive, passive-agressive psychos who just don’t know when to quit.

“oh joy, now some damn greedy jew wants to buy the Vikings…..no doubt they will run the team into the ground with their cheapskate antics.”

The real naqba is that jackasses like the guy who posted that ^^^^^ were ever born.

You know, anyone who celebrates the bombing of the World Trade Center like the Palestinians did is one bunch of assholes I don’t give a shit about. Fuck ‘em all! And to those of you who bash Jews over the whole thing: Fuck you too! What a bunch of pussies! First some wacko dictator in Europe tries to exterminate them, then they get their own country, then a bunch of uppity Arabs try to stop them, The Jews defend themselves, and now all the Arabs in the world are whining because for once Jews are able to fight back. Crybabies!

I’ll tell ya, I don’t get all worked up every time I read in the news about Israel tearing down some poor Palestinian family’s home after one member of the family becomes a suicide bomber. Why the hell didn’t the parents stop their kid from doing it? And where did all this bullshit about paying the suicide bombers’ families $50,000, and that the bomber will live on in paradise with 70 virgins get started? Man, if the Palestinians are dumb enough to fall for that shit, I say fuck ‘em!

I agree with another poster who wrote that efforts should be concentrated on getting rid of Islamic terrorists organizations. THEY are the ones who keep shit happening over there, not the Israelis.

Another thing: Jews do not and cannot possibly have some kind of conspiracy to take over the world. Where does this shit come from?! What neo-Nazi website did some shithead paste that crap from? All that BS about Zionist conspiracies has been around for over 150 years, and no one has ever been able to prove it. Why? Because it just ain’t fucking happening! I mean, just because their are a few Jewish congressmen doesn’t mean shit! By the same logic, that would mean that with few Jewish doctors,there’s some kind of Jewish profiteering conspiracy in the pharmaceutical industry.

To make a long story short, there are just too many shitheads believing everything they hear. Nobody wants to think for themselves. It’s just a mystery as to how these assholes get into college in the first place. Maybe that’s where the conspiracies really begin, with the assholes.

You know, anyone who celebrates the bombing of the World Trade Center like the Palestinians did is one bunch of assholes I don’t give a shit about. Fuck ‘em all! And to those of you who bash Jews over the whole thing: Fuck you too! What a bunch of pussies! First some wacko dictator in Europe tries to exterminate them, then they get their own country, then a bunch of uppity Arabs try to stop them, The Jews defend themselves, and now all the Arabs in the world are whining because for once Jews are able to fight back. Crybabies!

I’ll tell ya, I don’t get all worked up every time I read in the news about Israel tearing down some poor Palestinian family’s home after one member of the family becomes a suicide bomber. Why the hell didn’t the parents stop their kid from doing it? And where did all this bullshit about paying the suicide bombers’ families $50,000, and that the bomber will live on in paradise with 70 virgins get started? Man, if the Palestinians are dumb enough to fall for that shit, I say fuck ‘em!

I agree with another poster who wrote that efforts should be concentrated on getting rid of Islamic terrorists organizations. THEY are the ones who keep shit happening over there, not the Israelis.

Another thing: Jews do not and cannot possibly have some kind of conspiracy to take over the world. Where does this shit come from?! What neo-Nazi website did some shithead paste that crap from? All that BS about Zionist conspiracies has been around for over 150 years, and no one has ever been able to prove it. Why? Because it just ain’t fucking happening! I mean, just because their are a few Jewish congressmen doesn’t mean shit! By the same logic, that would mean that with few Jewish doctors,there’s some kind of Jewish profiteering conspiracy in the pharmaceutical industry.

To make a long story short, there are just too many shitheads believing everything they hear. Nobody wants to think for themselves. It’s just a mystery as to how these assholes get into college in the first place. Maybe that’s where the conspiracies really begin, with the assholes.

Is there not a reason for stereotypes.

“To make a long story short, there are just too many shitheads believing everything they hear.”

Speaking of gullible shitheads I don’t who is worse, Newsweek or the Moslems.

Newsweek has now basically said “Never mind!” in what is essentially a retraction of a report claiming that interrogators at Guantanamo Bay had desecrated the holy Koran — a report that led to angry riots in Afghanistan and more than a dozen deaths.

The MSM gets it wrong (again) because they want to be first with the BIG story and the reporters hate Bush and the military. Also, the crazy Moslems make Pat Buchanan and the Christian right wing-nuts look positively reasonable. Pathetic!

Two points: (1) If they had wrongly reported the race of a criminal and produced a lynching, they’d feel much worse — which is why they generally don’t report such things, a degree of sensitivity they don’t extend to reporting on, you know, minor topics like wars; and (2) If a blogger had made a similar mistake, with similar consequences, we’d be hearing about Big Media’s superior fact-checking and layers of editors.

People died, and U.S. military and diplomatic efforts were damaged, because — let’s be clear here — Newsweek was too anxious to get out a story that would make the Bush Administration and the military look bad.

http://instapundit.com/archives/023000.php

Newsweek isn’t the problem. The problem is that people will kill over a book being desecrated. Actually, over a anonymous report buried within a third rate weekly magazine. There is something wrong when people value a book, of which there are millions, over human lives. This is the real problem, and Newsweek isn’t the source of it. The problem is an ignorant and violent subculture within the islamic world, and the general lack of tolerance about religion therein.

oh yeah and israel is just oh so perfect as they kill Palestinian families…

“oh yeah and israel is just oh so perfect as they kill Palestinian families…”

Now let’s try switching a couple of words around:

oh yeah and Palestine is just oh so perfect as they kill Israeli families…

The latter is how it always starts.

Any other Madison liberals with something “intelligent and thoughtful” to say?

Yeah, I read about the riots in Afghanistan. Pretty pathetic. Kinda makes you wonder why the rest of the world even bothers to be so accomodating. I say let’s just take over the Middle-East. It would certainly be more justifiable than invading Canada. Besides, stuff’s cheaper in the Middle-East than in Canada anyway.

“oh yeah and israel is just oh so perfect as they kill Palestinian families…”

Newsflash, brainiac: Palestinians kill far more Palestinian families than Israelis. In fact, Palestinians kill far more people of any nationality than Israelis do. Maybe that says something about their wanton disregard for human life, you think?

The following are excerpts from this week’s official Friday sermon on Palestinian Authority (PA) TV.(1) The preacher is Sheik Ibrahim Mudeiris, a paid employee of the PA. To view the sermon visit http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=669 .

“Allah has tormented us with ‘the people most hostile to the believers’ ? the Jews. ‘Thou shalt find that the people most hostile to the believers to be the Jews and the polytheists.’ Allah warned His beloved Prophet Muhammad about the Jews, who had killed their prophets, forged their Torah, and sowed corruption throughout their history.

“With the establishment of the state of Israel, the entire Islamic nation was lost, because Israel is a cancer spreading through the body of the Islamic nation, and because the Jews are a virus resembling AIDS, from which the entire world suffers.

“You will find that the Jews were behind all the civil strife in this world. The Jews are behind the suffering of the nations.

“Ask Britain what it did to the Jews in the early sixth century. What did they do to the Jews? They expelled them, tortured them, and prevented them from entering Britain for more than 300 years. All this was because of what the Jews did in Britain. Ask France what it did to the Jews. They tortured them, expelled them, and burned their Talmud, because of the civil strife the Jews wanted to spark in France, in the days of Louis XIX. Ask Portugal what it did to the Jews. Ask Czarist Russia, which welcomed the Jews, who plotted to kill the Czar - so he massacred them. But don’t ask Germany what it did to the Jews. It was the Jews who provoked Nazism to wage war against the entire world, when the Jews, using the Zionist movement, got other countries to wage an economic war on Germany and to boycott German merchandise. They provoked Russia, Britain, France, and Italy. This enraged the Germans toward the Jews, leading to the events of those days, which the Jews commemorat today.

“But they are committing worse deeds than those done to them in the Nazi war. Yes, perhaps some of them were killed and some burned, but they are inflating this in order to win over the of the media and gain the world’s sympathy. The worst crimes in history were committed against the Jews, yet these crimes are no worse than what the Jews are doing in Palestine. What was done to the Jews was a crime, but isn’t what the Jews are doing today in the land of Palestine not a crime?!

“Look at modern history. Where has Great Britain gone? Where has Czarist Russia gone? Where has France gone - France, which almost ruled the entire world? Where is Nazi Germany, which massacred millions and ruled the world? Where did all these superpowers go? He who made them disappear will make America disappear too, God willing. He who made Russia disappear overnight is capable of making America disappear and fall, Allah willing.

“We have ruled the world before, and by Allah, the day will come when we will rule the entire world again. The day will come when we will rule America. The day will come when we will rule Britain and the entire world ? except for the Jews. The Jews will not enjoy a life of tranquility under our rule, because they are treacherous by nature, as they have been throughout history. The day will come when everything will be relived of the Jews - even the stones and trees which were harmed by them. Listen to the Prophet Muhammad, who tells you about the evil end that awaits Jews. The stones and trees will want the Muslims to finish off every Jew.”

Endnotes: (1) Palestinian Authority TV, May 13, 2005.

For more information on the subject: See “Palestinian Authority Sermons 2000-2003,” December 26, 2003, http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sr&ID=SR2403

*MEMRITV Clip No. 647, “Sheik Ibrahim Mudeiris in a PA Friday Sermon: Muslim Prisoners Are Forced to Convert to Christianity in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Palestine,” http://memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=647

*MEMRI TV Clip No. 608, “Palestinian Authority Friday Sermon: The Time Has Come for the ‘Great Jihad,’” http://memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=608

*MEMRI TV Clip No. 563, “Sermons on Palestinian TV,” http://memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=563

Fuck M_slims, “u” included, Fayyad.

“Fuck M_slims, “u” included, Fayyad.”

There’s just no call for that. Fayyad may be a terrorist and a douchebag, but there are plenty of good Muslims in the world who don’t deserve this kind of abuse. Many of them serve in our armed forces and are actively fighting the war on terrorism.

NEWSWEEK is misinformed, morally bankrupt!

People willing to kill over a thing like this are NOT good. No how, no way, never in a milliom years. Makes the yahoos fussing over flag burning look positively reasonable.

“In Pakistan and Afghanistan destruction of the Qur’an is seen as blasphemous and punishable by death. In the US, destruction of any religious text is a constitutional right.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1485635,00.html

Newsweek ran the story knowing that it would excite the passions of the world’s Muslim population.

Contrast this with the media’s refusal to show pictures of our fellow citizens jumping out the the world trade center. We were told that such pictures would unneccessarily anger the American people and lead to violence against Muslim Americans.

I saw them jumping…not spashing though…I hope it’s a peaceful way to go - no pain?

“I hope it’s a peaceful way to go - no pain?”

Yes, there is pain. Theoretically, you would die of massive cardiac/respiratory arrest on the way down. That’s painful enough. If you’re lucky, you’d black out before you hit the street.

“NEWSWEEK is misinformed, morally bankrupt!”

So is al-Jazeera. So is Cosmopolitan, Hell, so is Penthouse, Hustler, National Lampoon, The Onion, The Badger Herald…

So how many have died as the result of a story in the Onion?

OTOH, false stories in al-Jazeera have probably killed many people.

Is Newsweek run by jews?

“So how many have died as the result of a story in the Onion?”

LOTS! Open your eyes, you fool! It’s happening all around you!

C’mon, like you couldn’t tell that I was kidding about the Onion? I mean, didn’t the thought even cross your mind that I might actually work for the Onion? God, what a dork!

“Is Newsweek run by jews?”

No, but I wouldn’t doubt that Jason Blair works for them now.

From the AP Newswire:

Afghanistan’s government said Tuesday that Newsweek should be held responsible for damages caused by deadly anti-American demonstrations after the magazine alleged U.S. desecration of the Quran, and it suggested that foreign forces may have helped turn protests violent.

Hey, I can see why Newsweek should be boycotted for printing bullshit. I would agree without hesitation that they were total idiots for printing a story that was unconfirmed. But to hold them responsible for riots that Afghans started themselves? Get real! Just a bunch of uneducated hotheads trying to blame someone else for their own mental issues.

“Is Newsweek run by jews?”

Nope. Jews don’t make dumbass mistakes like that.

I’d belive you work for the Onion…you are one funny chick…heels and all.

“I’d belive you work for the Onion…you are one funny chick…heels and all.”

Actually, I don’t work for the Onion. Also, I’m a guy. Well OK, sometimes I like to cross-dress but I never thought to hint at that earlier because I didn’t think it would piss off a whole country halfway around the world.

MEMRI?

What a blatantly Zionist propaganda lie-spreading machine that organization is. Its amazing they have nonprofit status.

“What a blatantly Zionist propaganda lie-spreading machine that organization is. Its amazing they have nonprofit status.”

AND IF YOU KNOW WHAT’S GOOD FOR YOU, YOU WON’T BITCH ABOUT IT, FRAT BOY!!!

Deter likes to cross dress too.

“Deter likes to cross dress too.”

Who cares? Deters is hot-looking no matter how he dresses!

“MEMRI?

What a blatantly Zionist propaganda lie-spreading machine that organization is. Its amazing they have nonprofit status.”

I defy you to find one example of a lie they told, without using blatantly pro-Palestinian propaganda lie-spreading organizations like al-Jazeera, the BBC, or your mother.

In the good old days, one could count on the progressive elements to side with a pluralistic, tolerant, secular democracy against a theocratic regime made up of glowering, Jew-hating misogynists. But that was before the permanent adolescents of the ’60s hijacked the left with their fragrant blend of anti-Americanism and loathing of the very culture that guarantees their freedoms. To them, Iran is a problem only inasmuch as it provides the Zionist Oil-Cabal Neocons with an “enemy.” And if the mullahs respond to a successful revolution by nuking Israel on the way out? Well, how many Jews does the world really need, anyway? Europe’s been asking that question for centuries. An answer might be nice.

http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/lileks051105.html

I have a question for Fayyad and other like-minded know-it-alls: Are you all aware of the consequences of withdrawing military support from Israel?

Remember one thing: Israel has nukes. If the US discontinues the $3.5 billion in annual support, it will be the Arab world that will be in a dangerous situation, not Israel. Without US support, Most of the Arab countries will give more serious consideration to their not-so-secret dream of “driving Israel into the sea.” Israel, which is the world’s 5th largest nuclear power with its 400 nukes, will certainly not hesitate to use them. They can hit any Arab target with their Jericho II and Shavit missiles. And there goes the petroleum industry in the Middle-East. And then look how much we’ll all pay at the pump for a gallon of gas. Then what’ll we do? Blame Israel? they’ll just turn around, grab their crotches and say “Yo, pump this!”

So unless scientists find an alternative source of energy that can be used on a large scale in many applications, thus ending the era of internal combustion, we’re stuck with way things are.

Look, I’m trying real hard not to seem like I’m taking sides on the issue, but the whole world is just gonna have to learn to get along. Israel has a right to exist. Palestine has a right to exist. But before both states can exist side by side, all opposition must be eliminated. I’m referring of course to Islamic terrorist organizations. The Arabs AND the Israelis will both be forever grateful and peace will finally become a reality. Anyone who disagrees with that fact is obviously not serious about peace.

The Bin Ladenists did have a sort of “governing program,” expressed in part by their Taliban allies and patrons. This in turn reflected a “unified ideology.” It can be quite easily summarized: the return of the Ottoman Empire under a caliphate and a return to the desert religious purity of the seventh century (not quite the same things, but that’s not our fault). In the meantime, anyway, war to the end against Jews, Hindus, Christians, unbelievers, and Shiites. None of the “experts” quoted in the article appeared to have remembered these essentials of the al-Qaida program, but had they done so, they might not be so astounded at the promiscuous way in which the Iraqi gangsters pump out toxic anti-Semitism, slaughter Nepalese and other Asian guest-workers on video and gloat over the death of Hindus, burn out and blow up the Iraqi Christian minority, kidnap any Westerner who catches their eye, and regularly inflict massacres and bombings on Shiite mosques, funerals, and assemblies… .

The Bin Laden and Zarqawi organizations, and their co-thinkers in other countries, have gone to great pains to announce, on several occasions, that they will win because they love death, while their enemies are so soft and degenerate that they prefer life. Are we supposed to think that they were just boasting when they said this? Their actions demonstrate it every day, and there are burned-out school buses and clinics and hospitals to prove it, as well as mosques (the incineration of which one might think to be a better subject for Islamic protest than a possibly desecrated Quran, in a prison where every inmate is automatically issued with one.)

http://slate.msn.com/id/2118820/

Palestinians are morally bankrupt.

Just to restore some proper perspective, let me quote a snippet from a sermon delivered by Sheik Ibrahim Mudeiris, which ran last weekend on the Palestinian Authority’s official TV station:

“The day will come when we will rule America. The day will come when we will rule Britain and the entire world - except for the Jews. The Jews will not enjoy a life of tranquillity under our rule because they are treacherous by nature, as they have been throughout history. The day will come when everything will be relieved of the Jews - even the stones and trees which were harmed by them. Listen to the Prophet Muhammad, who tells you about the evil end that awaits Jews. The stones and trees will want the Muslims to finish off every Jew.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/19/opinion/19brooks.html

“from a sermon delivered by Sheik Ibrahim Mudeiris, which ran last weekend on the Palestinian Authority’s official TV station:”

I read it, and I’m not surprised. Until Muslims get off their anti-Jewish kick, I don’t care what happens to them. I say let them be persecuted…for once.

“I say let them be persecuted…for once.”

I agree. Let ‘em get their shit kicked around for awhile. It’s about time it happened. How can they possibly complain about being persecuted while they want to kill every Jew and Christian. World domination? Is that what Muslims really want? And why should we be so sympathetic toward the Palestinians after they so gleefully celebrated 9-11? Right in the damn streets with all the world watching!! Persecuted? I don’t think so.

I just read in the news today where some Muslims claim to have received a mail-order Koran with “Death to all Muslims” scrawled on the inside cover. Hey, how do we know they didn’t scrawl it themselves? Do they honestly expect the whole world to take their allegation at face value alone? Sorry, but if I were to place my unconditional belief in their claim without proof, then I must be wasting my time going to college. No way.

“I say let them be persecuted…for once.”

I agree. Let ‘em get their shit kicked around for awhile. It’s about time it happened. How can they possibly complain about being persecuted while they want to kill every Jew and Christian. World domination? Is that what Muslims really want? And why should we be so sympathetic toward the Palestinians after they so gleefully celebrated 9-11? Right in the damn streets with all the world watching!! Persecuted? I don’t think so.

I just read in the news today where some Muslims claim to have received a mail-order Koran with “Death to all Muslims” scrawled on the inside cover. Hey, how do we know they didn’t scrawl it themselves? Do they honestly expect the whole world to take their allegation at face value alone? Sorry, but if I were to place my unconditional belief in their claim without proof, then I must be wasting my time going to college. No way.

I want to see Andres Serrano work up a “Piss Muhammad” and “Piss Koran” to go with his “Piss Christ”. I suspect that Serrano wouldn’t last a week and that hundreds would die in riots all over the world.

After all, Dutch film maker Theo van Gogh was ritually murdered for artistically expressing his views on violence against women.

“I agree. Let ‘em get their shit kicked around for awhile. It’s about time it happened. How can they possibly complain about being persecuted while they want to kill every Jew and Christian. World domination? Is that what Muslims really want?”

Some do, like bin Laden. And they deserve to die.

“And why should we be so sympathetic toward the Palestinians after they so gleefully celebrated 9-11? Right in the damn streets with all the world watching!! Persecuted? I don’t think so.”

Again, correct. There is no good reason to sympathize with a group of people who celebrate the murder of thousands of innocent people.

But not all Muslims are like that. There are lots of good Muslims who hate bin Laden, Arafat, Saddam Hussein, al-Zarqawi, and other terrorists who falsely justify their bloody actions through religion.

Think of it this way: are the jihadis any different from people like Eric Rudolph (who bombed the Atlanta Olympics and several women’s health clinics), or James Kopp (who murdered an OB/GYN in front of his wife and children in their home just because the doctor performed abortions*), or the Crusaders of the Middle Ages (who raped, pillaged, and murdered their way across Europe and the Middle East)? Are they any different from people like Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) or Rep. Tom DeLay (R-TX), who have physically threatened federal judges for ruling according to the law rather than Christian priciples? Are they any different from Rev. Jerry Falwell, who says that all Catholics, Jews, atheists, and anyone who doesn’t espouse his particular version of Christianity will burn in hell for all eternity? Are they any different from the Mormons, who go so far as to posthumously convert people to their religion? Are they any different from secular Americans who have a visceral loathing for anything having to do with religion?

Any ideology can be taken too far, but we have no right to judge such large groups for the existence of a small minority (however dominant or powerful they may be) of genocidal megalomaniacs. If we paint them all with the same brush, we risk driving the sane ones into the arms of the assholes who deserve to die.

• Ironically, Kopp fled to France. The French initially refused to extradite him back to the US for trial because prosecutors refused to guarantee they wouldn’t seek the death penalty. In short, because of their opposition to what they see as state-sponsored murder, France sheltered a man who was very proud to have committed murder — another clear case of ideology being taken way too far.

Okay everyone, I’m starting a pool on how large this feedback string will get by, say, campus move out day. (Aug 14).

I call 400.

“But not all Muslims are like that. There are lots of good Muslims who hate bin Laden, Arafat, Saddam Hussein, al-Zarqawi, and other terrorists who falsely justify their bloody actions through religion.”

Yeah, but when’s the last time you ever heard a Muslim denounce hatred of Jews and Israel? When’s the time you ever heard a Muslim condemn suicide bombings? When’s the last time you ever heard a Muslim acknowledge that Muslim persecution of Jews and Christians should’ve ended along time ago?

If you can find one moment in history where just one Muslim spoke one word of humanity toward Jews and Christians, let us know.

“Yeah, but when’s the last time you ever heard a Muslim denounce hatred of Jews and Israel? When’s the time you ever heard a Muslim condemn suicide bombings? When’s the last time you ever heard a Muslim acknowledge that Muslim persecution of Jews and Christians should’ve ended along time ago?

If you can find one moment in history where just one Muslim spoke one word of humanity toward Jews and Christians, let us know.”

Do I really need to post the collected works of Ray Hananiah, Joseph Farah, Irshad Manji, and Ibn Warraq, or can I trust that you’re smart enough to find them on your own?

The problem isn’t that there aren’t any good Muslims who condemn the misappropriation of their religion. The problem is twofold: 1) that in large portions of the Muslim world, the people who misappropriate Islam are the people with the power to decide whether the good people live or die, and 2) the good Muslims just don’t get much exposure in national media. It seems the national media are more interested in perpetuating ugly stereotypes.

“It seems the national media are more interested in perpetuating ugly stereotypes.”

That might be true, and I concede that it probably is, but what about college papers like the BH? The BH only has Fayyad and Mohamed Abed. Neither can be counted as a “good Muslim,” and both are definitely among the terrorist loving bastardizers (and bastards) of Islam. I bet that if you surveyed major universities’ student newspapers, you would find 10 Fayyads for every good Muslim.

“It seems the national media are more interested in perpetuating ugly stereotypes.”

This is true ONLY with regard to the American military (and Jews of course). Muslims they treat with kid gloves lest they be offended.

“Do I really need to post the collected works of Ray Hananiah, Joseph Farah, Irshad Manji, and Ibn Warraq, or can I trust that you’re smart enough to find them on your own?”

Hey, you’re the one with a point to make! I just want to see you back it up. Don’t just say it, prove it! All I’m saying is that I have never heard or read a kind word about Jews from a Muslim. If any Muslims have ever uttered a kind word about Jews, then why don’t you point the way to the source? If Muslims have anything over Christians, then why didn’t they just react in a way that is more civilized when Newsweek printed that bullshit story about a Koran flushed down a toilet? Christians would’ve prayed for the person that did it, not riot in the streets and kill scores of innocent people. Hell, even Jews don’t even do that!

Now tell me if you think Muslims are civilized, pal. The bloodiest religious wars were fought by Muslims. Most religious wars PERIOD were fought by Muslims! Tell me why these bloodthirsty bastards deserve better treatment.

“But not all Muslims are like that. There are lots of good Muslims who hate bin Laden, Arafat, Saddam Hussein, al-Zarqawi, and other terrorists who falsely justify their bloody actions through religion.”

Are not even the “good Muslims” in favor of killing anyone who says anything insulting Muhammad or the Koran?

There is no way that sounds like a “good” person. There may be limits to free speech that are acceptable (i.e. no yelling fire in the theater) but no speech deserves the death penalty.

These days, all religion gets a bad rap, and the fanatics are to blame. Pretty soon people will lose all faith in a supreme being and trust in science instead. Why believe in a supernatural deity that we have no sense of while technology is gradually making life easier for us? It’s just a question of which religion we want to get rid of first. So if you want your religion to survive well into this century, you better get your act together. Too many people are tired of living in the Dark Ages.

Hypocrisy Most Holy Muslims should show some respect to others’ religions.

BY ALI AL-AHMED Friday, May 20, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110006712

As a Muslim, I am able to purchase copies of the Quran in any bookstore in any American city, and study its contents in countless American universities. American museums spend millions to exhibit and celebrate Muslim arts and heritage. On the other hand, my Christian and other non-Muslim brothers and sisters in Saudi Arabia—where I come from—are not even allowed to own a copy of their holy books. Indeed, the Saudi government desecrates and burns Bibles that its security forces confiscate at immigration points into the kingdom or during raids on Christian expatriates worshiping privately… .

The Saudi Embassy and other Saudi organizations in Washington have distributed hundreds of thousands of Qurans and many more Muslim books, some that have libeled Christians, Jews and others as pigs and monkeys. In Saudi school curricula, Jews and Christians are considered deviants and eternal enemies. By contrast, Muslim communities in the West are the first to admit that Western countries—especially the U.S.—provide Muslims the strongest freedoms and protections that allow Islam to thrive in the West. Meanwhile Christianity and Judaism, both indigenous to the Middle East, are maligned through systematic hostility by Middle Eastern governments and their religious apparatuses.

The lesson here is simple: If Muslims wish other religions to respect their beliefs and their Holy book, they should lead by example.

“Meanwhile Christianity and Judaism, both indigenous to the Middle East, are maligned through systematic hostility by Middle Eastern governments and their religious apparatuses.”

Welcome to the International Order Of Rational Thinkers Who May Someday Achieve Mutual Understanding And Tolerance Among Religions, Mr. Al-Ahmed. Glad to have you aboard!

The Muslim media’s culture of death

SHOAIB CHOUDHURY, THE JERUSALEM POST

Apr. 12, 2005

What a thrill it is for me to be here in Israel! You know, it might be unexpected from a Bangladeshi, but I must tell you that coming here has been a lifelong dream of mine. The moment I stepped off the plane and onto Israeli soil, I realized that dream; and I cannot thank you enough for helping to make it a reality.

Today, I stand before you perhaps as a living contradiction: a Zionist, a defender of Israel, and a devout, practicing Muslim living in a Muslim country.

Like you I believe in the justice of the Zionist dream. I also acknowledge this historical reality: that the world has endeavored to crush that dream and, yes, even destroy the viability of the Jewish people.

At the same time I live in an environment where people believe just as passionately in an opposing view that sees Israel as illegitimate and the Jewish people as evil incarnate. Witness the recent statement of outgoing Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohammed that “Jews rule the world.”

A true culture of peace is far more than the cessation of hostilities. It includes justice and tolerance for all people. It allows each person to have pride in one’s own faith, while respecting the pride that courses through the veins of those who follow other paths to God.

In Israel, you have any number of viewpoints being aired in any number of forums. You have Likud; you have Labor. You have Shas; you have Shinui. You have Peace Now; you have the Temple Mount Faithful. You have The Jerusalem Post; you have Haaretz.

Most of the Muslim world takes your diversity as a sign of weakness and disunity, a lack of resolve; we know it is your great strength. It’s messy, to be sure. But the fact that you do not feel it necessary to control the flow of information to your people means you respect them far more than we do ours

MEMRI: Arab Columnists: Terrorists Motivated by Cultural/Religious Factors, Not Poverty

Special Dispatch - Reform Project January 26, 2005 No. 853

Several Arab columnists have recently published articles critical of the view that the main motivation to terrorism is poverty or despair. They instead cite the role of cultural and religious factors in motivating terrorism, and particularly the incitement by sheikhs who encourage young men to conduct terror operations. The following are excerpts from three articles; one, by Muhammad Mahfouz, was published in the Saudi Gazette; another, by Abdallah Rashid, was published in the UAE Al-Itihad daily; and a third, by Abdallah Nasser Al-Fawzan, was published in the Saudi daily Al-Watan:

Saudi Columnist: ‘The Only Way to End Violence and Terrorism Is to Fight a Cultural and Ideological Battle’

In an article published in the Saudi Gazette, columnist Muhammad Mahfouz, who is also editor of the cultural magazine Al-Kalima, published in Lebanon, wrote:(1)

“It is an undeniable fact that social problems and phenomena [that] are ignored without determining their root causes will proliferate and surface repeatedly. But … their re-emergence will be associated with more complications and grow to the extent that they become incurable…

“This brings me to the phenomenon of terrorism, which is one of the most dangerous problems encountered [in] recent times, for it undermines the stability and security of all human societies. This shows that [an] external and superficial probing of the problem will not be effective until [we] delve deeply into its cultural and ideological roots…

“Of course the security efforts [are] one of the tools to fight terrorism … [but] the security efforts always need to be associated and supported with national, cultural, political, and socioeconomic efforts…

“The relationship between the phenomenon of terrorism in our society and culture is like the relationship between the cause and consequence. A thorough study of this phenomenon shows that the … real reason behind the mobilization of a handful of young men by this deviant group is purely cultural. This means that these youths were brought up in a special cultural atmosphere which finds its roots in a stereotyped understanding of religion. This understanding serves as a basic incubator to this group. This may explain the reason why some youths belonging to rich families and others who are well positioned in the state’s civil service hierarchy are implicated in terrorist crimes.

“This [means] that financial and economic factors can not be associated with this group. Therefore, it is a cultural and religious factor that motivated them [to kill] innocent people and destroy the country’s infrastructure.

“Thus, the only way to put an end to the wave of violence and terrorism is to fight a cultural and ideological battle against terrorism as well as [against] its direct and indirect causes. Without fighting this fateful battle, we will never succeed in eliminating this menace, and thus our country will suffer from this phenomenon from time to time.

“In my opinion, [any] delay in fighting this ideological cultural battle against terrorism will drag our country to abyss of instability. We need more than ever to … expose the phenomenon of terrorism and dismantle the cultural and ideological incubators which feed this phenomenon and mold it socially and culturally.

“This brings me again to the point that the elimination of terrorism and violence are associated with uprooting the culture of violence which promotes killing, justifies terrorism, and provides it with a legitimate cover.

“[On the other hand,] the security battle will not help much in putting an end to this phenomenon. On the contrary, it may give it a justification [to continue].

“Thus, I find it necessary to elaborate on these points: The phenomenon of terrorism and violence we are facing can be classified as religious violence carried out by a group of brain-washed youth influenced by glamorous slogans. This requires us to re-formulate the prevailing religious concepts and implant in their minds other religious values, such as the values of dialogue and religious tolerance, as well as recognizing pluralism. Thus … we need to formulate a new religious vision isolating and freeing it of all the facets of extremism and fundamentalism.

“… Confronting … this phenomenon requires bold decisions and policies because any laxity in this matter will cost the country more lives and destruction, [and for this] we need transparency and courage to put an end to this poisonous menace.

“Our determination will pave the way for successfully dismantling the ideological and cultural structure that offers fertile ground for the proliferation of this phenomenon. Moreover, the formulation of new religious concepts based on dialogue inspiring the values of Islam and its civilization will make it necessary to allow the [entire] spectrum of society to participate in molding these new concepts…

“Thus, the coming battle of our country is the battle of culture and thought to fight and defeat terrorism in all its stages.”

UAE Writer: The Reason for Arab Muslim Youth Involvement in Terrorism is Religious Brainwashing

In an article in the United Arab Emirates daily Al-Itihad, columnist Abdallah Rashid stated that the reason for terrorism is not the socio-economic situation in the Arab countries, but the religious brainwashing of Arab youth. The following are excerpts:

“The greatest mistake of the social and political commentators is their attributing the cause for the spreading of the phenomenon of terrorism in the Arab and Islamic world solely to the lack of social justice, the spreading of poverty, and the harsh social conditions in most of the Arab and Islamic countries.

“The socio-economic situation of most of the terrorists who participate in the criminal operations around the world is very good. Thus, for example, Faysal Zayd Al-Matiri, a young Kuwaiti man from an economically well-off family, went to Fallujah to fight alongside the terrorists supporting the Al-Qa’ida organization, together with the terrorist Abu Mus’ab Al-Zarqawi. He left behind his parents, his wife, and his three girls. He was killed in the fighting, leaving a widow, three orphan girls, and stricken parents mourning his death…

“Interrogations by the Iraqi authorities of terrorists arrested during raids and searches in Iraqi towns revealed that most of the Saudi youth and some of the [youth] from the Gulf who went to Iraq to join the Al-Qa’ida terrorist groups come from families that are not poor and from a social environment that does not suffer from economic problems.

“What is the reason for the involvement of the Arab Muslim youth in such criminal and despicable acts?

“The simple reason is the terrifying brainwashing suffered by most of the Arab youth at the hands of ‘religious clerics’ and particularly at the hands of the extremists with backward views. [These ‘clerics’] nourish the Muslim youth with various kinds of racist views and destructive extremist principles, and nurse them with hostility, hatred, and resentment towards other people and towards members of other divine religions.

“Those who award themselves the title of ‘religious clerics’ incite Muslim youth to what they call ‘Jihad,’ while they do not know the meaning of Jihad. What is odd is that they incite others to cross seas and oceans in order to fight ‘the atheist and Christian infidels,’ as they put it, while not one of them volunteers to go [there] himself and to serve as a model and an example to others…

“So many victims of the brainwashing to which Arab youth are subjected! So many people attribute the reason for these youths joining the caravan of terror to the socio-economic situation [in Arab and Islamic countries], all the while ignoring the fact that there are thousands of youth from peaceful households, from stable families and from rich families who join the gangs of terror, the most prominent leaders of which are bin Laden, Al-Zawahiri, and Al-Zarqawi!…”(2)

Saudi Columnist: Why Don’t the Sheikhs Who Encourage the Youth to Fight Jihad Do So Themselves?

In an article in the Saudi daily Al-Watan titled “Question to the Youth Seeking Paradise,” Saudi columnist Abdallah Nasser Al-Fawzan criticized the sheikhs who encourage youth to fight Jihad but refrain from doing so themselves:

“If there is a worthy deed that endangers one’s life, but guarantees [one’s reaching] paradise, like Jihad for the sake of Allah - are we to suppose that young teenagers in the early stages of life should aspire to carry it out? Or should it rather be the elderly, nearing death, [for whom] it is natural to aspire to end their lives through an honorable deed that will guarantee them paradise?

“Logically, and as reality shows us, the correct answer is the second one. Thus, for instance, youth indeed participated in Jihad for the sake of Allah in the era of the Rightly-Guided Caliphs, but it [i.e., their Jihad] depended principally on middle-aged men, and the elderly took part in every mission appropriate for their age…

“If adults took part in Jihad [in that era], why do we find today that all those involved in what they claim are ‘Jihad’ operations - whether in Iraq or here [in Saudi Arabia] - are young teenagers, and we do not see among them any adults or elderly people?… After all, the elderly are quite capable of carrying out missions in the best possible manner. An old man over 100 years old can drive a booby-trapped car and explode it in a given area, perhaps even with greater expertise than a 20-year-old.

“In one of his quests for paradise, a youth traveled to another country in order to kill a man accused of atheism, in order to get closer to Allah by killing him, and thus to reach paradise. Fate had it that the man accused of atheism was the first one to meet the youth in a cafe. He saw him sitting there and realized that he was a foreigner. The man addressed him, shook his hand, welcomed him, and asked if he might sit next to the youth. The latter gave his consent. They had a friendly talk, and got to like one another.

“Afterwards the youth asked him, ‘Do you know so-and-so?’ The man saw that the youth had mentioned him by name and was startled, but he controlled his emotions and asked the youth, ‘Why are you inquiring about this man?’ The youth said that the man was an evil atheist and that he intended to rescue people from his evildoing in order to get closer to Allah and to reach paradise. The man, who was by now quite amazed, said to the youth, ‘How are you so certain that this man is an atheist deserving of death, and that killing him will bring you to paradise?’ The youth responded, ‘Some sheikhs told me so.’… The man said, ‘Why don’t these sheikhs aspire to reach paradise themselves, and why are they giving up for your sake [the merit of] carrying out this honorable deed which brings one to paradise?’ The youth was embarrassed and said, ‘I don’t know.’

“Today, the same question that the man asked the paradise-seeking youth could be addressed to the youth who blow themselves up and explode booby-trapped cars while still inside them, in order to reach paradise, for they are without doubt influenced by the Fatwas, the ideas, the inclinations, and the instructions of men who have gained their trust and have done much to influence them.

“These people who hold sway over the minds of the youth have deceived them into thinking that what they are doing is an act of Jihad that will bring them to paradise. These youth should ask themselves why it is that these people prefer them [i.e., the youth] to themselves, and give up for their sake [the merit of carrying out] the ‘honorable’ deed that would bring them to paradise.

“In true acts of Jihad, everyone participated, including the Prophet and his sublime Companions. Today, however, those who carry out these dangerous acts, which are considered to be Jihad, are youth who have been influenced [by the sheikhs] and have turned into bullets. Where are the adults and the elderly? Where are the adults who have been influenced by the organization’s ideology? Is there not a single elderly person convinced that this is an act of Jihad? Is there not a single elderly person who would blow himself up or explode a booby-trapped car?

“Oh youth, you who seek paradise, where are your sheikhs [when it comes to] this ‘honorable deed’?… Everybody wants paradise. Why then, oh youth, are your sheikhs shirking [Jihad], and not participating in your ‘honorable’ mission.”(3)

Endnotes: (1) Saudi Gazette (Saudi Arabia), December 30, 2004. (2) Al-Itihad (UAE), January 10, 2005. (3) Al-Watan (Saudi Arabia), January 1, 2005.

If you wish to quote tings that long instead of providing a link - PUT IT THU AN EDITOR THAT CAN STRIP OUT THE EXTRA LINE FEEDS!!!

OK - two Muslims not calling for immediate death to all infidels, but I still wonder if they would support killing blasphemers.

Irshad Manji, from The Trouble With Islam: A Muslim’s Call for Reform in Her Faith:

“I hear from a Saudi friend that his country’s religious police arrest women for wearing red on Valentines Day, and I think, Since when does a merciful God outlaw joy—or fun? I read about victims of rape being stoned for “adultery” and I wonder how a critical mass of us can stay stone silent.”

Also Irshad Manji, from the same book:

“What’s with the stubborn streak of anti-Semitism in Islam? Who is the real colonizer of the Muslims—-America or Arabia? Why are we squandering the talents of women, fully half of God’s creation?”

Hey, it’s nice to see Muslims speaking out against the anti-Jewish element in the Muslim faith, but we need to take it further. Muslims in general need to be educated about the origins of Muslim anti-Semitism and why it should be eliminated from Islamic teachings everywhere. Muslim clerics should be barred from attempting to indoctrinate students of Islam with anti-Jewish ideology. Discriminatory laws that affect Jews in Arab countries should repealed. Jews who may have been barred from leaving Islamic countries should be allowed to leave peacefully and without unnecessary delay.

Lots of things need to change in order to convince the rest of the world that there is serious commitment to human rights. We’ll be watching.

It’s all Abraham’s fault, he never shoud have shtupped Hagar the Egyptian.

“It’s all Abraham’s fault, he never shoud have shtupped Hagar the Egyptian.”

Yeah, he’s lucky Sarah didn’t whomp ‘im with a frying pan. What broad wouldn’t?

Sarah told Abraham to go and lay next to their slave, Hagar, and have a baby. Sure enough, Abraham and Hagar bore a child named Ishmael.

Sarah told Abraham to go and lay next to their slave, Hagar, and have a baby. Sure enough, Abraham and Hagar bore a child named Ishmael.

“Sarah told Abraham to go and lay next to their slave, Hagar, and have a baby. Sure enough, Abraham and Hagar bore a child named Ishmael.”

Man, I used to party with Ishmael down in Milwaukee! Hey, Ishmael, if you read this, Whassuuuuuup!

A Wahhabi War at Rutgers University By Stephen Schwartz FrontPageMagazine.com | May 18, 2005

The Center for Islamic Pluralism in Washington, of which I am the Executive Director has been interested for some time in the situation of American Muslim students in the Rutgers University system — the state university of New Jersey.

Young Muslims at Rutgers are unhappy that Islamic activities on campus — funded by the university, i.e. the state authorities — are dominated by adherents of the Wahhabi lobby, the American Muslim establishment. The Wahhabi lobby consists of a cluster of organizations backed by Saudi Arabia and professing the doctrines of the Wahhabi sect, the most radical form of Islam. Wahhabism is the exclusive, state religion in the Saudi kingdom.

In April, the Islamic Society of Rutgers University (ISRU) held an election. ISRU has more than four hundred members and receives significant financing from the university system. A courageous Muslim woman student named Fatima Agha has informed CIP and others of events she witnessed during the ISRU election campaign, and which she believes violate university policy.

On April 21, a university employee named Mostafa Khalifa delivered a lecture to ISRU members on the nature of leadership. The apparent intent of the lecture was to assure that the ISRU election would have an “Islamic,” rather than a democratic and American character. Ms. Agha described Khalifa as an exponent of “fundamentalist thought.” She complained that he not only exploited his position as a university functionary to support his ideological agenda, but that, since he is an alumnus of the university and not a student, as well as older than the students, his involvement in the voting process represented an inappropriate effort to steer students away from voting according to their own preferences and opinions.

Further, Ms. Agha complained, “His participation exert(ed) a chilling effect on the participation of any students who disagree with his ideas and all of whom are younger than he.” For anyone who knows the American Muslim community, the ‘shock of recognition’ is immediate: in the authority-driven environment of American Islam, older males are listened to, obeyed and almost never challenged.

When voting itself took place, it was announced at the meeting that four male positions and three female positions were contested. According to Ms. Agha, there was no precedent for this decision in ISRU, yet it indicated that ISRU considers women students a lesser group — and thus supporting one of the most serious charges leveled against Islam, that of sex discrimination.

While many religions, including Islam, restrict pastoral activities by women, barring them from leading services and similar duties, ISRU is supposed to be a student service organization for the betterment of life on the Rutgers campus. It must therefore adhere to state and federal laws against sex discrimination. The board of ISRU does not have religious responsibilities, and Ms. Agha therefore challenges its establishment of a sex or gender standard for membership.

The seven elected representatives would then choose the ISRU president, who would bear the title “amir” or “commander.” This last detail, showing that ISRU had adopted the vocabulary of a paramilitary group rather than a student organization, is the most disturbing element in this story. Ms. Agha notes that, as announced during the elections, the “amir” of the Rutgers Muslim students would be required to be male and would enjoy “dictatorial power.”

According to Ms. Agha, aside from the interloper, Mostafa Khalifa, the participants in the election, i.e. the candidates, were forbidden to make speeches; election tellers did not identify qualified voters or provide a structure to ensure fairness - they did not even ask to see Rutgers I.D.

In other words, the Islamic Society of Rutgers University has established a little Saudi Arabia on the Rutgers campuses, in which Muslims are required to abide by the authoritarian whims characteristic of Wahhabi governance. Ms. Agha has also alleged that ISRU leaders ostracize Muslim women students if they attend its meetings without wearing a headscarf. She described ISRU as a power unto itself, unaccountable to the university; it presents weekly speeches and lectures but ignores university requirements for contracting of speakers.

Further, and again embodying the Wahhabi manner, ISRU frequently sponsors lecturers who attack the beliefs of Shia and other pluralistic traditions in Islam, and engage in hate speech against non-Wahhabi believers. Ms. Agha describes ISRU as a university-subsidized vehicle for discrimination. For example, on the day of the election a Shia student, identified only as Ali, was told during Muslim prayer that, as a Shia, he was praying incorrectly by not observing the Sunni ritual. Such acts of harassment are also commonly alleged by Shia prisoners in the New York State correctional system, who have entered a legal complaint against the Wahhabi monopoly over the hiring of prison imams. Muslim clerics throughout the federal and state prisons are Wahhabis, routinely victimizing Shia Muslims who have the bad fortune to cross their paths - including by prison violence.

Ms. Agha writes accurately and eloquently, “Unfortunately, although the Rutgers University Administration has helped and funded ISRU because of the University’s desire to be fair and equitable to students of all religions… funding for ISRU only serves to inflame sectarian differences and create hostile environments for certain members of the Rutgers student body.”

On an official website, www.muslims.rutgers.edu, under the heading “Fundamentals of Islam Monotheism (Tawheed)”, ISRU reproduces a screed by Bilal Phillips, a notorious American Wahhabi. Phillips expresses hatred of the Sufi tradition in Islam in a vulgar mass of insults and stupid fabrications against outstanding Muslim spiritual figures and practices. The site also promotes da’wa or Muslim missionization by the Islamic Circle of North America, a bullying Wahhabi militia active run by extremists from Pakistan. According to Ms. Agha, state money granted to ISRU maintains “an organization that mocks the beliefs of others and only perpetuates negative stereotypes… [and] an atmosphere of intolerance.”

Nearing graduation, Ms. Agha warns that the university she will leave behind is “a place where a young woman such as myself… is made to feel inferior.” Indeed, she asserts that second-class status is imposed on all the women students in her particular college, Douglass. She adds, “Many students do not speak out for fear of ostracism or retribution.”

Fatima Agha has called for new elections to be held in ISRU, or failing that, a recount of votes under outside supervision. She has demanded that until ISRU cleans up its practices, its campus funding be denied.

Ms. Agha has taken a step that is potentially historic for thousands of American Muslim college students. The Center for Islamic Pluralism and I will assist her to the maximum of our ability, and we call on other Americans, committed to all religions and to real democracy, to do the same. Let us hope that the democracy America is fighting to establish in Iraq, with the help of Shia Muslims, may also regain its proper status at college campuses in New Jersey.

From the Wall Street Journal:

Hypocrisy Most Holy Muslims should show some respect to others’ religions.

BY ALI AL-AHMED Friday, May 20, 2005 12:01 a.m.

With the revelation that a copy of the Quran may have been desecrated by U.S. military personnel at Guantanamo Bay, Muslims and their governments—including that of Saudi Arabia—reacted angrily. This anger would have been understandable if the U.S. government’s adopted policy was to desecrate our Quran. But even before the Newsweek report was discredited, that was never part of the allegations. As a Muslim, I am able to purchase copies of the Quran in any bookstore in any American city, and study its contents in countless American universities. American museums spend millions to exhibit and celebrate Muslim arts and heritage. On the other hand, my Christian and other non-Muslim brothers and sisters in Saudi Arabia—where I come from—are not even allowed to own a copy of their holy books. Indeed, the Saudi government desecrates and burns Bibles that its security forces confiscate at immigration points into the kingdom or during raids on Christian expatriates worshiping privately.

Soon after Newsweek published an account, later retracted, of an American soldier flushing a copy of the Quran down the toilet, the Saudi government voiced its strenuous disapproval. More specifically, the Saudi Embassy in Washington expressed “great concern” and urged the U.S. to “conduct a quick investigation.” Although considered as holy in Islam and mentioned in the Quran dozens of times, the Bible is banned in Saudi Arabia. This would seem curious to most people because of the fact that to most Muslims, the Bible is a holy book. But when it comes to Saudi Arabia we are not talking about most Muslims, but a tiny minority of hard-liners who constitute the Wahhabi Sect.

The Bible in Saudi Arabia may get a person killed, arrested, or deported. In September 1993, Sadeq Mallallah, 23, was beheaded in Qateef on a charge of apostasy for owning a Bible. The State Department’s annual human rights reports detail the arrest and deportation of many Christian worshipers every year. Just days before Crown Prince Abdullah met President Bush last month, two Christian gatherings were stormed in Riyadh. Bibles and crosses were confiscated, and will be incinerated. (The Saudi government does not even spare the Quran from desecration. On Oct. 14, 2004, dozens of Saudi men and women carried copies of the Quran as they protested in support of reformers in the capital, Riyadh. Although they carried the Qurans in part to protect themselves from assault by police, they were charged by hundreds of riot police, who stepped on the books with their shoes, according to one of the protesters.)

As Muslims, we have not been as generous as our Christian and Jewish counterparts in respecting others’ holy books and religious symbols. Saudi Arabia bans the importation or the display of crosses, Stars of David or any other religious symbols not approved by the Wahhabi establishment. TV programs that show Christian clergymen, crosses or Stars of David are censored.

The desecration of religious texts and symbols and intolerance of varying religious viewpoints and beliefs have been issues of some controversy inside Saudi Arabia. Ruled by a Wahhabi theocracy, the ruling elite of Saudi Arabia have made it difficult for Christians, Jews, Hindus and others, as well as dissenting sects of Islam, to visibly coexist inside the kingdom.

Another way in which religious and cultural issues are becoming more divisive is the Saudi treatment of Americans who are living in that country: Around 30,000 live and work in various parts of Saudi Arabia. These people are not allowed to celebrate their religious or even secular holidays. These include Christmas and Easter, but also Thanksgiving. All other Gulf states allow non-Islamic holidays to be celebrated.

The Saudi Embassy and other Saudi organizations in Washington have distributed hundreds of thousands of Qurans and many more Muslim books, some that have libeled Christians, Jews and others as pigs and monkeys. In Saudi school curricula, Jews and Christians are considered deviants and eternal enemies. By contrast, Muslim communities in the West are the first to admit that Western countries—especially the U.S.—provide Muslims the strongest freedoms and protections that allow Islam to thrive in the West. Meanwhile Christianity and Judaism, both indigenous to the Middle East, are maligned through systematic hostility by Middle Eastern governments and their religious apparatuses. The lesson here is simple: If Muslims wish other religions to respect their beliefs and their Holy book, they should lead by example. Mr. al-Ahmed is director of the Saudi Institute in Washington.

Hey, I’m looking for Ishmael too. Motherfucker owes me twenty bucks! Ishmael, where’s my money?!

Q. When is it politically correct to beat gays and kill women?

A. When the beaters and killers are “oppressed Muslims”!

http://www.reason.com/cy/cy051705.shtml

On April 30, American journalist Chris Crain became the victim of a hate crime in Amsterdam. While walking in the street holding hands with his partner, he was savagely beaten by seven men shouting antigay slurs. A few days later, Scott Long, director of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Program at the Human Rights Watch, expressed some sympathy for the gay-bashers. Crain’s attackers were reportedly Moroccan immigrants.

Fayyad must be doing vigins in his SUV?

“Fayyad must be doing vigins in his SUV?”

Nah! He’d have to have blown himself up somewhere before he’d see even one virgin.

Ishmael, I’m still waiting for my $20! Pay up, asshole!

In an effort to shed light on the historical existence of the Palestinians as a people, Elder of Ziyon looked into old newspaper clippings to see how they used the word "Palestinian." His research of back issues of the Palestine Post (now the Jerusalem Post) Washington Post, and New York Times led to this conclusion:

“As is clear, at least in Palestine, the word “Palestinian” usually referred to Jews, not Arabs.”

For years, the NY Times was always clear about distinguishing between "Palestinian Jews" and "Palestinian Arabs." The Times' earliest earliest use of the sole word "Palestinian" as an unequivocal description of Arabs was only published in November, 1963. Meanwhile, the Washington Post also described the Jews as "Palestinian Jews," while referring to Arabs as "Arabs," or sometimes as "Beduins" or "Nationalist Arabs."

Last night, Palestinian security and Hamas clashed in a refugee camp when the police tried to stop a mortar crew firing rockets. AP notes that after the fight, the PA Interior Ministry accused Hamas of using civilians for cover:

“The Palestinian Interior Ministry charged that Hamas militants used civilians as shields and eight officers were hurt by rocks. "This cannot be accepted and this serious violation will not pass (unanswered)," a ministry statement said.”

http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/5411488.html

Deny the Use of the University of Wisconsin Campus to Supporters of Terrorism

http://www.petitiononline.com/stopPSM/petition.html

To: Chancellor John D. Wiley, University of Wisconsin

As students, alumni, and concerned citizens, we urge you to deny the use of meeting space on the University of Wisconsin, Madison campus to the National Conference of the Palestine Solidarity Movement, an anti-Semitic organization that condones terrorism and suicide bombing.

When the Palestine Solidarity Movement held its National Conference at the University of Michigan in October, 2002, delegates chanted “Kill the Jews.”

When the Solidarity Movement planned to hold a meeting at Rutgers, swastikas appeared on campus buildings, including the Hillel House and the AEPi fraternity.

When the Solidarity Movement met at Duke, undergraduates felt empowered to publish flagrantly anti-Semitic editorial columns in the Duke Chronicle, and there was a staff editorial that approved of support for Palestinian terrorism as "an effective means of furthering the (Palestine Solidarity Movement's) goals."

The goals of the Palestine Solidarity Movement include the destruction of the State of Israel "by any means necessary." Israel would be replaced with a Muslim state, this is sometimes referred to as a "one-state solution." Movement tactics include advocating divestment and demonizing Jews with anti-Semitic rhetoric and canards. Delegates at the Duke conference cheered loudly when a proposal to repudiate terrorism as a "guiding principle" was voted down.

Speakers at PSM workshops refer to the national aspirations of the Jewish people as a "disease," trot out hoary canards about "Jewish control" of the media, the United States government, or American universities, and spout hate-filled slogans about Israel being a Nazi state.

In 2003, the Solidarity Movement scheduled its National Conference for the Rutgers campus. University President Richard McCormick took a careful look at the goals and methods of this movement, which recruits students to travel to Israel where they work in coordination with Hamas and Islamic Jihad under the auspices of the terror-supporting International Solidarity Movement, and at the group's blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric. In the words of the New Jersey Star Ledger (Sept. 13, 2003) McCormick "kicked the meeting off campus."

The Conference was held at the Ramada Inn. Rutgers withheld its name and prestige from a Movement that condones terrorism and promotes the hatred of Jews.

At the October, 2004 meeting at Duke, the Palestine Solidarity Movement announced its intention to hold its Fifth National Convention at the University of Wisconsin, Madison.

We urge you to deny this anti-Semitic, terrorism-supporting group the prestige of meeting space at the University of Wisconsin. (The Jewish Action Task Force urges all signers of this petition to write directly to Chancellor Wiley [email protected] A sample letter and further information are available at: http://UWisc.JAT-Action.org/

The religion of peace indeed!

IRAN: VOTE FOR RAFSANJANI AND WE WILL HAVE NUCLEAR BOMBS, SAYS RELIGIOUS LEADER

Tehran, 27 May (AKI) - Hojatolislam Gholam Reza Hasani, a representative of Iran’s supreme spiritual leader, Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei, in Iranian Azerbaijan, has no doubts as to who to vote for in the next presidential elections on 17 June. “You need to vote for Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani,” said Hasani. “This way we will finally be able to have for ourselves the atomic bomb to fairly stand up to Israeli weapons,” said Hasani.

“Freedom, democracy and stupidities of this type cannot be carried over to any part, and these concepts are out of sync with the principles of Islam,” said Hasani, the imam who led Friday prayers in the main city of western Iranian Azerbaijian.

“Islam always spoke with the sword in the hand and I don’t see why now we have changed attitudes and talk with the other civilisations.”

http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Politics&loid=8.0.171686888&par=0

May 30, 2005

Woman and her 4-year-old niece shot dead after Ramle Bar Mitzva

By Yuval Azoulay, Haaretz Correspondent and Haaretz Staff

A woman and her four-year-old niece were shot to death near Ramle predawn on Monday, as they were driving home from a Bar and Bat Mitzva.

Police think the shootout may have been a failed atempt by underworld figures seeking revenge. Police said the shooting may have been the result of mistaken identity on the part of the killers.

Two other family members were wounded seriously and two were lightly wounded in the attack. Among those who were wounded are two children.

A preliminary investigation indicated that the family was riding in their car near Ramle prison on their way home from a banquet hall, when gunmen opened fire on them.

Paramedics rushed the wounded to Assaf Harofeh Hospital next to the Israel Defense Forces base of Tzrifin.

A police force headed by Commander Yifrah Duchovny and Central District Commander Major General Benny Kaniak arrived at the scene of the shooting and were investigating the issue.

Police searched the area around Ramle and Lod, and used helicopters to try and locate the shooters.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=581850

“Islam is not a religion. Considering Islam a religion is a foolish mistake that could cost millions of lives. Islam is a political movement set to conquer the world. It is the Borg of the non-fictional world. Islam has one goal and one goal alone: to assimilate or to destroy.”

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/FH10Aa01.html

“Islam is not a religion. Considering Islam a religion is a foolish mistake that could cost millions of lives. Islam is a political movement set to conquer the world. It is the Borg of the non-fictional world. Islam has one goal and one goal alone: to assimilate or to destroy.”

Wrong, wrong, wrong. How many times do you nutwings need to be told that exaggeration hurts your cause more than it helps?

Islam very much is a religion. Like any religion, it has fundamentalist branches, and some of those branches (like Wahhabism) may be bent on world domination. Christianity has them too — how else do you explain the popularity of such demagogues as Jerry Falwell, James Dobson, and Fred Phelps?

“Christianity has them too — how else do you explain the popularity of such demagogues as Jerry Falwell, James Dobson, and Fred Phelps?”

None of these advocate murdering of all unbelievers. They do not advocate the death penalty for blasphemy or apostasy.

As an atheist, I appreciate that attitude in a religious demagogue. I don’t see this in Islam. Go ahead, be an artist in an Islamic country, do a “Piss Koran” and then see if you survive the week. All the Christians did about the “Piss Christ” was piss, moan and try to smash it - they didn’t try to kill the artist.

These people may just know a bit more about Islam than you do.

http://www.faithfreedom.org Fight Islamic militancy, militarily and its ideology, ideologically. These are the two fronts of the war against barbarism.

“None of these advocate murdering of all unbelievers. They do not advocate the death penalty for blasphemy or apostasy.”

No, just for jaywalking.

“No, just for jaywalking.”

How many times do you nutwings need to be told that exaggeration hurts your cause more than it helps?

Kanan Makiya: “All Levels of the Iraqi Government Were Complicit.” Interview with Kanan Makiya, May 31, 2005 Home Search Forum Terms

Middle East Quarterly* Spring 2005 http://www.meforum.org/article/718 * Cross-posted with permission

Kanan Makiya is among Iraq’s most prominent democracy and human rights advocates. Born in Baghdad in 1949, he left Iraq in 1968 to study architecture at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology but, starting in 1981, dedicated himself to advocacy for a free Iraq and the study of tyranny. His 1989 book, Republic of Fear: The Politics of Modern Iraq,[1] offered a rare glimpse into the inner workings of Saddam Hussein’s Baathist regime. Other works followed, including The Monument,[2] and the prize-winning Cruelty and Silence: War, Tyranny, Uprising, and the Arab World.[3]

Following the 1991 Iraqi Kurdish uprising, Makiya visited northern Iraq where he organized the collection of captured Iraqi military and security documents. These documents became the basis for an award-winning 1992 documentary, Saddam’s Killing Fields, describing Saddam Hussein’s ethnic cleansing campaign against the Kurds. In 1993, he also organized the Iraq Research and Documentation Project at Harvard University in order to catalogue the documents and make them accessible to scholars.

Since Saddam Hussein’s April 2003 ouster, Makiya has been a leading advocate for de-Baathification and a commemoration of the victims of Baathist tyranny. In June 2003, he founded the Iraq Memory Foundation. He is also a professor of Islamic and Middle Eastern studies at Brandeis University. Sam Spector, a research analyst at the Long-Term Strategy Project, interviewed Makiya in Cambridge, Massachusetts, on January 26, 2005.

The Nature of Iraqi Baathism Middle East Quarterly: What is Baathism?

Kanan Makiya: Baathism is one of the many streams of Arab nationalist ideology and practice. It is undoubtedly the most virulent strain. While Michel Aflaq, one of the founders of the Baath party, was interested in fascist ideology, the party started to fuse elements of socialist ideology with Arab nationalism after World War II.

MEQ: If Baathism is a form of Arab nationalism, how do Baathists define who is an Arab?

Makiya: To Baathists, being an Arab is connected with the degree of loyalty that one has, not only to the idea of “Arabness,” but also to the party that carries that idea, that party’s central committee, and ultimately, to the party leader. In that sense, it is fascist. Baathist ideology in the pure original sense means you could have ancestors going back hundreds of years in an Arab country and your first language might be Arabic, but still you are not an Arab in the Baathist view. The quality of being an Arab is therefore a subjective and not an objective attribute of an individual.

MEQ: How did the Baath Party exert control in Iraq?

Makiya: The Baath Party cultivated a culture of fear when it seized power in Iraq in 1968. Fear became an important and constant feature of Iraqi politics. It is difficult, even two years after the regime’s overthrow, to underestimate the impact upon Iraq’s population of three decades of fear inculcated on a daily basis by virtually every state institution.

MEQ: Have your views about the nature of Baathist tyranny changed since Iraq’s liberation?

Makiya: The basic thesis of Republic of Fear was accurate through the 1980s and the early 1990s when that state was still strong and in control of the country. But the 1991 Gulf war began to change all that. Iraq transformed from a classic totalitarian state to a criminal state. While sanctions and war let Saddam’s regime remain, beginning with the creation of the safe haven [in northern Iraq] and the sanctions, class totalitarian Baathist institutions were eroded in ways that we did not appreciate before the liberation.

MEQ: How did the criminalization of Iraqi institutions impact political life?

Makiya: Initially, and in sharp contrast to much of the Arab world, corruption was much less rampant in Iraq under the Baathist regime. The penalties for corruption were simply too great. The party ran an efficient system that was designed to control the people. Once the Baathist elite began to shed ideology, Iraqi officials began to use the powers of the state for personal benefit through criminal activities of one kind or another. State institutions became riddled with corruption and eventually stopped performing even basic services.

MEQ: Were the highest echelons of the Iraqi government involved, or was corruption a low-level affair?

Makiya: All levels of the government were complicit. Profiteering, black market trafficking, and sanctions-busting became the principal activity of the Iraqi elite. United Nations officials turned a blind eye as top Iraqi officials diverted funds from the U.N.-managed Oil-for-Food program into secret bank accounts.

MEQ: Were sanctions effective?

Makiya: The idea behind the sanctions was that they would weaken the regime enough so that the Iraqi people could overthrow it. But it turns out the theory of sanctions didn’t work out that way in practice. On the contrary, while sanctions weakened Iraq’s ability to threaten its neighbors, they strengthened the Iraqi regime in relation to the Iraqi people.

MEQ: So the coalition invasion in March 2003 served, to some degree, as a catalyst for changing an unsustainable situation?

Makiya: The war made it possible for the country to have a chance—I am not saying a guarantee—of moving ahead in a democratic fashion. The sanctions could not be removed before the regime was removed, and only then could the country pick itself up again. With the removal of the old regime and the elections, we have reached the beginning of a new era. Baathist ideology has, I believe, been dealt a deathblow in Iraq.

MEQ: On April 9, 2003, you watched the fall of Baghdad on television with President George W. Bush in the Oval Office. Can you describe your feeling?

Makiya: It was a wonderful moment. I think that the liberation of Iraq is a great historic achievement of the United States, and I think that it will go down in history as such. I am very proud to have been in that room on that day.

De-Baathification MEQ: Do you believe that de-Baathification, purging high-ranking Baathists from government in the new Iraq, is necessary?

Makiya: I was one of the people who most strongly advocated de-Baathification, and I remain convinced that this process has yet to take place to the necessary degree in Iraq for truly successful transformation. Germany was the main historical precedent for this sort of broad political and societal transformation that we in the Iraqi opposition all looked back to.

MEQ: Is it fair to penalize Iraqis for joining the Baath party? After all, didn’t teachers and public servants have to join the Baath party to keep their jobs?

Makiya: Crucial to the policy of de-Baathification is reaching out to those many hundreds of thousands of people who were fellow travelers of the Baath party—not out of ideological conviction, but out of necessity. They had no alternative, and that was the only way to function in society.

MEQ: How then, do you suggest that de-Baathification could be implemented more effectively and fairly?

Makiya: It is important that there be an open-hearted policy—one that welcomes people to break with the Baath party and enter the fold of society and politics. De-Baathification ought not to be about blacklisting large numbers of people. It is important that de-Baathification not become de-Sunnification. The Sunni community should not believe the policy is in the first place directed against them. Iraqi Shi'ite and Kurdish politicians have to be extremely sensitive to make that distinction. And, remember, this is a matter of perception, as well as practice. Partly for that reason, we have not in Iraq yet succeeded with de-Baathification. Moreover, de-Baathification is not in and of itself a solution to the problems of Iraq. It is only one component of a set of other policies. It really has to be seen in that context.

MEQ: What is the status of the Supreme National Commission for De-Baathification today?

Makiya: It was the major player during the period of the Governing Council, but it was weakened considerably, first by [former Coalition Provisional Authority administrator L. Paul] Bremer, and then by [prime minister Ayad] Allawi’s interim government.

MEQ: What message did the partial reversal of de-Baathification send?

Makiya: The formation of the Fallujah Brigade [in April 2004] was an essential moment in the reversal of de-Baathification. It was by common agreement today a terrible idea and a failure. Its point was to recruit and co-opt former Iraqi officers, who were even allowed to dress up in Baathist uniforms. That kind of reversal had more to do with appeasement—with the vain hope that appeasing Baathists could curb the violence. But the exact opposite, of course, is true. Whether they were for or against de-Baathification, Iraqis recognize what a disastrous policy this reversal was. I expect de-Baathification to become a central plank of the new government.

MEQ: Didn’t de-Baathification exacerbate the insurgency among Sunnis?

Makiya: I think the insurgency would have happened anyway. It did not so much exacerbate the insurgency as make it harder for many Sunnis to break with the insurgency. Iraqi politicians did not explain adequately that de-Baathification did not mean de-Sunnification. We who advocate this idea need to do a lot more in that department. Ironically, the insurgency has made this harder to do.

MEQ: What is the goal of the insurgency?

Makiya: The insurgents don’t want to re-launch the Baath party; they want to return to its politics, its way of thinking about the world. They seek to exacerbate a Sunni-Shi'ite division. Once the conflict is cast in those particular terms, they win. It is, therefore, in the interest of all Iraqis to resist such a transformation. It is important to frame the new Iraqi struggle as being against the Baath party and what it stands for, and not against specific communities. How to do that is the art of politics today in Iraq.

MEQ: What could the coalition have done differently to avert some of the complications and violence that followed the occupation?

Makiya: The central error was the coalition’s tendency to focus on the 52 “Deck of Cards” suspects, who were at the absolute top of the Iraqi state pyramid. As a result, tens of thousands of trained thugs, intelligence officers, and senior army personnel did not believe that they would be held accountable for what they had done under Saddam’s regime. Those people should have been arrested, questioned and, at the very minimum, closely watched. That didn’t happen though, and these same people are now the leaders of the insurgency.

MEQ: Can the United Nations or Europe assist with reconciliation in coming years?

Makiya: From the Iraqi point-of-view, every involvement of the United Nations has been negative. But it is desirable to have the appearance of U.N. involvement. We need to break the isolation that currently exists, with the United States and a handful of other countries shouldering the burden of the Iraq project. The silence of the Europeans, the negative role of the United Nations—the fact that neither did anything for the people of Iraq during their historic elections—is shameful. The United Nations’ and European hearts are just not in the Iraq project. That is unlikely to change in the near future. They might feel it necessary to make some effort, but it will always be halfhearted. In that sense I would say that the European countries, and particularly France, Germany, and the U.N. have actually given succor and assistance indirectly and unwittingly to the insurgents in Iraq. That is a shameful blot on their record.

MEQ: Have any of the states neighboring Iraq played a more helpful role?

Makiya: None. None at all. There is no doubt about this whatsoever: We never expected to have friends in the region, and we still don’t.

Iraq Memory Foundation MEQ: What are the origins of the Iraq Memory Foundation?

Makiya: In 1991, in the immediate aftermath of the last war, I went to northern Iraq to look into rumors that the Kurds had captured tons of Iraqi documents. With the tacit knowledge of the then-director of Harvard University’s Center for Middle Eastern Studies [William A. Graham], I sought to gain support to transport those documents outside of Iraq so that academics and scholars could work with them. The project began the following year at Harvard.

MEQ: How did you get the documents out of Iraq?

Makiya: Both the U.S. government and Human Rights Watch were involved in shipping the documents—about 2.4 million pages—out of Iraq. Outside that original visit, I was not involved in the mechanics of arranging the transfer. The U.S. government scanned the documents, and then we worked on the scanned, digitized versions. We were initially working with about 2.4 million pages. Over the years, we added another 800,000 or so pages that came out of Kuwait during the Iraqi occupation. We got grants from various foundations and from the U.S. State Department to start working on these documents.

MEQ: Did you acquire any new documents after the fall of the regime of Saddam Hussein in April 2003?

Makiya: After the war, I found in the basement of the headquarters of the Baath Party—the Revolutionary Command Council— a huge cache of documents, another 3 million pages. These were of far greater significance coming as they did from the Baath party building in Baghdad rather than from the outlying provinces. With great difficulty, we got permission to relocate those documents to our offices. We have been organizing them and classifying them into various sets. In the second half of 2004, we got hold of additional documents. We now have a total collection of more than 11 million pages, and we face the gargantuan task of trying to scan them.

MEQ: Can you describe what types of things these documents revealed?

Makiya: There are all sorts of categories of documents. For instance, there are party membership files. These give you sociological information about the backgrounds of party members and the ways in which they rose up in the party. There was a wide variety of material in these box files that could be the correspondence of a branch of the Baath party, or correspondence from the office of the president. Nobody has read through all of this. It takes forever. We have, for instance, eight years worth of rumors on the Baath party in the 1990s. This is a treasure trove for future scholarship on the mechanics and inner workings of dictatorship in the Middle East.

MEQ: Was there anything you found that surprised you?

Makiya: We found registers of Iraqi secondary school students with all kinds of personal information, especially political information: when they joined the party, including their degree of loyalty measured by various criteria; whether they participated in such-and-such an event; the loyalty of the members of their family up to cousins of the third degree. So, you end up with virtually a blacklist of the secondary school population. You can imagine the implications of studying Iraq through the prism of these kinds of documents.

MEQ: How do you intend to make these documents accessible to a broader public?

Makiya: We have to digitize them, and index them, and classify them so that we have ways of searching through them. We have developed systems for doing that, and we intend to begin the production of monographs.

MEQ: How is the Iraq Memory Foundation financed?

Makiya: We have received support from the Iraqi government and from the Coalition Provisional Authority and from grants and contracts from the U.S. government. We have also received a grant to take oral histories of witnesses and survivors of atrocities—we have made about twenty films at the moment. We have about thirty more that we are scheduled to make. Our interviews span the whole spectrum of Iraqi society: men, women, children, Kurds, Arabs, Turkomen, Assyrians, Chaldeans, and people of all social stations and walks of life. We are starting a library of victims’ testimonials. Many of these will air on Iraqi television in coming months.

MEQ: Will the foundation be based in Iraq?

Makiya: It is already based there. That is when it started, in 2003, the year of liberation. There is a special prime ministerial order that grants us use of the “Crossed Swords” site in Baghdad for our museum. It will become a national archive, a museum of remembrance, the offices of the Iraq Memory Foundation, and the location of these documents. We also envisage a place where Iraqi citizens can come and type in the name of a missing relative, their village, the period, with whatever information they have and enable them to personalize a search through our extensive database.

MEQ: This sounds very similar to the interactive features at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington.

Makiya: The big difference is that we are located in the country where the abuses happened.

MEQ: What are your long-term objectives for the foundation?

Makiya: We are working on uncharted territory. There is no similar remembrance in any Arab Muslim country. There are precedents in European countries, parts of Latin America, parts of Southeast Asia, and, of course, South Africa. Those of us who are committed to this project believe that it will, in the long run, transform the Iraqi sense of identity.

MEQ: Do you really think it is possible to create a new Iraqi identity based on this collective history of living under Baathist rule?

Makiya: Yes, I do. I don’t think there can be an Iraqi identity without acknowledging that, dealing with that, and coming to terms with that. It is simply impossible. We will either fragment as a country, or we will come together on the basis of what was done. It may take a lot of time, but the healing is absolutely necessary.

[1] Berkeley: University of California Press, 1989. [2] Berkeley: University of California Press, 1991. [3] New York: W.W. Norton, 1993.

“”No, just for jaywalking.”

How many times do you nutwings need to be told that exaggeration hurts your cause more than it helps?”

About as many times as I fucked your girlfriend last night.

Tried for for wit and only made it half way there.

na-na-na-na-boo-boo

Fuck her all you want - to each according to their need, right comrade?

Thank God I don’t go to school in Wisconsin! What the hell is a degree from the University of Wisconsin worth when the mentalities at work here make the inferiority of a Wisconsin resident self-evident?

“Thank God I don’t go to school in Wisconsin! What the hell is a degree from the University of Wisconsin worth when the mentalities at work here make the inferiority of a Wisconsin resident self-evident?”

And yet for all that, it’s still rated as one of the top universities in the country. If UW is that bad, what does that say for all the schools outside of Wisconsin?

“And yet for all that, it’s still rated as one of the top universities in the country. If UW is that bad, what does that say for all the schools outside of Wisconsin?”

Ah, but only for its graduate and doctoral programs. As an undergraduate school, it totally sucks, and the immature posts here are a clear indication of that.

The Business School undergraduate program is in the top 20 and several specific areas are rated in the top 5.

The professional accounting program graduates (5 year program leading to a Master of Accountancy) are number 2 in the country at passing the CPA exam on their first try. They usually have job offers a semester or two before graduation and get a signing bonus.

The only school with more graduates who make it to CEO of major companies is Harvard. Not all are graduates of the Business School - there are other majors that get jobs at major companies.

Yeah, but UW-Madison also has a higher dropout rate, since most of the undergrads here party their asses off their entire freshman and sophmore years. Pretty small pool of grads in the end, don’t you think?

Higher than what? Plenty DO graduate.

Only the strong survive.

“Higher than what? Plenty DO graduate.

Only the strong survive.”

No, only the most determined to succeed survive. Getting drunk out of your mind every other night to the point that you flunk out of school is not considered determined. And no, plenty do not graduate. Plenty more would if they were mature enough to handle college.

“And no, plenty do not graduate. Plenty more would if they were mature enough to handle college.”

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a wonderful Christmas.

If wishes were horses then beggars would ride!

If wishes were fishes we’d all have a fry!

“If wishes were fishes we’d all have a fry!”

I certainly would not! Do you have any idea how much fat and cholesterol there are in fried fish? You might as well bathe in toxic waste!

Baby, can’t you see I’m calling A guy like you Should wear a warning It’s dangerous I’m falling

There’s no escape I can’t wait I need a hit Baby, give me it You’re dangerous I’m loving it

Too high Can’t come down Losing my head Spinning round and round Do you feel me now

With a taste of your lips I’m on a ride You’re toxic I’m slipping under

With a taste of poison paradise I’m addicted to you Don’t you know that you are toxic And I love what you do Don’t you know that you’re toxic

It’s getting late To give you up I took a sip From my devil cup Slowly, It’s taking over me

Too high Can’t come down Its in the air And it’s all around Can you feel me now

With a taste of your lips I ‘m on a ride You’re toxic I’m slipping under

With a taste of poison paradise I’m addicted to you Don’t you know that you are toxic And I love what you do Don’t you know that you are toxic

Don’t you know that you’re toxic

(2) With a taste of your lips I’m on a ride You’re toxic I’m slipping under With a taste of poison paradise I’m addicted to you Don’t you know that you’re toxic

Intoxicate me now With your lovin’ now I think I’m ready now I think I’m ready now Intoxicate me now With your lovin’ now I’m ready now

I don’t want anybody else When I think about you I touch myself…

“I don’t want anybody else When I think about you I touch myself…”

You’re dirty!

Speaking of morally bankrupt… (Republicans aren’t always wrong)

“Trafficking in human beings is nothing less than a modern form of slavery,” Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said. “The United States has a particular duty to fight this scourge because trafficking in persons is an affront to the principles of human dignity and liberty upon which this nation was founded.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/03/AR2005060301530.html

“You’re dirty!”

But here in Madison, dirty is considered normal. I’m surprised you noticed!

[Redman:] Ah, dirrty (dirrty) Filthy (filthy) Nasty (Christina), you nasty (yeah) Too dirrty to clean my act up If you ain’t dirrty You ain’t here to party (woo!)

Ladies (move) Gentlemen (move) Somebody ring the alarm A fire on the roof Ring the alarm (and I’m throwin’ elbows) [7x]

Oh, I’m overdue Give me some room I’m comin through Paid my dues In the mood Me and the girls gonna shake the room

DJ’s spinning (show your hands) Let’s get dirrty (that’s my jam) I need that, uh, to get me off Sweat until my clothes come off

It’s explosive, speakers are pumping (oh) Still jumping, six in the morning Table dancing, glasses are mashing (oh) No question, time for some action

Temperature’s up (can you feel it) About to erupt Gonna get my girls Get your boys Gonna make some noise

Wanna get rowdy Gonna get a little unruly Get it fired up in a hurry Wanna get dirrty It’s about time that I came to start the party Sweat dripping over my body Dancing getting just a little naughty Wanna get dirrty It’s about time for my arrival

Ah, heat is up So ladies, fellas Drop your cups Body’s hot Front to back Now move your ass I like that

Tight hip huggers (low for sure) Shake a little somethin’ (on the floor) I need that, uh, to get me off Sweat until my clothes come off

Let’s get open, cause a commotion (ooh oh) We’re still going, eight in the morning There’s no stopping, we keep it popping (oh) Hot rocking, everyone’s talking

Give all you got (give it to me) Just hit the spot Gonna get my girls Get your boys Gonna make some noise

Rowdy Gonna get a little unruly Get it fired up in a hurry Wanna get dirrty It’s about time that I came to start the party Ooh sweat dripping over my body Dancing getting just a little naughty Wanna get dirrty (oh, oh) It’s about time for my arrival

Here it comes, it’s the one You’ve been waiting on Get up, get it up Yup, that’s what’s up Giving just what you want To the maximum Uh oh, here we go (here we go)

You can tell when the music Starts to drop That’s when we take it To the parking lot And I bet you somebody’s Gonna call the cops Uh oh’s, here we go’s (here we go)

Ohh ooh ohh, yeah yeah…

[Redman:] Yo, hot damn, Doc a jam like a summer show I keep my car looking like a crash dummy drove My gear look like the bank got my money froze For dead presidents I pimp like Huddy roll Doc the one that excite ya divas (ow!) If the media shine I’m shining with both of the sleeves up Yo Christina, better hop in here My block live and in color, like Rodman hair (yeah) The club is packed, the bar is filled I’m waiting for sister to act, like Lauryn Hill Frankly, it’s a rap, no bargain deals I drive a four wheel ride with foreign wheels Throw it up Baby it’s brick city, you heard of that We blessed, and hung low, like Bernie Mac Dogs, let ‘em out, women, let ‘em in It’s like I’m ODB, the way I’m freaking

Wanna get rowdy (rowdy, yeah) Gonna get a little unruly (ruly) Get it fired up in a hurry (hurry) Wanna get dirrty It’s about time that I came to start the party (party) Sweat dripping over my body (body) Dancing getting just a little naughty Wanna get dirrty It’s about time for my arrival

Rowdy Gonna get a little unruly (Ooh oh) Get it fired up in a hurry (Ooh oh) Wanna get dirrty It’s about time that I came to start the party Ooh sweat dripping over my body Dancing getting just a little naughty Wanna get dirrty It’s about time for my arrival

Rowdy Gonna get a little unruly Get it fired up in a hurry Wanna get dirrty It’s about time that I came to start the party Sweat dripping over my body Dance and getting just a little naughty Wanna get dirrty It’s about time for my arrival

Uh, what

We’re up to 259 posts now! Shall we try for 300? Who’s with me?

“Shall we try for 300? Who’s with me?”

That’s what your mom said!

“That’s what your mom said!”

Oh yeah?! Well, that’s what your mom said too! Howdaya like THAT?!!

That’s 261 posts. C’mon people, we can do it!

My mom’s 49th birthday is next Sunday. That’s 262 posts. Glad I could help!

I still wear cords. 263! We’re gettin’ there.

You’re a fuckin’ loser! That’s 264!

I still want to see some artist do a “Piss Koran” and better yet a “Piss Muhammad”. Then send these works of art on a traveling exhibition through the Middle East, Pakistan and Indonesia.

Might take the pressure off the guard who kicked the Koran at Gitmo?

“You’re a fuckin’ loser! That’s 264!”

And you are a UW-Madison student, far dumber than a student anywhere else! This post makes 266.

Speaking of morally bankrupt…

There are some ladies in Darfur who would probably like to do some Koran kicking!

But Fayyad only worries abot the murdering Palis.

All countries have rapes, of course. But here in the refugee shantytowns of Darfur, the horrific stories that young women whisper are not of random criminality but of a systematic campaign of rape to terrorize civilians and drive them from “Arab lands” - a policy of rape.

One measure of the international community’s hypocrisy is that the world is barely bothering to protest. More than two years after the genocide in Darfur began, the women of Kalma Camp - a teeming squatter’s camp of 110,000 people driven from their burned villages - still face the risk of gang rape every single day as they go out looking for firewood.

Nemat, a 21-year-old, told me that she left the camp with three friends to get firewood to cook with. In the early afternoon a group of men in uniforms caught and gang-raped her.

“They said, ‘You are black people. We want to wipe you out,’ ” Nemat recalled. After the attack, Nemat was too injured to walk, but her relatives found her and carried her back to camp on a donkey.

A neighbor, Toma, 34, said she heard similar comments from seven men in police uniforms who raped her. “They said, ‘We want to finish you people off,’ ” she recalled.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/05/opinion/05kristof.html

Last night, I had explosive diarrhea, wiped my ass with Fayyad’s Koran, and fed it to him.

Fayyad misinformed, morally bankrupt

OK, this makes 270 comments. We’re gonna hit 300 by Friday. Keep ‘em comin’! We can do it!

From: Naomi Ragen nragen@netvision.net.il Subject: Blowing up a synagogue

Friends,

On Friday, the morning news reported that two terrorists from Islamic Jihad working out of Beit Hanina had planned a double suicide attack against the Jerusalem suburb of Ramot. They had planned to walk into a synagogue on Shabbat when it was full of worshippers and/or take a bus, or walk into the local shopping center and blow themselves up.

I felt my hands begin to shake.

Ramot is where I live, and Beit Hanina is a fifteen minute walk across the hills.

What makes this especially horrible, is that it is happening all over the country daily since Mr. Abbas took over. There have been hundreds of attacks against Israeli civilians. And those are the ones that are successful. You won’t even hear about those prevented, like the one in my neighborhood, if not for the alertness of our soldiers at the much-maligned checkpoints.

The fact is, things are quiet because our fence is working and our soldiers are successful. But most of the world (Jewish community included) doesn’t understand that. They think there has been a slow down in terror because the Palestinian Authority is doing something. And they think that this deserves to be rewarded, otherwise we will go back to the days when buses were blowing up everyday. We are already “back” in those days, except we have been fortunate enough to catch these people. But all our success has done is to shore up the reputation of a disreputable man and his despicable regime. Below, two web sites where you can read incident by incident the terror attacks that have been launched against our people in the last few months alone. You won’t find any mention of attacks that didn’t take place, like the one that nearly blew up a synagogue in my little Jerusalem suburb.

http://tinyurl.com/dopn3 http://www.jr.co.il/terror/israel/

Every blessing,

Naomi

Whatever happened to Fayyad the Douchebag’s plan to bring his terrorist organization’s conference to UW this fall?

Saddam just loves the Osmond Brothers! 273 posts so far. Let’s hit 300 by Friday. We can do it!!

Deny the Use of the University of Wisconsin Campus to Supporters of Terrorism

http://www.petitiononline.com/stopPSM/petition.html

To: Chancellor John D. Wiley, University of Wisconsin

As students, alumni, and concerned citizens, we urge you to deny the use of meeting space on the University of Wisconsin, Madison campus to the National Conference of the Palestine Solidarity Movement, an anti-Semitic organization that condones terrorism and suicide bombing.

When the Palestine Solidarity Movement held its National Conference at the University of Michigan in October, 2002, delegates chanted “Kill the Jews.”

When the Solidarity Movement planned to hold a meeting at Rutgers, swastikas appeared on campus buildings, including the Hillel House and the AEPi fraternity.

When the Solidarity Movement met at Duke, undergraduates felt empowered to publish flagrantly anti-Semitic editorial columns in the Duke Chronicle, and there was a staff editorial that approved of support for Palestinian terrorism as "an effective means of furthering the (Palestine Solidarity Movement's) goals."

The goals of the Palestine Solidarity Movement include the destruction of the State of Israel "by any means necessary." Israel would be replaced with a Muslim state, this is sometimes referred to as a "one-state solution." Movement tactics include advocating divestment and demonizing Jews with anti-Semitic rhetoric and canards. Delegates at the Duke conference cheered loudly when a proposal to repudiate terrorism as a "guiding principle" was voted down.

Speakers at PSM workshops refer to the national aspirations of the Jewish people as a "disease," trot out hoary canards about "Jewish control" of the media, the United States government, or American universities, and spout hate-filled slogans about Israel being a Nazi state.

In 2003, the Solidarity Movement scheduled its National Conference for the Rutgers campus. University President Richard McCormick took a careful look at the goals and methods of this movement, which recruits students to travel to Israel where they work in coordination with Hamas and Islamic Jihad under the auspices of the terror-supporting International Solidarity Movement, and at the group's blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric. In the words of the New Jersey Star Ledger (Sept. 13, 2003) McCormick "kicked the meeting off campus."

The Conference was held at the Ramada Inn. Rutgers withheld its name and prestige from a Movement that condones terrorism and promotes the hatred of Jews.

At the October, 2004 meeting at Duke, the Palestine Solidarity Movement announced its intention to hold its Fifth National Convention at the University of Wisconsin, Madison.

We urge you to deny this anti-Semitic, terrorism-supporting group the prestige of meeting space at the University of Wisconsin. (The Jewish Action Task Force urges all signers of this petition to write directly to Chancellor Wiley [email protected] A sample letter and further information are available at: http://UWisc.JAT-Action.org/

The petition is old news. I want to know what’s happened recently. Does Fayyad the Douchebag still plan to bring the terrorists here?

Fayyad is a douchebag? No wonder his breath smells so bad all the time.

” Fayyad the Douchebag “

This is an insult to every Douchebag out there!

Speaking of morally bankrupt…

The War Against the Torture Masters Will any Western leader proclaim the Iranian elections a fraud?

The cheerless creatures who rule the Islamic republic of Iran have developed a particularly wicked use of torture. Not only do they use the full panoply of physical and psychological horrors on their captives, but they then send the victims back into their homes and neighborhoods for brief periods of "parole" or "medical leave," so that their friends and families can see with their own eyes the brutal effects of the torture. The clear intent of this practice is to intimidate the population at large, to break the will of would-be dissenters and opponents, and to maximize the effects of the victims themselves, for the brief respite from the pain of the prisons is mercilessly accompanied by the certainty that the agony will soon resume.

http://www.nationalreview.com/ledeen/ledeen200506081046.asp

“The War Against the Torture Masters Will any Western leader proclaim the Iranian elections a fraud?”

Never mind that they ruled that all but a handful of reformist candidates were traitors to the Islamic revolution and unsuitable to run for office.

Darfur and Palestine - A Modest Proposal

Some good may yet come out of the Darfur tragedy. Once the Arab Muslims have killed off the African Muslims they’ll be in possession of a huge piece of territory - many times the size of, say, Israel. The land is also better watered and richer than, say, Israel. The Sudanese should be encouraged to offer their Palestinian brothers and chattel, ahem, sisters a small portion of this sweet land, approximately the size of, say, Israel. The Palestinians could then remove themselves from the savage brutality of the Jews (who won’t even let them blow up children for goodness sakes!) and start a new life on the corpses of a people unable to withstand Arab righteousness. Everybody wins! Well, almost. And by the way, are the other African Muslims feeling a little nervous about now? Only if they’re paying attention.

http://wienerville.blogspot.com/2005/06/darfur-and-palestine-modest-proposal.html

FACT

Most Palestinians who adopt terror in the hope of either “ending the occupation” or destroying Israel do so because they freely choose murder over any other option. Palestinian terrorists also use children, however, to do their dirty work. On March 15, 2004, for example, Israeli security forces caught an 11-year-old boy attempting to smuggle a bomb through a roadblock. The boy was promised a large sum of money by Tanzim activists in Nablus if he delivered a bag containing a bomb stuffed with bolts to a woman on the other side of the checkpoint. If the boy was stopped and searched, the terrorists who sent him planned to use a cell phone to immediately detonate the 15 to 22 pounds of explosives he was carrying, murdering nearby soldiers as well as the boy. The plan was foiled by an alert Israeli soldier, and the bomb apparently malfunctioned when the terrorists tried to remotely detonate it. A week later, on March 24, 2004, a 14-year-old Palestinian child was found to be carrying explosives when attempting to pass through the Israeli army checkpoint at Hawara, at the entrance of the town of Nablus (AP, March 16, 2004; CNN.com, March 25, 2004). Just over a year later, on May 22, 2005, a 14-year-old boy was again arrested at the Hawara checkpoint with two pipe bombs strapped to a belt he was wearing. A few days later, a 15-year-old tried to get through the checkpoint with two more pipe bombs (Jerusalem Post, May 25, 2005).

These were just the latest examples of the cynical use of children by Palestinians waging war on Israel. Young Palestinians are routinely indoctrinated and coerced into the cult of martyrdom.

“Using children to carry out or assist in armed attacks of any kind is an abomination. We call on the Palestinian leadership to publicly denounce these practices.” — Amnesty International (March 24, 2004)

Despite occasional claims that terror is only promoted by “extremists,” the truth is the Palestinian Authority (PA) has consistently incited its youth to violence. Children are taught that the greatest glory is to die for Allah in battle as a Shahada. The PA regularly broadcast television shows that encouraged children to embrace this concept. One film used the death of Muhammad Al-Dura, the child killed in the crossfire of a shootout between Palestinian gunmen and Israeli forces, to show that life after death is paradise. An actor playing Al-Dura is shown in an amusement park, playing on the beach, and flying a kite. The Al-Dura in the film invited viewers to follow him. Similar messages extolling the virtue of the Shahid can be found in school textbooks and sermons by Muslim clergy (Itamar Marcus, “Ask for Death,” The Review, March 2003).

The indoctrination is having an impact. According to one Palestinian newspaper, 79-80% of children told pollsters they were willing to be Shahids (Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, June 18, 2002).

Palestinian children now play death games, competing to see who will be the Shahid. They also collect “terrorist cards” the way American kids collect baseball cards. The maker of the Palestinian cards sold 6 million in just over two years. “I take hundreds of these pictures from children every day and burn them,” said Saher Hindi, a teacher at a Nablus elementary school. “They turn children into extremists.” (Jerusalem Post, December 25, 2003)

Many Palestinian youngsters have gone from pretending to carrying out actual terrorist attacks. More than two dozen suicide bombers have been under the age of 18. Between 2001 and March 2004, more than 40 minors involved in planning suicide bombings were arrested. In those years, 22 shootings and bombings were carried out by minors. For example, teens ages 11-14 attempted to smuggle munitions from Egypt into the Gaza Strip; three teenagers, ages 13-15, were arrested on their way to carry out a shooting attack in Afula; and a 17-year-old blew himself up in an attempted suicide attack. In just the first five months of 2005, 52 more Palestinian minors were caught wearing explosive belts or attempting to smuggle weapons through checkpoints in the West Bank (Jerusalem Post, March 15, 2004, May 25, 2005).

The situation has finally gotten so out of hand that Palestinian families are starting to protest. The mother of one of the three teenagers sent to carry out the Afula attack said of the letter he had left behind, “My son doesn’t know how to write a letter like that and has never belonged to one of the organizations. Some grownup wrote the letter for him.” The boy’s father added, “Nobody can accept to send his children to be slaughtered. I am sure that whoever recruits children in this kind of unlawful activity will not recruit his own children.” (AP, March 1, 2004)

Martin Fletcher interviewed the parents of the 15-year-old stopped at the Hawara checkpoint. His parents expressed their anger at the Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, calling its operatives criminals and saying that Allah would punish them. The correspondent spoke with the boy and read him a letter from his mother asking him to confess and to give Israel all the information in his possession about the men who had sent him (MSNBC, May 27, 2005).

Whenever the use of children in terror operations provokes an outcry, the terrorist groups either claim ignorance or promise never to do it again. Meanwhile, the Palestinian Authority does nothing to stop the recruitment of children or to dismantle the organizations responsible for drafting them in their terror war.

The above post can be found at http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf19.html#cc

Source: Myths & Facts Online — A Guide to the Arab-Israeli Conflict by Mitchell G. Bard, http://www.JewishVirtualLibrary.org.

I agree with some of the posts here where it’s said that more pressure should be put on the Palestinian side of the conflict. Clearly they are doing nothing on their side to end the suicide bombing attacks. It can only be because no one is pressuring them. And no one seems to be interested in directly condemning the terrorists who recruit young Palestinians to become suicide bombers.

Fayyad, when was your last dental exam?

I estimate that in about ten more years Fayyad will need a hairpiece.

“Fayyad, when was your last dental exam?”

It probably won’t make any difference if someone’s gonna knock his teeth out real soon. Fayyad’s pissed off enough people it’s a miracle he’s still around.

“I estimate that in about ten more years Fayyad will need a hairpiece.”

No he won’t. He’ll just get a transplant from his back.

He could also get a transplant from his crotch…just the hair of course!

And if he needed a nose transplant, he could get it from the same area…no imagination required to figure that one out, ha-ha!

Or, if he needed a brain transplant, they could stick a suction hose up his rectum to get some…I think Fayyad’s gonna be really pissed when he reads all this. LIKE WE CARE!!!!

OK, we’re up to 291 comments now. Ten more to hit 300. Let’s make it happen!

“He could also get a transplant from his crotch…just the hair of course!”

Did you just call him a dickhead? HA!

Fayyad(fah-YAHD): an old Arab word meaning “one who’s sexual performance is severely hindered by acute penile dysfunction, often marked by occasional dispensation of meaningless political commentary.”

293 posts. Seven more and then let’s go out and party!

In reference to Fayyad, when you say “penile dysfunction,” do you mean that he has no penis?

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300 bottles of Israeli wine on the wall, 300 bottles of Israeli wine! If one of those bottles should happen to fall, We’ll only have 299 bottles of Israeli wine left to throw at Fayyad on the wall!

WOO-HOO!!!!! 300 posts! We did it!

Well Fayyad, you may be a nitwit, but hey! Look at all the posts you got here. Who says Americans aren’t generous, eh?

“Who says Americans aren’t generous, eh?”

Let’s see…

Fayyad Mohammed Abed Osama bin Laden Adolph Hitler Kim Jong Il Pol Pot Josef Stalin Benito Mussolini Fidel Castro Agosto Pinochet Rachel Corrie Yasser Arafat

In other words, a laundry list of mass murderers and the terrorist-loving trash who support them.

On June 11, 1982, the twentieth day of Sivan, an Israeli tank crew was captured by Syrian army forces during the battle of Sultan Yakoub. The three captured soldiers are Zachary Baumel, Yehuda Katz and Tzvi Feldman. Zachary Baumel is a dual American-Israeli citizen. The tank was photographed along with its crew in Damascus later that day. Eyewitnesses confirmed the “victory” parade through downtown Damascus on that fateful day. This is the last time the three soldiers and their tank were seen publicly together.

The boys of Sultan Yakoub have been missing in action for 22 years. Recent reports have indicated that Zachary Baumel is alive and being held incommunicado by the Syrian government.

The Committee was founded in June 2004. This organizations goal is to educate the public on the ongoing saga of these MIA’s and organize the political action necessary to gain information and whereabouts. Although the organization is named for the only American citizen of the group, Zachary Baumel, it represents the interests of all three soldiers.

The Syrian government cynically allows this trauma to continue while ignoring recent pressure from the United States government. The Committee for the Release of Zachary Baumel will not allow this to happen.

Recent events in the Middle East have changed the prospects for gaining information on the boys of Sultan Yakoub.

The lesson learned from recent failures is that the Syrian government is relying on the continuation of quiet diplomacy. The time for that approach has ended. The world community must understand and be made aware of the status of recent events.

Please join us in this battle for human rights. We need your support now. Register and become a member of this growing family.

This website will also function as an update center for the latest findings and activities of the organization. Thank you.

Stuart H. Ditchek, MD, FAAP Founder, Committee for the Release of Zachary Baumel

http://www.zacharybaumel.org/

Public Law 106—89 106th Congress An Act To locate and secure the return of Zachary Baumel, a United States citizen, and other Israeli soldiers missing in action. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. CONGRESSIONAL FINDINGS. The Congress finds that— (1) Zachary Baumel, a United States citizen serving in the Israeli military forces, has been missing in action since June 1982 when he was captured by forces affiliated with the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) following a tank battle with Syrian forces at Sultan Ya'akub in Lebanon; (2) Yehuda Katz and Zvi Feldman, Israeli citizens serving in the Israeli military forces, have been missing in action since June 1982 when they were also captured by these same forces in a tank battle with Syrian forces at Sultan Ya'akub in Lebanon; (3) these three soldiers were last known to be in the hands of a Palestinian faction splintered from the PLO and operating in Syrian-controlled territory, thus making this a matter within the responsibility of the Government of Syria; (4) diplomatic efforts to secure the release of these individuals have been unsuccessful, although PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat delivered one-half of Zachary Baumel's dog tag to Israeli Government authorities; and (5) in the Gaza-Jericho agreement between the Palestinian Authority and the Government of Israel of May 4, 1994, Palestinian officials agreed to cooperate with Israel in locating and working for the return of Israeli soldiers missing in action. SEC. 2. ACTIONS WITH RESPECT TO MISSING SOLDIERS. (a) CONTINUING COMMUNICATION WITH CERTAIN GOVERNMENTS. —The Secretary of State shall continue to raise the matter of Zachary Baumel, Yehuda Katz, and Zvi Feldman on an urgent basis with appropriate government officials of Syria, Lebanon, the Palestinian Authority, and with other governments in the region and elsewhere that, in the determination of the Secretary, may be helpful in locating and securing the return of these soldiers. (b) PROVISION OF ASSISTANCE TO CERTAIN GOVERNMENTS.— In deciding whether or not to provide United States assistance to any government or authority which the Secretary of State believes has information concerning the whereabouts of the soldiers described in subsection (a), and in formulating United States policy towards such government or authority, the President should take Yehuda Katz. Zvi Feldman. Nov. 8, 1999 [H.R. 1175] VerDate 29-OCT-99 14:26 Nov 10, 1999 Jkt 079139 PO 00089 Frm 00001 Fmt 6580 Sfmt 6581 E:\PUBLAW\PUBL089.106 apps13 PsN: PUBL089 113 STAT. 1306 PUBLIC LAW 106—89—NOV. 8, 1999 into consideration the willingness of the government or authority to assist in locating and securing the return of such soldiers. SEC. 3. REPORTS BY SECRETARY OF STATE. (a) INITIAL REPORT.—Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of State shall prepare and submit to the Committee on International Relations of the House of Representatives and the Committee on Foreign Relations of the Senate a written report that describes the efforts of the Secretary pursuant to section 2(a) and United States policies affected pursuant to section 2(b). (b) SUBSEQUENT REPORTS.—Not later than 15 days after receiving from any source any additional credible information relating to the individuals described in section 2(a), the Secretary of State shall prepare and submit to the committees described in subsection (a) a written report that contains such additional information. (c) FORM OF REPORTS.—A report submitted under subsection (a) or (b) shall be made available to the public and may include a classified annex. Approved November 8, 1999. Public information. Deadlines.

Jewish Political Studies Review Jewish Political Studies Review 16:3-4 (Fall 2004)

A Case Study: Madison, Wisconsin, U.S.A.: A Battleground for Israel’s Legitimacy Joel Fishman

In spring 2004, a group of pro-Palestinian radicals initiated a proposal that would have twinned Rafah in Gaza with Madison, Wisconsin. This initiative was significant, because only a few American cities have adopted Palestinian towns. Its acceptance would have meant a victory for the Palestinian Authority and its supporters by advancing their long-term objective of delegitimizing the State of Israel and by creating a climate congenial to politically correct anti-Semitism. The City Council of Madison met twice, on 6 July and 20 July 2004, to deliberate this proposal. Because the local Jewish community and unaffiliated Jews, some belonging to the “soft Left,” acted effectively, the City Council did not adopt the proposal. Although Madison may seem far away from Israel, the decision reached there has considerable importance.

A Sister-City Proposal Thousands of miles away, in the scenic university town of Madison, Wisconsin, a battle of some importance to Israel’s cause took place. The City Council of Madison met twice, on 6 July and 20 July 2004, to review a proposal to name Madison the sister city of Rafah in the Gaza Strip. This initiative was significant, because only a few American cities have adopted Palestinian towns, and its acceptance would have resulted in further Israel-bashing. Although Madison may seem far away, the decision reached there will serve as a precedent.

A university town, Madison was known in the 1960s as a center of opposition to the war in Vietnam, and became one of the “cause capitals” of America.1 This spring, it was a group of pro-Palestinian radicals who proposed designating Rafah as Madison’s sister city. Their leader and spokesperson, Jennifer Loewenstein, spent time in Palestinian refugee camps in Gaza in 2000-2002 and is a member of the Palestine/Israel Peace and Justice Alliance.2 Her partner in this initiative is the Al Mazen Center for Human Rights, located in the Gaza refugee camp of Jebaliya. It professes to be a nonpartisan human rights organization but has been active in pursuing a virulently anti- Israeli agenda, while entirely ignoring Palestinian terrorism. Al Mazen was prominent at the anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic hate-fest at the UN World Conference against Racism in Durban (2001).3 Loewenstein referred to Al Mazen as a welcome intermediary for establishing contacts with Palestinians and a positive step toward giving them a voice in the United States.

Last April, Steven Morrison, executive director of the Jewish Community Council of Madison, came out against the idea of twinning Madison with Rafah.4 And Madison’s mayor, Dave Cieslewicz, also declared himself against it, as it would divide the community.5 Such a proposal normally would have had a reasonable chance. “What was new this time,” one of the council members stated, was “the tremendous amount of opposition here at home.”6

The Jewish community of Madison, which numbers about five thousand, decided to fight and was well organized. In a letter written just after the first deliberations of the Madison City Council on 6 July, poet and essayist Esther Cameron7 summed up the Jewish community’s concerns:

Understandably, this plan has aroused strong opposition among Madison Jews, who a) know that Israel is battling for its survival and b) worry about the anti-Semitism which has become “politically correct” in many places since 9/11….Aside from the fact that “politically correct” anti-Semitism should worry every person of conscience, a “cultural exchange” with a society that is not democratically ruled, and whose “cultural values” at present include the suicide bomber cult, is not only phony. It is dangerous.8

A Successful Contest The Jewish community of Madison and its leadership achieved an extraordinary level of unity, not seen since the struggle for Soviet Jewry. Larry Kohn, the educator of Temple Beth El of Madison, sent an account to this author of the 6 July proceedings at City Hall:

The debate began with the Palestinian advocate of the sister-city proposal giving a low-key presentation followed by over twenty on our side since the only speakers left were the Palestinian and Loewenstein. People made strong, articulate arguments about Rafah and the links with terror and what would happen with any funding sent this way. The Chabad rabbi, Yona Matusof, and the Conservative rabbi, Kenneth Katz, spoke. I spoke, professors, students, left Zionists and right Zionists, lay people, Reform and Conservative congregants. Loewenstein was almost the last to speak but someone from Hadassah had been missed, so we got the last word. Although it was the fast of the 17th of Tammuz, the Wall was not breached.9

The subcommittee spearheading the proposal had already arranged for a postponement, and on 20 July the City Council voted on the proposal.10 Nine voted in favor, eight against, and three were absent or abstained. For the proposal to have been adopted, eleven out of twenty votes were required. As Larry Kohn described it:

The other side talked about humanitarian projects, but many kept referring to the “Israeli occupation,” checkpoints, and bulldozing. Our side countered by raising the issue of terror, specific references to the NGO Monitor website, and the failure of the other side to accept an alternative city. I was impressed with the turnout on both sides, since so many ordinary folks were involved, and nobody was threatened or got physical despite occasional harsh words one way or another. Democracy is precious in a society based on law.

There is also a larger question at stake, namely, the role of NGOs such as Al Mazen. As a rule, such bodies are extremely well funded and claim to be advocates of disinterested causes, when in fact they are not, as they provide professional help, advice, and financial support for Palestinian efforts to delegitimize Israel in the United Nations, on college campuses, and in the media.11

In the case of Al Mazen, the NGO Monitor (www.ngo-monitor. org) of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs has reported that it is among the organizations that exploit the language of human rights to deny Israel the right of self-defense against terrorism. Al Mazen used a $100,000 donation from the Ford Foundation to promote the notion of Israeli “war crimes.”

Professor Gerald Steinberg, director of NGO Monitor, stated before the 20 July vote:

The mask is slowly being pulled off, through the research and reports of the NGO Monitor project. Donors to such groups are beginning to realize that their money is being used to promote the new anti- Semitism, and Jewish as well as other groups are also fighting back. In Madison, Wisconsin, a handful of anti-Israeli extremists expected to gain the City Council’s approval to “adopt” Rafah, as a means of highlighting “Israel’s brutality” and funneling U.S. taxpayer funds to the campaign. Their Palestinian partner was the head of the Gazabased NGO known as Al Mazen, a leader at the Durban Conference and a major source of hatred and incitement. But after examining the analysis of Al Mazen on the NGO Monitor website, many citizens of Madison woke up to the deception, and this NGO link in the proposal was dropped. When the City Council meets again on 20 July, it may set a major international precedent by defeating what remains of the Rafah link. Countering the propaganda of other NGOs will be more difficult, but the precedent has been established.12

Reasons for the Madison Jewish Community’s Effectiveness When analyzing the reasons for the Madison Jewish community’s effectiveness, several seem to be determinant.

First, the Jewish community showed unity and nearly all of it joined the cause: the Jewish Community Council (which is the equivalent of the local Jewish Federation) took an official position, and the rabbis of the Conservative, Reform, and Chabad congregations and the director of Hillel spoke in opposition. (In contrast, the rabbi of the Reconstructionist/ Renewal congregation spoke in support of the proposal, basing her decision on what she understood as humanitarian considerations.)14

Second, the proposal was generally perceived as a means for Israelbashing. The Jews of Madison viewed it as one-sided with anti-Semitic implications (see Esther Cameron’s statement above). In the debate, the opposition effectively emphasized Palestinian hate-education, suicide bombing, as well as the use of children as platforms for bombs, while using the NGO Monitor website as a source of authoritative information. The fact that the proposal’s supporters were unwilling to consider any place but Rafah - for example, Neve Shalom, a Jewish- Arab village in Israel - also worked to their detriment.

Third, because Mayor Cieslewicz considered the issue to be divisive, he declared that if the proposal passed, he would veto it. Fourth, members of the Jewish “soft Left,” as opposed to the hard, radical Left, and the unaffiliated were split on the issue. A good number of this group, however, felt sufficiently threatened that they joined the opposition. One such group was Kavannah, made up of progressive Jewish students.

Finally, the Madison Jewish community enjoyed considerable goodwill within the larger community.

• • *

Notes

1. Frank Bares, “Midwest City Feels Conflict in Mideast Close to Home,” Christian Science Monitor, 3 June 2004.
2. “Jennifer Loewenstein,” Z-net Middle East Watch, 2004.
3. “Special Edition: 4 July 2004 Al Mazen (Madison/Rafah ‘Sister City’ Proposal),” ed. Gerald M. Steinberg, NGO Monitor: www.ngo-monitor.org. See also “Exchange between NGO Monitor and Jennifer Loewenstein (Madison/ Rafah).” For general background information, see Anne Bayefsky, “The UN World Conference against Racism: A Racist Anti-Racism Conference,” Proceedings of the American Society of International Law, 2002, pp. 66-74.
4. Michael Mylrea, “Proposed Rafah Ties Ire Madison,” Jerusalem Post, 31 May 2004.
5. “Madison Sister Cities Proposal Controversy,” Duluth News Tribune (AP story), 6 July, 2004. See also Amelia Buragas, “Cieslewicz Says He’ll Veto Rafah Sister City… .” Capital Times, 13 August 2004.
6. Bares, “Midwest City.”
7. Esther Cameron received her J.D. from the University of Wisconsin and her Ph.D. in German from the University of California, Berkeley.
8. Esther Cameron, “Letter on Rafah for Our Non-Jewish friends,” 10 July 2004.
9. Larry Kohn, personal communication, 21 July 2004.
10. Chuck Huga, “Madison Wis. Rejects Sister City in Gaza,” Star Tribune, 22 July 2004.
11. “Special Edition.”
12. Gerald Steinberg, personal communication, 11 July 2004.

13. “In a letter to Madison’s Common Council, Rabbi Laurie Zimmerman wrote that residents of Madison and Rafah could mutually benefit from the ‘personal connections of this project,’” Jerusalem Post, 31 May 2004.

14. • • DR. JOEL FISHMAN is an associate of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs. He received his doctorate in modern European history from Columbia University. He was a Fulbright Scholar at the Institute for History of the State University of Utrecht and carried out postdoctoral research at the Netherlands Institute for War Documentation in Amsterdam. His book Diplomacy and Revolution: The London Conference of 1830 and the Belgian Revolt examines the operation of a European peace conference. He served as chairman of the Foundation of the Institute for Research on Dutch Jewry and is currently conducting research on the means of best safeguarding the democratic process in Israel.

The opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of the Board of Fellows of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs.

The above essay appears in the Fall 2004 issue of the Jewish Political Studies Review, the first and only journal dedicated to the study of Jewish political institutions and behavior, Jewish political thought, and Jewish public affairs.

Published by the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs (http://www.jcpa.org/), the JPSR appears twice a year in the form of two double issues, either of a general nature or thematic, with contributors including outstanding scholars from the United States, Israel, and abroad. The hard copy of the Fall 2004 issue will be available in the coming weeks. This issue focuses on “Emerging Anti-Semitic Themes.”

No bankruptcy here!

“Caterpillar Inc. on Wednesday announced a two-for-one stock split and increased its quarterly dividend by 22% to 50 cents a share from 41 cents a share on a pre-split basis,” MarketWatch reports from San Francisco. “On a split-adjusted basis, the per-share increase of 4.5 cents is the largest in the company’s 80-year history.”

This is gratifying because Caterpillar has resisted calls to boycott Israel, which has used the company’s bulldozers in antiterror operations.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=16151CaterpillarStillNotStopped&only

Some other companies to invest in, if only to spite Fayyad and his terrorist ilk:

America Online AT&T Ben & Jerry’s Blockbuster Video Boeing Burger King Carrier Citibank Coca Cola Compaq Domino’s Pizza Donna Karan Dow Chemicals Dun and Bradstreet Eastman Kodak Estee Lauder E*Trade General Electric General Motors Goldman Sachs Haagen Dazs Hasbro Heinz Hertz (rental cars) Hertz Technologies Hewlett Packard Hilton International Holiday Inn Hyatt International IBM Intel Johnson & Johnson Kentucky Fried Chicken Eli Lilly L’Oreal Lucent Technologies Manhattan Bagel Marriott Hotels McDonalds MCI Merck (pharmaceuticals) Merrill Lynch Microsoft Motorola National Semiconductor Nations Bank Oracle Pepsico (as in Pepsi) Pfizer (more pharmaceuticals) Pizza Hut Planet Hollywood Polaroid Pratt and Whitney (primarily airplane engines) Price Waterhouse Prudential Securities QualComm Radisson Hotels Ralston Purina Remax Integrity Realtors Royal Crown Cola SanDisk (developed flash memory) Sara Lee Seagram Seattle (the city in Washington state) Sheraton Hotels Soros Group Sotheby’s Holdings Standard Textile Subway (sandwiches) Sun Microsystems Taco Bell Texas Instruments 3Com 3M Tower Records Toys R Us Unisys US BankCorp UPS (parcel delivery) Vanity Fair

Every one of these companies has significant investments in Israel, whether in corporate subsidiaries, manufacturing plants, research and development centers, etc. Every computer, cellular phone, CD or DVD player, and iPod in the world uses technology developed by Israeli scientists with funding from one or more of the companies listed above. Israeli medical researchers are also at the cutting edge in cancer and infectious disease (i.e., AIDS, Ebola, West Nile, etc.), not to mention emergency medicine and trauma — the latter two a direct result of coping with Palestinian terrorism.

So invest your money in these companies. They’re not only good investments, they also contribute the economic welfare of the one country in the world that does more than the United States to combat terrorism.

Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR) http://www.fair.org

The Mainstreaming of Anti-Semitism - Few raise alarms when media bigs attack Jews

Extra! May/June 2005

By Steve Rendall

The commemoration of the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz, held at the former Nazi death camp in Poland on January 27, featured speakers warning about a new rise in anti-Semitism. "From broken windows to death camps was the blink of an eye," said Moshe Kantor of the European Jewish Congress (New York Times, 1/27/05), referring to the brief time between the 1938 "Kristallnacht" attacks on Jewish neighborhoods and the hatching of the "final solution" in 1942.

The warnings from Auschwitz come at a time when police records and public opinion surveys show increasing anti-Semitism and anti-Jewish sentiment in many places around the globe. The story of resurgent anti-Semitism hasn't been lost on the press.

For instance, the Associated Press reported (3/24/05) that Hitler's autobiography is a bestseller in Turkey, and a Washington Post column (1/30/05) cited a poll showing two-thirds of Italians agree with the statement that "Jews secretly control financial and economic power as well as the media." The New York Times (3/22/05) reported on a new study showing anti-Semitic crimes in France outpacing hate crimes targeting other groups.

So it's puzzling that anti-Jewish outbursts by prominent U.S. commentators get so little attention from U.S. journalists—even when they occur on national television. But that's what happened just weeks before the Auschwitz anniversary.

"Thieving Jews"

Shortly before Christmas last year, syndicated radio star and MSNBC host Don Imus called the book publishers Simon & Schuster "thieving Jews" (Imus in the Morning, 12/15/04), returning to the subject later in the program to offer a mock apology, saying that the phrase he used was "redundant."

Anti-Semitism is nothing new on Imus' show, which is notorious for its ethnic and sexual slurs. In 1998, for instance, Imus called Washington Post media writer Howard Kurtz "that boner-nosed … beanie-wearing little Jew boy" (Newsday, 10/19/98).

When Anti-Defamation League director Abe Foxman complained about Imus' Simon & Schuster slur, describing it in a letter (12/20/04) as "an age-old anti-Semitic canard that still, unfortunately, has great currency today," Imus was defiant. "I wrote a two-word response across the face of [the letter]," Imus told listeners (1/4/05), "and sent it back to them." Besides a handful of mentions in tabloid newspapers (New York Post, 1/5/05; Boston Herald, 1/7/05) and a short UPI report (1/5/05), the Imus affair received next to no coverage.

Rank bigotry isn't exactly a surprise at MSNBC, the long-term employer of Pat Buchanan (Extra!, 11—12/90) and short-term home of syndicated radio host Michael Savage, who was fired from the cable news channel following a particularly virulent anti-gay tirade. Savage is a full-time bigot regularly targeting immigrants, women, gays and ethnic minorities, including Jews (Extra!, 3—4/03, 7—8/03)—despite (or perhaps because of) his own Jewish background.

Not long after leaving MSNBC, Savage, who still retains his widely syndicated radio show, became enraged at Richard Cohen, a Southern Poverty Law Center attorney who filed suit to remove a monument to the Ten Commandments from an Alabama courthouse. Savage's attack on Cohen (11/13/04) reads like a passage from neo-Nazi literature:

A guy like Cohen, who is obviously a Jew from New York, is going after a decent Christian man. What am I supposed to do? Sit here and take crap from him? I think he is a vile human being who ought to be arrested for a hate crime. And I am not going to mince words. And I guarantee you that he says "goy" behind the scenes… . That's next, isn't it? From these verminous Brooklyn College lawyers, isn't it? Go down South and have a tee-hee over the goyim. Laugh at the goyim. Go down there and take away their crosses and they can't touch you, huh, Mr. Cohen? Mr. Cohen, and you wonder where anti-Semitism comes from… . It comes from situations like this, when you have a New York Jew like Cohen going down South into the heartland of Christianity and stealing the religious symbol from Christians.

Besides a mention in the Southern Poverty Law Center magazine Intelligence Report (Spring/04), there was virtually no coverage of Savage's nationally broadcast anti-Semitic outburst.

The Jews who stole Christmas

Imus' pre-Christmas rant occurred at a time when many conservative organizations and individuals seemed intent on erecting an anti-Christian bogeyman out of leftist and secular Grinches who they claimed were trying to do away with Christmas (Washington Post, 12/24/04). There was little substance to their charges beyond a department store chain changing its seasonal greeting from "Merry Christmas" to a more inclusive "Happy Holidays," or that some group or other was challenging the display of a créche on public property. That didn't prevent Fox's Bill O'Reilly (O'Reilly Factor, 12/9/04) from claiming, "If they could, secularists would cancel Christmas as a holiday. That's how much they fear the exposition of the philosophy of Jesus."

Salon's Eric Boehlert (12/16/04) explained the aggressive mobilization in defense of Christmas as post-election muscle-flexing:

Fresh off Republican wins in November, O'Reilly and company have ratcheted up the rhetoric. Mixing a kernel of truth with a grab bag of unconfirmed anecdotes, as well as some outright falsehoods, and then repeating the dire warnings, they've helped manufacture the impression that a tidal wave of anti-Christian activity, fueled by Democrats, is threatening to drive Christmas underground in America.

Indeed, O'Reilly was one of the leading voices in the campaign, regularly featuring "Christmas Under Siege" segments on his O'Reilly Factor show. "Well, the giant has awakened," declared O'Reilly, introducing one segment (12/20/04) targeting "media forces of darkness" who'd dared to criticize the defenders of Christmas. "Millions of Americans are now aware that the traditions of Christmas are under fire by committed secularists, people who do not want any public demonstration of spirituality." In his usual self-dramatizing fashion, O'Reilly made the story about him: "The Factor has been exposing these anti-Christmas people and they are under heavy fire. So this weekend, some in the media stepped up to attack me."

In fact, a handful of columnists had generally criticized the conservative campaign in defense of Christmas and its trumped-up evidence, but the columnists had singled out O'Reilly more pointedly for anti-Jewish remarks he'd made during the course of talking about the campaign.

O'Reilly had admonished a Jewish caller to his syndicated radio show (Radio Factor, 12/3/04) who complained about "Christmas going into the schools," explaining that he'd grown up "with a resentment because I felt that people were trying to convert me to Christianity." Declaring the U.S. "a predominantly Christian nation," O'Reilly told the caller his views were "an affront to the majority" and told him where to go: "You have a federal holiday based on the philosopher Jesus. And you don't wanna hear about it? Come on, if you are really offended, you gotta go to Israel then."

When O'Reilly's "go to Israel" advice was criticized by the ADL's Foxman in a letter denouncing O'Reilly's remarks as "one of the oldest anti-Semitic canards about Jews, that they are not full citizens of a country," the host dismissed Foxman as "a nut" and declared the ADL "an extremist group" (Media Matters, 12/9/04).

It wasn't the first time O'Reilly had played on Jewish stereotypes. Earlier in 2004, when he was running interference for Mel Gibson's Jew-baiting film The Passion of the Christ, O'Reilly asked one of his O'Reilly Factor guests (2/26/04) about the motivations of critics of the film: "Is it because that the major media in Hollywood and a lot of the secular press is controlled by Jewish people?"

Remarks like these drew the attention of a few columnists. As Frank Rich of the New York Times pointed out (12/19/04), in one ominous discussion of the anti-Christmas crowd on his radio show (12/9/04), O'Reilly made what sounded like a threat against non-Christian households: "Remember, more than 90 percent of American homes celebrate Christmas. But the small minority that is trying to impose its will on the majority is so vicious, so dishonest—and has to be dealt with."

Though O'Reilly's antics had all the sensational elements of a big story—the hottest name in cable news spouting bigotry and being confronted for it—besides Rich's column and a handful of others (e.g., New York Daily News, 12/9/04; Denver Post, 12/19/04), O'Reilly largely avoided mainstream media coverage.

Hollywood == secular Jews

One holiday episode of nationally televised Jew-bashing did get some mention in the media (New York Times, 12/19/04; L.A. Times, 12/21/04). It happened on MSNBC's Scarborough Country (12/8/04) during a discussion about Hollywood and the possibility of a "red state revolt" if Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 was nominated for Best Picture Oscar, and Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ was passed over. (In the end, neither was nominated.) The panel included four conservative guests, "moderated" by substitute host Pat Buchanan. All agreed that Hollywood was leftist, secular and anti-American.

Perhaps inspired by the general Hollywood bashing, panelist and Catholic League president Bill Donohue took it a giant step further: "Who really cares what Hollywood thinks? Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular… . That's why they hate this movie. It's about Jesus Christ, and it's about truth. It's about the messiah." Donohue continued: "Hollywood likes anal sex. They like to see the public square without nativity scenes. I like families. I like children. They like abortions. I believe in traditional values and restraint."

How did the panel react? Expecting Buchanan to challenge anti-Semitism is a little like expecting Fox News to denounce conservative bias and, true to form, Buchanan didn't raise an eyebrow. But panelist Rabbi Shmuley Boteach did speak up. While professing admiration for his fellow conservative, and agreeing with him about the pernicious influence of Hollywood, Boteach nevertheless confronted Donohue's Jew-bashing: "That is a bunch of crap. Stop the anti-Semitic garbage." Donohue was defiant, snapping back, "Who's making the movies? The Irishmen?"

It's not the Jews, it's the Jews

Right-wing media watcher Brent Bozell thinks he knows who is making our godless television shows. Bozell, who presides over the Media Research Center (MRC) and the Parents Television Council (PTC), held a news conference call with reporters shortly before Christmas 2004 to discuss a new PTC study of television shows jointly undertaken with the right-wing National Religious Broadcasters. As Los Angeles Times media columnist Tim Rutten reported (12/18/04), the study found Hollywood television shows have "virtually no respect for religion." Rutten quoted Bozell attempting to explain the findings:

Is it because Hollywood is Jewish and taking care of its own? No, I don't think that. In the general public and in Hollywood, there is an understanding that respect is owed to Jews. It's as simple as that. That same respect ought to be paid to other faiths as well.

Rutten spelled out what seems to be the message: "In other words, Bozell doesn't want to say it too clearly, but the Jews control Hollywood."

In reality, of course, Hollywood is controlled by the same giant conglomerates that control most news outlets (Extra!, 9—10/96)—the news outlets that tend to ignore anti-Semitism when it comes from powerful conservative broadcasters and political figures.

The vehemence of these nationally televised anti-Jewish outbursts, voiced by self-proclaimed defenders of Christianity and Christmas, suggests that an aggressive form of religious nationalism has emerged since last November's elections. As the Times' Rutten put it: "George Bush wasn't the only guy who walked away from the last election believing he had a mandate."

No one should be surprised when this nationalism, like all nationalisms, seeks scapegoats.

SIDEBAR: Confusing Israel Criticism and Anti-Semitism

While some examples of increasing anti-Semitism go little noted, considerable attention has been paid to dubious accusations that seem to equate criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism.

Before Harvard President Lawrence Summers drew fire for suggesting that women were inherently inferior at math and science, he stirred things up by proclaiming that a new form of anti-Semitism was menacing academia (New York Times, 9/21/02). "Serious and thoughtful people are advocating and taking actions that are anti-Semitic in their effect if not their intent," said Summers, referring to a campaign to have Harvard disinvest in Israel to protest the occupation of Palestinian lands.

Publisher Mortimer Zuckerman (U.S. News & World Report, 11/3/03), author Phyllis Chesler (The New Anti-Semitism) and law professor Alan Dershowitz (The Case for Israel) have also argued for this expanded definition of anti-Semitism. "The harsh but undeniable truth is this: What some like to call anti-Zionism is, in reality, anti-Semitism—always, everywhere, and for all time," wrote ADL director Abe Foxman in his 2002 book Never Again?. "Therefore, anti-Zionism is not a politically legitimate point of view but rather an _expression of bigotry and hatred."

The idea that being opposed to Zionism—the movement for a Jewish state—is inherently anti-Jewish is a dubious one. From its inception in the 1890s, many leading Jewish thinkers have opposed Zionism on the modernist grounds that secular states are preferable to religious ones, integration is preferable to separatism, and displacing one people to create a homeland for another is unjust (The Nation, 2/2/04). Many if not most critics of Israel, however, are not opposed to Zionism as such, but have specific criticisms of the actions of the Israeli government.

Veteran Mideast correspondent Robert Fisk (Independent, 10/21/02) sees the delegitimization of such critics as a form of censorship: "The all-purpose slander of 'anti-Semitism' is now used with ever-increasing promiscuity against anyone—people who condemn the wickedness of Palestinian suicide bombings every bit as much as they do the cruelty of Israel's repeated killing of children—in an attempt to shut them up."

It is certainly true that some critics of Israel seem to be motivated by anti-Semitism; Pat Buchanan, for example, shows a concern for Palestinians that he rarely if ever displays for other oppressed Third World peoples. But other Jew-bashers are given a free pass because of the false equation of anti-Semitism with opposition to Israel.

For example, when then-Rep. Bob Dornan (R-Calif.), a strong supporter of Israel, called Soviet journalist Vladimir Posner a "disloyal, betraying little Jew" in 1986, pro-Israel congressmember Steven Solarz (D.-N.Y.) rushed to his defense, saying that the ethnic slur "should not be allowed to overshadow Bob's long history of support and involvement with Israel."

The Anti-Defamation League also backed Dornan, with spokesperson David Brodie saying that his attack on Posner was merely "unartful, unfortunate [and] inelegant" (AP, 2/28/86). Brodie added that the group he represented was regarded as "the last word on anti-Semitism. As far as ADL is concerned, this case is closed."

Another downside of expanding the definition of anti-Semitism was pointed out by Uri Avnery (Tikkun, 11—12/02), an Israeli Jew who is a forceful critic of his country's government:

They are branding large communities with this mark, and many good people who feel no hatred toward the Jews but who detest persecution of the Palestinians are now being called anti-Semites. Thus, the sting is taken out of this word, giving it something approaching respectability.

—S.R.

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Fatah admits murdered Bethlehem ‘collaborators’ were innocent

Khaled Abu Toameh

Jun. 11, 2005

Fatah gunmen admitted over the weekend that nine Palestinians who were murdered in Bethlehem on suspicion of collaboration with Israel were actually innocent victims of lawlessness.

The suspected “collaborators” were executed by members of Fatah’s armed wing, Aksa Martyrs Brigades, shortly before the IDF raided Bethlehem in 2002 as part of Operation Defensive Shield.

Some of the suspects were being held by the Palestinian Authority security forces before they were handed over to the gunmen.

This was not the first time that a Palestinian group had exonerated Palestinians who were murdered on suspicion of assisting Israeli security forces. Earlier this year, Hamas admitted that its members had mistakenly murdered a man from a village near Ramallah after accusing him of collaboration with Israel. Hamas also agreed to pay $30,000 in compensation to the family of the victim.

Since the outbreak of the intifada, scores of Palestinians have been murdered in the West Bank and Gaza Strip for allegedly helping the Shin Bet (Israel’s Internal Security Service) track down and kill wanted gunmen and members of various Palestinian factions. Most of the killings have been claimed by the Aksa Martyrs Brigades.

Over 200 Palestinians are being held in PA prisons on suspicion of collaboration with Israel. At least two dozen have been sentenced either to death or life imprisonment.

Most of the “collaborators” in Bethlehem were kidnapped and executed in public squares by Fatah gunmen, some whom have been given sanctuary in European countries after hiding in the Church of Nativity during the IDF incursion of 2002.

Hours before IDF tanks rolled into Bethlehem, dozens of Fatah gunmen raided PA prisons and abducted nine men who were being held as Israeli spies. The detainees were made to stand against walls, where they were shot before cheering crowds.

A leaflet distributed by the Aksa Martyrs Brigades in the city has now referred to the victims as “victims of lawlessness,” hinting that they may have been innocent after all. “These detainees were not protected as a result of lawlessness.”

The group blamed Israel’s military offensive for the lawlessness. It said that after reviewing the files of the victims, “The Aksa Martyrs Brigades has decided to close this case for once and for all. No one is allowed to talk about it from now on. Anyone who violates or tries to create internal strife will be punished severely.”

Following the announcement, the families of some of the victims declared that they would now receive condolences for the death of their sons.

The families have insisted, over the past three years, that their sons were innocent. They refused to accept condolences until the murderers withdrew their allegations.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1118457903886&p1101615860782

Fayyad, if you’ve been following all the posts on this board, it should be obvious that you have overstayed your welcome. Do you really think that the idiots who applauded you the last couple of years will be around this year to cheer you on again? Think about that for awhile.

“Fayyad, if you’ve been following all the posts on this board, it should be obvious that you have overstayed your welcome. Do you really think that the idiots who applauded you the last couple of years will be around this year to cheer you on again? Think about that for awhile.”

Of course they will. You didn’t think they were smart enough to be able to graduate, did you? Frankly, I’m shocked they were able to graduate from nursery school!

“Frankly, I’m shocked they were able to graduate from nursery school!”

That’s social promotion for you!

Fayyad Sbaihat ([email protected]) is a senior majoring in chemical engineering.

Maybe he’s on a summer internship in the Meddle East doing “chemical engineering” of the explosive sort?

“Alliance of misinformed, morally bankrupt supporting Israel” the title says.

Fayyad, do not confuse “misinformed” and “morally bankrupt” with “enlightened” and “free thinkers.” We may not know everything about every issue in every corner of the world, but at least we live in a society where no one forces us to think their way.

It’s called “democracy” and it’s what allows you to speak your mind freely, whether you have a valid argument or not.

“It’s called “democracy” and it’s what allows you to speak your mind freely, whether you have a valid argument or not.”

And you’ll note that such freedoms are available to Arabs living in Israel. By contrast, if an Arab living in Palestinian controlled territories is even suspected of saying something that the ruling terrorist militias disapprove of, he or she is likely to be shot and killed in the village square and his/her body hung there for days as a warning to anyone else who would disagree with terrorists.

“And you’ll note that such freedoms are available to Arabs living in Israel. By contrast, if an Arab living in Palestinian controlled territories is even suspected of saying something that the ruling terrorist militias disapprove of, he or she is likely to be shot and killed in the village square and his/her body hung there for days as a warning to anyone else who would disagree with terrorists.”

And let’s not even talk about a Jew in Palestinian territories. As long as there is even one Jew there, the terrorists will keep trying to kill them.

“And let’s not even talk about a Jew in Palestinian territories. As long as there is even one Jew there, the terrorists will keep trying to kill them.”

Not surpriseing since they are trying kill the Jews even where they live on land they have occupied continuously for thousands of years!

“Not surpriseing since they are trying kill the Jews even where they live on land they have occupied continuously for thousands of years!”

Really, I think they’re just interested in killing as many Jews as they can wherever they can. It’s funny how they falsely accuse Jews of using blood in religious rituals — with how thirsty the Palestinian terrorists are for blood, you’d almost think it was a case of projection.

[“The PLO commits itself to the Middle East peace process, and to a peaceful resolution of the conflict between the two sides and declares that all outstanding issues relating to permanent status will be resolved through negotiations…the PLO renounces the use of terrorism and other acts of violence and will assume responsibility over all PLO elements and personnel in order to assure their compliance, prevent violations and discipline violators.”

Yasser Arafat’s 9 September 1993 letter to Prime Minister Rabin

http://www.mofa.gov.ps/keydecuments/ISRAELPLO_Rec.asp ]

Palestinian Authority ‘won’t disarm militants’ Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:08 PM ET By Mohammed Assadi http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID= 2005-06-13T170748Z01L13128082RTRIDST0_INTERNATIONAL-MIDEAST-DISARM AMENT-DC.XML

RAMALLAH, West Bank (Reuters) - The Palestinian Authority will not disarm militants until Israel ends its occupation of the West Bank and Gaza as stated in a U.S.-backed peace plan, Foreign Minister Nasser al-Kidwa said on Monday.

“Under international law, the Palestinian people have the right to resist this occupation and defend themselves,” Kidwa, the former Palestinian envoy to the United Nations, told Reuters in an interview.

“When occupation ends, it becomes a different matter. It would have to come to a national position to start disarming everybody, everybody but the security apparatus,” he said, referring to Palestinian Authority security forces.

A spokesman for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, who declared a ceasefire with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in February, could not be reached for comment on whether the Palestinian leader agreed with Kidwa’s remarks.

Israeli Vice Prime Minister Ehud Olmert had said in response to similar statements Kidwa made on Palestinian television that the Palestinian government’s refusal to disarm militants was “akin to dropping a cluster bomb” on diplomatic negotiations. Israel has said it would not renew talks on a permanent peace deal until Abbas reins in gunmen and dismantles their organizations as dictated by a U.S.-backed peace “road map.”

The “road map” says the Palestinian leadership must “undertake visible efforts on the ground to arrest, disrupt and restrain” gunmen who plan anti-Israeli attacks, confiscate illegal weapons and dismantle militant infrastructures.

It also calls for Israel to pull out of the West Bank and Gaza, land it occupied in the 1967 Middle East War, freeze construction in Jewish settlements and for the formation of an independent Palestinian state.

Kidwa said while the Palestinian Authority would not disarm gunmen, it would crack down on militants planning anti-Israeli attacks by closing off weapon-smuggling tunnels and munitions foundries.

“These are things we are doing (to crack down on gunmen) and will continue to do,” he said.

Gaza militants have stepped up mortar bomb and rocket attacks against Israelis in recent days and have threatened to break a de facto truce they accepted in March, saying Israel had not respected its part in it by its recent killings of gunmen.

“Palestinian factions view very seriously the Israeli violations and we regard them as a destruction to the (truce) agreement,” said top Islamic Jihad leader Mohammad al-Hindi.

Kidwa said he believed the groups would not resume violence.

(Additional reporting by Nidal al-Mughrabi in Gaza)

^^^^^^^

That’s interesting. So Palestinian leaders agree in front of Western media to disarm the terrorists as part of the peace process, then declare through their own official media that they’ll do no such thing. Sounds a lot like when Arafat would condemn suicide bombings that targeted school buses and shopping malls for English language media, then give speeches in Arabic praising the bombers for murdering innocent people.

Is there any doubt that the world is a much better place with Arafat dead?

June 9, 2005

Before reading the following, bear in mind that the United Nations certified Israel’s withdrawal from Lebanon as complete and total. As such, international law dictates that Nasrallah’s claims have no basis in reality and are, in fact, the ramblings of a bloodthirsty psychopath.

He must be related to Fayyad.

‘Israel must cede more land’ http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3097661,00.html

Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah says seven villages inside Israel belong to Lebanon; expert says rhetoric comes in framework of terror group’s efforts to avoid disarmament

Seven Arab villages currently in northern Israel belong to Lebanon and should be ceded, Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah said in an election rally in Lebanon Thursday.

Nasrallah’s demands regarding the villages have been voiced before and mark the latest attempt to deflect growing calls for the Hizbullah to disarm, Arab affairs expert Eyal Zisser told Ynet in response to the report.

“Nasrallah mentioned this several times in the past, including prior to the IDF’s withdrawal from Lebanon,” he said. “It should be viewed as a tactic in an attempt to avoid disarmament.”

Nasrallah looking for excuses?

Meanwhile, political sources said Nasrallah’s remarks are an effort to extend the group’s “resistance” efforts, after other disputes with Israel on the Lebanese border have been resolved.

The villages in question were annexed to what is today Israel prior to the state’s establishment through agreements between France and Britain, but Nasrallah chose to provide his own reasoning for why the area should in fact be considered Lebanese territory.

Deputy Defense Minister Ze’ev Boim also dismissed Nasrallah’s comments.

“It’s surprising that Nasrallah is even attempting to find excuses to justify his war of Jihad against Israel, which is his only objective,” Boim said. “Nobody is surprised by his threats.”

(06.10.05, 22:18)

Saudis Import Slaves to America

by Daniel Pipes New York Sun June 16, 2005 http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2687 http://www.nysun.com/article/15545

Homaidan Ali Al-Turki

[New York Sun title: The Problem of Saudi Slavery]

Homaidan Ali Al-Turki, 36, and his wife, Sarah Khonaizan, 35, appear to be a model immigrant couple. They arrived in America in 2000 and now live with their four children in an upscale Denver suburb. Mr. Al-Turki is a graduate student in linguistics at the University of Colorado, specializing in Arabic intonation and focus prosody. He donates money to the Linguistic Society of America and is chief executive of Al-Basheer Publications and Translations, a bookstore specializing in titles about Islam.

Last week, however, the FBI accused the couple of enslaving an Indonesian woman who is in her early 20s. For four years, reads the indictment, they created “a climate of fear and intimidation through rape and other means.” The slave woman cooked, cleaned, took care of the children, and performed other tasks for little or no pay, fearing that if she did not obey, “she would suffer serious harm.”

The two Saudis face charges of forced labor, aggravated sexual abuse, document servitude, and harboring an alien. If found guilty, they could spend the rest of their lives in prison. The government also wants to seize the couple’s Al-Basheer bank account to pay their former slave $92,700 in back wages.

It’s shocking, especially for a graduate student and owner of a religious bookstore - but not particularly rare. Here are other examples of enslavement, all involving Saudi royals or diplomats living in America.

In 1982, a Miami judge issued a warrant to search Prince Turki Bin Abdul Aziz’s 24th-floor penthouse to determine if he was holding an Egyptian woman, Nadia Lutefi Mustafa, against her will. Mr. Turki and his French bodyguards prevented a search from taking place, then won retroactive diplomatic immunity to forestall any legal unpleasantness.

In 1988, the Saudi defense attaché in Washington, Colonel Abdulrahman S. Al-Banyan, employed a Thai domestic worker, Mariam Roungprach, until she escaped his house by crawling out a window. She later said that she had been imprisoned there, did not get enough food, and was not paid. Interestingly, her work contract specified that she could not leave the house or make telephone calls without her employer’s permission.

In 1991, Prince Saad Bin Abdul-Aziz Al Saud and his wife, Princess Noora, lived on two floors of the Ritz-Carlton in Houston. Two of their servants, Josephine Alicog of the Philippines and Sriyani Marian Fernando of Sri Lanka, filed a lawsuit against the prince, alleging they were held for five months against their will, “by means of unlawful threats, intimidation and physical force.” They say they were only partially paid, were denied medical treatment, and suffered mental and physical abuse.

In March 2005, a wife of Saudi Prince Mohamed Bin Turki Alsaud, Hana Al Jader, 39, was arrested at her home near Boston on charges of forced labor, domestic servitude, falsifying records, visa fraud, and harboring aliens. Ms. Al Jader stands accused of forcing two Indonesian women to work for her by making them believe “that if they did not perform such labor, they would suffer serious harm.” If convicted, Ms. Al Jader faces up to 140 years in jail and $2.5 million in fines.

There are many other similar instances, for example, the Orlando escapades of Saudi princesses Maha al-Sudairi and Buniah al-Saud. The writer Joel Mowbray tells of twelve female domestics “trapped and abused” in the households of Saudi dignitaries or diplomats.

Why is this problem so acute for affluent Saudis? Four reasons come to mind. Although slavery was abolished in the kingdom in 1962, the practice still flourishes there. Ranking Saudi religious authorities endorse slavery; for example, Sheikh Saleh Al-Fawzan recently that “Slavery is a part of Islam” and whoever wants it abolished is “an infidel.”

The U.S. State Department knows about the forced servitude in Saudi households and laws exist to combat this scourge but, as Mr. Mowbray argues, it “refuses to take measures to combat it.” Finally, Saudis know they can get away with nearly any misbehavior. Their embassy provides funds, letters of support, lawyers, retroactive diplomatic immunity, former U.S. ambassadors as troubleshooters, and even aircraft out of the country; it also keeps pesky witnesses away.

Given the American government’s lax attitude toward the Saudis, slavery in Denver, Miami, Washington, Houston, Boston, and Orlando hardly comes as a surprise. Only when Washington more robustly represents American interests will Saudi behavior improve.

Several French journalists stalked out of a Paris news conference when a Hezbollah official refused to answer a question from an Israeli reporter.

Sety Hendler, who writes for Yediot Achronot, asked Ali Daamouch, Hezbollah’s head of exterior relations, about the status of prisoner-exchange talks with Israel. Daamouch asked Hendler his nationality, and upon hearing that he was Israeli, refused to respond to the question. Hendler left the room in protest, and several other reporters joined him in solidarity. Read the entire article at: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1118197312881&p=1078397702269

PICKETERS NEEDED!!!

URGENT!!!

TERRORISTS PLAN TO MEET ON OUR CAMPUS NEXT WEEK!!!

SEE http://www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=1100

Draft Agenda

Friday, June 24 Grainger Hall of Business Administration, University of Wisconsin 975 University Avenue

7:00-8:30PM Beyond Chutzpah: The Misuse of Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of History

Dr. Norman Finkelstein, Professor of Political Theory at DePaul University, and author of Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine Conflict, will present a keynote address that is free and open to the public.

Saturday, June 25 Grainger Hall of Business Administration, University of Wisconsin 975 University Avenue

8:30-9:30AM Registration and breakfast

9:30-10:15AM Welcome/Ice-Breakers and About the US Campaign

Members of the Madison-Rafah Sister City Project will welcome conference participants to Madison and review conference logistics with attendees. Kymberlie Quong Charles, US Campaign Membership Outreach Coordinator, will introduce the US Campaign, its goals, membership criteria, organizing strategy, taskforces, days of action, etc.

10:30AM-12:00PM Skills-Building Workshop Session #1

Workshops will be practical, hands-on, skills-building sessions that will increase the effectiveness of conference attendees' activism. Conference attendees will choose three out of four workshops. For the media and grassroots advocacy workshops, conference attendees will be encouraged to plug into national taskforces facilitated by the US Campaign. Scheduled workshop facilitators are:

Divestment: Mohammed Abed, al-Awda Wisconsin, Mark Evenson & Nancy Turner, Faculty, UW-Platteville, and The Association of University of Wisconsin Professionals Sister City Projects: Jennifer Loewenstein, George Arida, Jim Goronson, Kathy Walsh, Madison-Rafah Sister City Project Grassroots Advocacy: Josh Ruebner, US Campaign Legislative Task Force Media: Rima Mutreja, Palestine Media Watch/US Campaign Media Task Force

12:00PM-1:30PM Lunch & informal caucuses/affinity groups

NOTE: Lunch is not being provided at the conference. Conference attendees will be directed to low-cost food options near campus.

Conference attendees will organize themselves into informal caucuses/affinity groups in order to network and strategize by common interest. Examples could be by religious, ethnic, racial, professional, or geographic identity.

1:30PM-3:00PM Skills-Building Workshop Session #2

3:00PM-3:30PM Break

3:30PM-5:00PM Skills-Building Workshop Session #3

5:00PM-5:30PM Conclusions & Evaluations

Conference organizers will facilitate a discussion on lessons learned from the conference and encourage people and groups to plug into the work of the US Campaign. Conference attendees who are willing to circulate their contact information can do so and will be encouraged to fill out conference evaluation forms before leaving.

The Crossing, 1127 University Ave.

5:30PM-7:30PM Social Hour/Dinner

The conference will move across campus to The Crossing, a campus religious center, for a social hour and Middle Eastern dinner. Both conference attendees and the general public are invited to the dinner, which will cost $10.

7:30PM-9:00PM Rebuilding Homes, Rebuilding Hopes in Gaza

Cindy and Craig Corrie, the parents of Rachel Corrie, a US peace activist who was killed by the Israeli army in the Gaza Strip, and Khaled and Samah Nasrallah, family members who lived in the house that Rachel tried to prevent from being demolished when she was killed, will present the story that links their families together. The panelists will be introduced by Joe Carr, a member of Christian Peacemaker Teams, who will also peform a spoken word tribute to Rachel Corrie. The panelists will speak about their involvement with the Rebuilding Homes Alliance and there will be a fundraiser for the US Campaign and the Madison-Rafah Sister City Project. The event is free and open to the public.

Sunday, June 26 The Crossing, 1127 University Ave.

9:00AM-9:30 AM Breakfast

9:30-12:00PM Strategizing Session

Conference attendees will group themselves by geography (local, regional, state-wide) in order to strategize and develop a plan of action for their area in an informal setting. Strategizing sessions will be facilitated by conference organizers to encourage the formation of new groups where none exist, to strengthen existing groups, and to create local, regional, and state-wide coalitions that are plugged into the work and organizing strategy of the US Campaign.

“Cindy and Craig Corrie, the parents of Rachel Corrie, a US peace activist who was killed by the Israeli army…”

Rachel Corrie was an ignorant little bitch who thought she was a bad-ass! She was perfectly willing to die just so she could be remembered as a martyr. Well, she’s not a martyr. Martyrs don’t die willingly. And we are not going to be suckered into feeling sorry for the little bitch just to further the cause of anti-Semitism! So fuck off, liberal assholes!!

What the hell is it about Madison liberals that they just can’t go a day without bashing Jews?! Why can’t they exert any energy toward terrorist organizations like Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad? I’ve never heard any one of them say anything critical of terrorists. Never mind what the Israelis do, it’s the terrorists on the other side of the fence who are keeping it going over there.

“So fuck off, liberal assholes!!”

Um, why don’t you read the top of the message? It calls for picketers to protest all of the events listed in the agenda.

By the way, I’m a liberal, and I think the Corries should climb back into whatever slime pit they came from. They support terrorists, and I don’t want those bastards anywhere near my campus.

“Um, why don’t you read the top of the message? It calls for picketers to protest all of the events listed in the agenda.”

Um, I believe that’s what I was condemning. I don’t care for Madison liberals elevating themselves to the level of “the good guys”. They aren’t. Rachel Corrie’s parents are self-righteous bastards who only want to promote anti-Semitism by depicting their daughter as a martyr of the Zionist cause; that is, that she was murdered by Jews.

Aren’t you on drugs, or did you just not get enough sleep last night?

“Rachel Corrie’s parents are self-righteous bastards who only want to promote anti-Semitism by depicting their daughter as a martyr of the Zionist cause; that is, that she was murdered by Jews.”

Isn’t that a good reason to picket their talk? To protest the presence of anti-Semites and supporters of terrorists on our campus?

Again, aren’t you on drugs, or did you just not get enough sleep last night?

“Again, aren’t you on drugs, or did you just not get enough sleep last night?”

I think you’re the one on drugs. You whine about how anti-Semitic the Corries are, but when someone asks for people to protest their presence on campus, you start throwing around juvenile insults.

STOP SMOKING CRACK ALREADY! IT’S BAD FOR YOU!

I sure wish I could make it to picket, if only to see if free speech applies to anti-terrorists.

When I was in school it was the conservative reactionaries in charge, these days, not so much - LOL.

“I think you’re the one on drugs. You whine about how anti-Semitic the Corries are, but when someone asks for people to protest their presence on campus, you start throwing around juvenile insults.”

Fuck you, ya stupid Wisconsin asshole!

“Fuck you, ya stupid Wisconsin asshole!”

I know you are, but what am I?

“I know you are, but what am I?”

Um, I believe this person was referring to YOU.

“I think you’re the one on drugs. You whine about how anti-Semitic the Corries are, but when someone asks for people to protest their presence on campus, you start throwing around juvenile insults.”

Okay, NOW I’m seriously considering an out-of-state transfer! There seems to be nothing but morons here in Wisconsin. I may a native, but damned if I’ll become a product!

“Um, I believe this person was referring to YOU.”

Some references to you:

Since my last report, this person has reached rock-bottom and has started to dig.

I would not allow this person to breed.

This person is really not so much of a has-been, but more of a definite won't be.

Works well when under constant supervision and cornered like a rat in a trap.

When he opens his mouth, it seems that it is only to change feet.

This young man has delusions of adequacy. He sets low personal standards and then consistently fails to achieve them.

This person is depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.

This person should go far, and the sooner he starts, the better.

Got a full 6-pack, but lacks the plastic thingy to hold it all together.

A gross ignoramus—144 times worse than an ordinary ignoramus.

He doesn't have ulcers, but he's a carrier.

He's been working with glue too much.

He would argue with a signpost.

He brings a lot of joy whenever he leaves the room.

When his IQ reaches 50, he should sell.

If you see two people talking and one looks bored, he's the other one.

A photographic memory but with the lens cover glued on.

A prime candidate for natural de-selection.

Donated his brain to science before he was done using it.

Gates are down, the lights are flashing, but the train isn't coming.

He's got two brains cells, one is lost and the other is out looking for it.

If he were any more stupid, he'd have to be watered twice a week.

If you give him a penny for his thoughts, you'd get change.

If you stand close enough to him, you can hear the ocean.

It's hard to believe he beat out 1,000,000 other sperm.

One neuron short of a synapse.

Some drink from the fountain of knowledge; he only gargled.

Takes him 2 hours to watch 60 Minutes.

The wheel is turning, but the hamster is dead.

He tried to join the human race, but flunked the physical.

Old news but indicative:

Saudi Arabia's Council of Ministers passed a series of regulations on citizenship that will likely benefit hundreds of thousands of foreigners living in the desert kingdom, with one glaring exception: the “Palestinians.”

The new guidelines, which serve to amend Saudi Arabia's previous law on naturalization, entitle expatriates of all nationalities who have resided in the kingdom for ten years to apply for citizenship, with priority being given to holders of degrees in various scientific fields.

The rules are likely to help as many as one million foreigners living in Saudi Arabia obtain citizenship, said Nasser ibn Hamad al-Hanaya, undersecretary for civil status in the Saudi Interior Ministry. Another Saudi official, Shubaily ibn Majdoue Al-Qarni, who served as chairman of the security committee which supervised the amendment of the law, said that all foreign nationals working in the country would now be eligible to obtain Saudi citizenship.

But citing a report in the Al-Watan newspaper, the English-language Saudi daily Arab News notes that one group will in fact be excluded by the new regulations: the estimated 500,000 Arabs from Judea, Samaria, and Gaza living in the kingdom.

This select sector of Arabs will not be allowed to benefit from the new law, says the paper, because of Arab League instructions barring the Arab states from granting them citizenship in order "to avoid dissolution of their identity and protect their right to return to their homeland".

“Some references to you:

Since my last report, this person has reached rock-bottom and has started to dig…”

Ah, you must be on the Dean’s List here at UW-Madison! Good work, young man, good work!

“Ah, you must be on the Dean’s List here at UW-Madison!”

Doesn’t that just require the ability to down 20 shots in less than one hour?

I continue to dig but still it’s too deep!

“I continue to dig but still it’s too deep!”

The only thing deep about UW is the steaming pile of manure. And I’m not talking about the cow pens!

Another thing that’s deep about UW-Madison is the cumulative GPA. This place is full of idiots! That is “depressing.”

People here may be dumb, but there sure are lots of lingerie and swimsuit models!

And Playboy models too!

Yeah, but the snob factor pretty much cancels all that out. It won’t matter how many babes there are here if everyone is so anti-social.

“Doesn’t that just require the ability to down 20 shots in less than one hour?”

Nah, that was before they revised the university’s open admissions policy under pressure from students that were here before you and I were even born. That was back in ‘72. Thanks, Mom and Dad!

We need a porn and chicken club here!

We also need more TV programming that is oriented toward lesbian audiences.

Of course, EVERYONE will end up watching. We all wanna see two lesbians kissing.

Palestinian Media Watch Special Report June 24, 2005

PMW report presented to members of United States Congress: Alleges violations of US law in US funding of the PA

Congresswoman Nita Lowey: “I am very disturbed by the findings of this report.”

At a briefing to the Mid East Sub-Committee of the International Relations Committee in the US House of Representatives on Friday, Palestinian Media Watch (PMW) Director Itamar Marcus released the organization’s new report that documents the fact that the US Agency for International Development (USAID) is distributing millions of dollars to institutions and frameworks in the Palestinian Authority that should be ineligible for funding by US law.

Congresswoman Nita Lowey, of New York, told the NY Sun that USAID must respond to Palestinian Media Watch’s allegations. “I am very disturbed by the findings of this report, particularly the widespread nature of the alleged violations,” she said. “I will ask USAID to provide Congress with a detailed response to these findings immediately. This report cannot go unanswered by the leadership of USAID.”

US law prohibits the funding of any governmental structure, institution, organization or company that sponsors or promotes terrorism. US money likewise must not go to honoring terrorists. Yet the 22-page PMW report documents numerous problematic examples in US funding procedures. For example:

Palestinian universities continue to host branches of Hamas and Islamic Jihad, and are should be ineligible for US aid. Yet USAID is distributing millions of dollars to these universities.

PA municipalities have changed street names to the names of terrorists and should therefore be ineligible for US aid, yet municipalities continue to receive money - even for municipal road works.

Last year PMW released a report to Congress entitled “Four Loopholes in US Anti-Terror Funding Laws” which recommended six amendments to US law. In the 2005 Foreign Operations Bill, Congress adopted all six PMW recommendations.

This PMW report documents what seem to be violations of these new US government restrictions.

Palestinian Media Watch

Special Report - June 24, 2005

US Funding in the Palestinian Authority under Mahmoud Abbas Violates 2005 Foreign Operations Bill: Recipients support, legitimize and honor terrorists

By Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook

Executive Summary

US law prohibits the funding of any governmental structure, institution, organization or company that sponsors or promotes terrorism.

Governmental and non-governmental organizations in the Palestinian Authority (PA) continue to receive hundreds of millions of dollars from the US Agency for International Development (USAID), some of which is going directly to frameworks that sponsor branches of the Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorist organizations, and to others that glorify terrorists and terrorism, delegitimize Israel’s existence and promote hatred of the American people, government and values.

This report documents these violations of US law.

Table of Contents

<#Introduction>Introduction

<#1a>1.A. PA Legitimizing Terror and Honoring Terrorists

<#1b>1.B. Frameworks Supporting and Honoring Terrorists

<#2>2. US Funding

<#3>3. Palestinian Authority Promotion of Hatred of America

<#Appendix>Appendix

Introduction

Supporting, Legitimizing and Honoring Terrorists

The presentation of terrorism as legitimate “resistance,” together with the honoring of terrorists, both past and present, was a cornerstone of Palestinian Authority (PA) ideology and society during the Arafat era. It continues today under the administration of Mahmoud Abbas.

All Palestinian universities continue to host branches of Hamas and Islamic Jihad, yet receive millions of dollars in US aid. Numerous suicide terrorists have come from these universities.

Sport remains a prime means of glorifying terror and honoring terrorists. Sporting events, teams and arenas for adults and children continue to be named in honor of terrorists.

Street names have been changed to names of terrorists by municipalities, including those where USAID funding has sponsored municipal road works and continues to fund other infrastructure activities.

International Women’s Day, in March 2005, saw repeated PA promotion of the ideal Palestinian woman as one who joyously sends her sons to die as Shahids - Martyrs who die for Allah.

Israel’s existence continues to be presented as illegitimate. In February 2005, a salaried PA cleric on PA TV promised Israel’s destruction through conquest, after a diplomatic process that would return Israel to the 1967 borders. In May the same cleric preached that Islam would conquer the US and other Christian countries while exterminating all Jews. Musical broadcasts involving children likewise continue to preach delegitimization of Israel and violence for children: “Though [conquering all of Jerusalem] is my dream, I can achieve it with my blood,” says a child in a special program broadcast more than 15 times this past year, including twice in May 2005.

Current US funding of the PA is in violation of US Law

Funding of the Palestinian Authority, its municipalities and its universities is in violation of the 2005 Foreign Operations Bill (SEC. 559.b-c) which prohibits money for any “individual, private or government entity, or educational institution that the Secretary knows or has reason to believe advocates, plans, sponsors, engages in, or has engaged in, terrorist activity…” In such a case, the Secretary “shall terminate assistance to any individual, entity, or educational institution which he has determined to be involved in or advocating terrorist activity. (c)… None of the funds … may be made available for the purpose of recognizing or otherwise honoring individuals who commit, or have committed, acts of terrorism.” (See Appendix for full text)

Congress enacted these amendments after a 2004 Palestinian Media Watch report documented the widespread use of sport and other social and educational infrastructures to honor terrorists and thereby promote terrorism. The objective of Congress was to prevent US money from going to any of these frameworks, so that US foreign aid would promote and support a healthy and non-violent PA society.

Today, US money continues to be used to directly and indirectly promote and honor terrorists. Under the leadership of Abbas, the PA continues to sustain many of the infrastructures that promote terror, and to fund PA ministries that actively support terror and honor terrorists.

For example, the PA sponsors sporting events that honor terrorists. A February 2005 marathon, sponsored by Chairman Mahmoud Abbas himself, was won by a 14-year-old from the “Shahid Salah Khalaf Center.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, February 7, 2005] A Shahid is a ‘Martyr of Allah’ and, according to Palestinian Authority terminology, includes suicide bombers.

Salah Khalaf - or “Abu Iyad” - was the head of the “Black September” terrorist organization responsible for killing 11 Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics and two American diplomats in Sudan a year later. Supporting an infrastructure that honors terrorists is a violation of US law.

In May 2005, the PA Table Tennis Union sponsored a table tennis tournament honoring two heads of the Hamas terror organization, responsible for hundreds of deaths of Israelis and Americans.

US money continues to promote and honor terrorists directly and indirectly, through the funding of PA municipalities that use their budgets to honor terrorists. For example, Gaza has renamed 300 streets after Shahids, including a street named for former Hamas leader Ahmad Yassin. The city of Khan Yunis spent significant money to change “300 metal street signs … most of them to names of Shahids…” and named “the most important street in the city after the Shahid Ahmad Yassin.” (References below).

1.A. Legitimizing Terror and Honoring Terrorists

1.A.1. Reaction to the suicide terror attack of February 25, 2005:

Palestinian terror continues to be presented as legitimate. Although PA leaders condemn terrorist attacks in the Western media and diplomatic circles, the suicide terrorist who killed five Israelis at a Tel Aviv nightclub in February 2005 - as well as every terrorist killed by Israeli security forces and every suicide bomber up until publication of this report - are labeled in the PA Arabic-language newspapers as Shahids - Martyrs for Allah. By granting Shahid status to murderers, the PA media, including the PA-owned Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, are portraying even suicide terrorism as a positive religious act - the supreme Islamic achievement. Rather than condemned for being an act of murder, the February suicide terror attack was criticized as “poorly timed,” “unnecessary” and damaging to the PA. The relationship between terror and the political process is defined as “sowing and harvesting.”

1.A.1.1. The suicide terrorist was honored in all the PA dailies

“The executor of the Tel Aviv operation, the Shahid Abdullah Badran.” [Front-page caption in official PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, February 27, 2005 under large color photo of the terrorist.]

“The family of the Shahid…” [Al-Ayyam, February 27, 2005]

“The family of the Shahid Abdullah…” “�the Shahid’s two brothers�” “�mourning tent in memory of the Shahid.”[Al-Quds, February 27, 2005]

1.A.1.2. The timing and political damage was condemned

Hassan Asfour, Member of the Palestinian Legislative Council:

“This is the first action that no one is happy about. Everyone felt that the timing was not [right] and there was absolutely no need for it… It is not because the resistance [the PA term for terror] against the occupation is a mistake, but because the nature, location and timing of the action are a mistake.” [PA TV, February 28, 2005]

“Presidential advisor Nabil Abu Rudaynah [said the PA] condemns this operation, especially coming after the Hudna [temporary cease fire] and the calming, which were achieved with the [terrorist] factions… The Authority opposes any action that targets civilians. This is a part of the Hudna, which was declared in Sharm Al-Sheik. We oppose any violation of this Hudna. He also clarified that this sort of action harms the supreme national interests of the Palestinian people.”[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, February 26, 2005]

1.A.2. Terror bad because of the “balance of power”

Mahmoud Abbas, Chairman of the Palestinian Authority:

“We announced a ceasefire. In its essence, the Intifada was an intifada of peace and popular. When it moved to shooting it caused us great damage and grievous tragedies. The balance of power is not equal and therefore we have no choice but to stop it.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, February 17, 2005]

1.A.3. ‘Warrior Rest’: Period of calm is to build up power for the future

“They [Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc.] responded to the language of reason, and accepted the call for a “period of calm” by the President Mahmoud Abbas… They understood the need of time for the warrior rest. Our brothers, a warrior needs a rest… when the Prophet, rest his soul, fought his enemies, he did not invade twice in one year. The first year he invaded Bader, the second he invaded Hajra… Our interest requires that we reserve our blood and weapons so that we can cope with what is greater.” [Senior PA salaried religious leader, Ibrahim Mudayris, PA TV, February 11, 2005]

1.A.4. Samir Mash’harwi, Fatah Central Committee: “Rest of the fighters”

“Where do we and the factions (Hamas, etc) disagree?

“Regarding how to reach [the Palestinian goal]. Will we reach it through resistance [that is, terrorism] and resistance alone, or through resistance with all forms of Palestinian struggle: diplomatic activity, popular intifada, armed resistance, achieving international support in the international arena?

“We in Fatah say we have to include it all - and to choose the appropriate time for the rifle and the appropriate time for negotiations… We see this period of negotiations as the ‘rest of the fighters.’” [PA TV, January 10, 2005]

1.A.5. The High Commissioner of National Education:

“We expect to utilize all that we have sowed and sacrificed [and expect] that the political leadership, headed by our brother Abu Mazen, will succeed to begin the harvesting process…” [PA TV February 11, 2005]

1.B. Frameworks Supporting Terror and Honoring Terrorists

1.B.1. PA Ministry of Education and Higher Learning - Active university-sponsored terrorist branches on campus

The PA Ministry of Education and Higher Learning actively funds terrorism, as every university in the Palestinian Authority has a branch of Hamas and Islamic Jihad - both of which are on the US list of terror organizations. The Hamas and Islamic Jihad student branches at the PA universities have historically been a breeding ground for terrorists, as campus structures are used to promote murder and terror, and to recruit and plan terrorist activities. Numerous terrorists, including suicide terrorists, have been recruited from these university terror organizations. The 21-year-old woman terrorist caught on June 20, 2005 with 15 pounds of explosives hidden in her underwear - on her way to a planned terror attack at an Israeli hospital - was a student at Al-Quds Open University.

1.B.1.1. The following are examples from the PA media, documenting the existence of terrorist organizations in PA universities and various activities:

1.B.1.1.1. Al-Najah University

“Al-Kutlah Al-Islamiyah [‘The Islamic Bloc,’ Hamas’ student organization] in the Faculty of Technology of Al-Najah National University yesterday organized the ‘Bridge of the Shahids’ exhibition… The exhibition was opened by the Faculty Dean, Dr. Samir Mayalah, and some lecturers and a representative of the Islamic Bloc [i.e. Hamas]. The exhibition is a part of the activities marking Shahids’ Week.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, March 29, 2005]

“Al-Kutlah Al-Islamiyah [of Hamas] of Al-Najah National University organized a mass assembly in which a member of the political bureau of the Islamic Resistance Movement, “Hamas,” in Nablus, Mahmoud Ghazal … said: ‘The movement shall not forget the great Shahids and the great leaders of the Palestinian nation, and foremost the Shahid, the Imam Ahmad Yassin, the Shahid Dr. Abd Al-Aziz Al-Rantisi…” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, April 10, 2005]

A month after 15 Israelis were murdered in the August 2001 Sbarro Pizzeria bomb, Al-Kutlah Al-Islamiyah [Hamas] at the Al-Najah University created a horrific celebration, by building a mock Sbarro pizza shop and decorating the walls and tables with images of pizza and body parts.

In spite of this open sponsorship of Hamas on campus and the active Hamas branch, Al-Najah University is a recipient of USAID funding. See <#s21>Section 2.1 below.

1.B.1.1.2. Al-Quds Open University

“In Hebron an assembly was organized yesterday, marking the first anniversary of the assassination of the Islamic Resistance Movement - “Hamas” - founder, Sheik Ahmed Yassin, and of its leader, Dr. Abd Al-Aziz Al-Rantisi. The assembly was organized by Al-Kutlah Al-Islamiyah [of Hamas] in the Al-Quds Open University… Taysir Abu Sakur, on behalf of the university’s administration … recalled the Shahids of our people…” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, 22/03/05]

“During a symposium organized by the Al-Quds Open University in northern Gaza, … a member of the political bureau of the Popular Front [for the Liberation of Palestine] said, ‘Our duty is to turn the election procedure into a campaign against the Occupation and the American plan… The United States is interested in turning the elections to its favor, and interested in reorganizing our people and institutions so it would fit the United States plans’.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, April 20, 2005. It should be noted that in the language of the terrorist groups and the Palestinian Authority, the term ‘the Occupation’ refers to all of Israel, and not just the territories.]

In spite of this active terrorist branch, Al-Quds Open University is a recipient of USAID funding. See <#s21>Section 2.1 below.

1.B.1.1.3. Al-Azhar University

“The council of students’ union at Al-Azhar University and the Fatah Al-Shabiba Organization held a students’ mass meeting yesterday, under the title ‘Oath and Loyalty to the Shahids,’ marking the anniversary of the death as a Shahid of the Prince of the Shahids, Khalil Al-Wazir “Abu Jihad…” The Gaza Al-Azhar University President, Dr. Hani Najem, emphasized in his speech that our people will continue to be loyal to the blood of our Shahids…

“Head of the Fatah Al-Shabiba Organization, Abd Al-Hakim Awd, described Al-Azhar University as the University of the Shahids.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, April 20, 2005]

In spite of this active terrorist branch, Al-Azhar University is a recipient of USAID funding. See <#s21>Section 2.1 below.

1.B.1.1.4. Arab-American University

“Al-Kutlah Al-Islamiyah [of Hamas] of the Arab-American University in Jenin…” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, March 1, 2005]

Headline: “An assembly of the parties running for elections of the student council at the Arab-American University…”

“These are the parties: The Islamic Loyalty Bloc, a coalition of Al-Kutlah Al-Islamiyah and Al-Jamaa’ Al-Islamiyah [Islamic Jihad]; the Al-Aqsa Shahids Bloc, representing the Al-Shabibah Student Movement [of Fatah]; the Unity Students Bloc [of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine]; [and] the Shahid Abu Ali Mustafa Bloc [of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine].” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, March 15, 2005]

In spite of these active terrorist Hamas and Islamic Jihad branches, the American University is a recipient of USAID funding. See <#s21>Section 2.1 below.

1.B.1.1.5. Islamic University

“Al-Kutlah Al-Islamiyah [of Hamas] won the elections for the male student council and for the female student council at the Islamic University.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, March 15, 2005]

“The senior [leader] in the Hamas, Sheik Isma’il Hania, spoke in front of thousands of students … in the Islamic University in Gaza … [saying] ‘the American and Zionist attempts will not succeed in dismantling the Resistance of its weapon. The Resistance will not desert its weapon and will not hand it to anyone, because it is the weapon of Jihad, resistance, honor, nobility and a wing to hit the [Zionist] lie and defend the people”. [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, January 4, 2005]

In spite of this open support of terrorists on campus and the active Hamas branch, the Islamic University is a recipient of USAID funding. See <#s21>Section 2.1 below.

1.B.4.1.6. Bethlehem University

“The Unity Students Bloc at Bethlehem University … [is] commemorating the 36th anniversary of the founding of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine…” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, March 1, 2005]

In spite of this open support of terrorists on campus and the active terrorist branch, Bethlehem University is a recipient of USAID funding. See <#s21>Section 2.1 below.

1.B.1.1.7. Bir Zeit University

“The Minister of Negotiations Dr. Sa’eb Erekat … said in Bir Zeit University, ‘Israel was a functional state from the beginning, and was established for the sake of defending Western interests… Bush has appointed himself as being responsible for and a negotiator on behalf of the Palestinians, as he approved his unilateral separation plan on April 15th last year, but no one can negotiate on our behalf.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, February 7, 2005]

In spite of this open support of terrorists on campus and the active Hamas branch - Bir Zeit University is a recipient of USAID funding. See <#s21>Section 2.1 below.

1.B.1.1.8. Hebron University

“…The university decided to grant scholarships named for the journalist Mazen Da’na.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, January 4, 2005. Mazen Da’na was a TV cameraman shot by American forces in Iraq on August 17, 2003, as his camera was suspected of being a grenade launcher]

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In spite of this open support of terrorists on campus and the active Hamas branch, Hebron University is a recipient of USAID funding. See <#s21>Section 2.1 below.

1.B.1.2. Terrorists who have come directly from PA university activity include:

Mahmoud Shuraytakh: Chairman of Al-Kutlah Al-Islamiyah of Hamas and of the Student Council at Bir Zeit University. Planned a suicide attack on a bus in Tel Aviv September 19, 2002, in which six Israelis were murdered and 71 injured.

Ihab Abdul Qadir Mahmoud Abu Salim: Arab Language student and a member of Al-Kutlah Al-Islamiyah at Bir Zeit University. Carried out a suicide attack at Zerifin September 9, 2003, in which eight Israelis were murdered and about 20 injured.

Daya Muhammad Hussein Al-Tawil: Engineering student at Bir Zeit University and a member of Al-Kutlah Al-Islamiyah. Carried out a suicide attack at the French Hill junction in Jerusalem March 27, 2001, in which 29 Israelis were injured.

Ramiz Ubaid: Student and a member of Al-Jama’a Al-Islamiyah (Islamic Jihad) at Bir Zeit University. Carried out a suicide attack at Dizengoff Center in Tel Aviv March 3, 1996, in which 13 Israelis were murdered and 118 injured.

Hamid Abu Hajlah: Engineering student and a member of Al-Kutlah Al-Islamiyah at Al-Najah University. Carried out a suicide attack in Netanya on January 1, 2001, in which three Israelis were injured.

Ramiz Abu Salim: Hamas activist and a student at Al-Quds Open University branch in Al-Birah. Carried out a suicide attack at Cafe Hillel in Jerusalem September 9, 2003, in which seven Israelis were murdered and about 20 injured.

Muhammad Al-Rul: Hamas activist and a student at Al-Najah University. Carried out a suicide attack in Jerusalem June 18, 2002, in which 19 Israelis were murdered and 42 injured.

1.B.1.3. PA Deceives USAID regarding renaming of schools

In addition, many schools are named for terrorists - celebrating them as role models and heroes for children. In the lead-up to the recent PA municipal elections, the December 14, 2004 Al-Hayat Al-Jadida published a list of ballot box locations, which included 34 schools named for Shahids and/or terrorists.

One significant mention was the Dalal Al-Mughrabi High School for Girls, in the Shuyukh district, near Hebron. Al-Mughrabi was a woman terrorist who killed 36 people, including American nature photographer Gail Rubin in 1978.

In August 2002, Palestinian Media Watch reported that USAID was funding renovations in this school. The State Department immediately froze the funding to the school, conditioning a return of the funding to having the school’s name changed. Larry Garber, then-USAID Mission Director in the West Bank and Gaza, told Reuters at the time that it was of “critical importance” that US funds were not associated with projects that glorify “terrorism or other forms of violence.” The school promised USAID officials that it had changed the name and USAID was quick to reinstate the funding, which had been frozen for only 24 hours. Philip Davies, Vice-President of the subcontracting NGO, ANERA, told The Jerusalem Post, “They changed the name back. So there’s no issue any more.”

However, this appeared in a recent list of polling stations:

“…the Dalal Al-Mughrabi High School for Girls, in the election area of the Shuyukh in the Hebron district.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, December 14, 2004]

It is clear that USAID was deceived, or failed to follow up on the issue. Either the PA never changed the name, or waited just long enough to receive US money, then reverted to the name of the notorious female terrorist.

This lack of follow-up applies to other USAID-funded projects. In June 2004, a Palestinian Media Watch report on loopholes in US foreign aid revealed that some $410,000 in American aid had helped finance the Salah Khalaf Recreation and Sports Center near Nablus. Salah Khalaf, also known as Abu Iyad, was leader of the Palestinian Black September terror organization that was responsible for the massacre of 11 Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics and the killing of two US diplomats in Sudan the following year. Various references in honor of Salah Khalaf by the Palestinian Authority have been already been listed in this report.

Following the publication of the Palestinian Media Watch report, members of the US Congress acted immediately to tighten US foreign aid regulations. USAID’s Garber said the agency would demand that the name of the stadium be changed. “We are having a dialogue with the appropriate Palestinian officials on the subject,” Garber told The Washington Times in June last year. However, Palestinian Media Watch has recently contacted the local municipality, and was informed that the stadium is still named after the terrorist Salah Khalaf.

1.B.2. Naming Sporting Events and Teams for Terrorists - 2005

The following are examples of the continued use of sporting events in 2005 to honor and create role models of terrorists. These sports infrastructures are funded by the PA Ministry of Youth and Sport from the general PA budget.

“The tournament … for 17-year-old boys takes place at the Shahid Sa’ed Sa’el Hall. The tournament is organized by the Ministry of Youth and Sports… [The teams:] The Shahid Salah Khalaf team, the Shahid Nabil Qablan team and the Shahid Atif Bsiso team.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, January 25, 2005. Salah Khalef “Abu Iyad” (1930-1991) was a founder of the Fatah terrorist organization and head of the “Black September” terrorist organization. Responsible for killing 11 Israeli Olympic and two American diplomats. Ataf Bsiso was Abu Iyad’s deputy. He was killed in Paris in 1992. Sa’ed Sa’el (1931-1982) was a senior Fatah man, Chief-of-Staff of the Palestinian-Lebanese terrorist forces and Director of the PLO Anti-IDF operation center until 1982.]

“Al-Fallah Sports Center … announced that it will hold a table-tennis tournament early next week … [including the teams:] “The return” mosque team (Al-Auda) and the Shahid Imad Aqel team.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, January 27, 2005. Imed Aqel was a senior Hamas terrorist before being killed by Israeli forces.]

“The Shahid Khaled Abu Salmia Memorial Football Tournament, … under the supervision of the Palestinian Football Association…” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, January 16, 2005. Khaled Abu Salmia was the field commander of the Hamas’ Izz Al-Din Al-Kassam Brigades.]

“The team trained at the Shahid Salah Khalaf [Abu Iyad] Center…” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, January 25, 2005]

“The Shahid Salah Khalaf Cultural Center, in cooperation with the Shahid Rafik Al-Islami Hall, under the sponsorship of Amin Al-Hindi, the commander of the general intelligence, have organized a football tournament … in memory of the anniversary of the Shahada death of the three leaders, the Shahid Ha’el Abd Al-Hamid, the Shahid Fakhri Al-Umri, and the Shahid Salah Khalaf [Abu Iyad]. The tournament took place at the Shahid Sa’ed Sa’el Hall…” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, January 17, 2005. Ha’el Abd Al-Hamid “Abu Al-Hul” was a founder of the Fatah terror organization, Sa’ed Sa’el was a senior Fatah terrorist.]

“The Tulkarem Culture [Club] junior team … won the tournament cup… The tournament was organized by the Al-Quds Open University. The participating teams: the Al-Quds Open University team, … [and] the Shahid Fadi Bahti team…” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, January 17, 2005. Fadi Bassam Mahmoud Bahti was an Islamic Jihad leader in Nablus. He was an explosives expert, in charge of a bomb-building lab and was responsible for sending suicide terrorists to Israel.]

“The marathon, organized by the National Association of Shahids’ Families of Palestine, under the supervision of the Palestinian Athletics Association and sponsored by the President of the Palestinian Authority “Abu Mazen” Mahmoud Abbas, has ended. It was held in honor of his victory in the presidential elections… The three kilometer race for children under 14 years of age was won by Mahmoud Abu Kwik from the Shahid Salah Khalaf center…” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, February 7, 2005]

Ahmed Al-Kidwa, chairman of the Palestinian Olympic committee:

“When we joined the Fatah movement, we joined as potential Shahids. Many of our brothers died as Shahids during our struggle.” He emphasized, “The main aim is to reach one of the two positive goals: victory or Shahada. The person, who arrived as a potential Shahid, may not cease before he reaches one of these positive goals: either Shahada and joining his brothers who preceded him, or achieving the full victory which we desire for our nation.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, January 17, 2005]

1.B.2. Naming Streets for Terrorists

1.B.2.1. Gaza

“Gaza City Council decided to name one of the streets in city after the Shahid, the distinguished Sheik [and former Hamas Leader] Ahmad Yassin, in perpetuation and cherishing of his struggle and sacrifice. The council Spokesmen, Nassar Al-Suiwair … said that since it began its term ten years ago, the city council has named over three hundred streets after a large group of Arab and Palestinian Shahids…

“The city council announced that the American Agency for Development has decided to grant the city council three hundred and eighty thousand dollars, as a part of the ‘Cash Transfer’ program, in cooperation with the Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Local Government, to cover some of the cost of repairing the damages in the water and sewage systems in the Al-Zaitun neighborhood.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, May 24, 2004]

1.B.2.2. Khan Yunis

“Yesterday, the city council of Khan Yunis began a campaign to name streets after Shahids and historical cities�

“Mayor Dr. Osama Al-Farah: “The city council will work … to name the most important street in the city after [the former Hamas Leader,] theShahid Ahmad Yassin�

“In addition [streets will be named for]… Haifa and Acco.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, May 31, 2004]

“The mayor of Khan-Yunis, Dr. Osama Al-Farah, said yesterday that the council crews finished the project of naming the city streets during which some 300 metal signs were put on many streets. Most of [the streets] carry the names of Shahids, commanders and Palestinian cities, which were conquered by the Israeli Army during the period of 1948-1967.

“Al-Farah clarified that the city council initiated the project of changing the street names … in light of the importance of these names in affixing great historical events in the hearts and minds of the people, particularly among the younger generation, in order to engrave the Israeli crimes, which led to the robbery of our cities and villages, in their memory…” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, June 28, 2004]

“Yesterday the Khan Yunis City Council named a main street after the Shahid Amer Abu Sitta, the chief commander of the Ahmad Abu Al-Rish Brigades…

“The city council agreed to name the street leading from the Shahid Ahmad Yassin Street to the Shahid Cemetery Street in the south, after the Shahid Abu Sitta, in light of the Council’s belief in the importance of these names in affixing great historical events in the hearts and minds of the people, particularly among the younger generation…” [Al-Ayyam, August 10, 2004. Amer Abu Sitta murdered Israeli citizen Uri Magidish in a terrorist attack in the early ’90s. As the commander of the Abu Rish Brigades, Abu Sitta was responsible for many terrorist attacks. The terrorist attack against the American diplomatic convoy in October 2003 was related to the Abu Rish Brigades.]

1.B.3. PA officials and PA TV - March 2005

Glorifying mothers who send sons to Shahada, or death for Allah

Background: Al Khansah archetypal mother of warrior and Shahids - The ideal Palestinian Woman

Al-Khansah was a poet in the early Islamic period. Before her conversion to Islam, her brothers died, and she grieved. Islamic historian Ibn Athir writes that after she converted to Islam, she encouraged her four sons to go into battle for Allah. When all four were killed, she wrote a poem of joy - rejoicing that Allah had honored her with the deaths of her sons.

Al-Khansah is considered the archetypal mother of Shahids, a woman honored by Islam for encouraging her sons to kill and die for Allah, and rejoicing when they achieved their Shahada deaths.

Al-Khansah and the Palestinian Authority

From a very young age, Palestinian girls are taught to adopt Al-Khansah as a role model for her message of celebrating death in combat of Shahids. The Palestinian Authority has named at least five girls’ schools “the Al-Khansah School for Girls,” in:

Bethlehem;

Jenin;

Nablus;

Khan Yunis; and

Rafah

[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, January 9, 2005]

A music video for children, broadcast hundreds of times over three years on PA TV, included the farewell letter of a child Shahid, including the words: “Mother don’t cry for me, be joyous over my blood.”

The following are the transcripts of these portrayals of the ideal Palestinian woman as one who celebrates her son’s death.

1.B.3.1. Friday TV sermon, Sheik Yusuf Juma’ Salamah, Minister of the Waqf, in the presence of PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and other senior PA members

“Al-Khansah, this noble woman… The day she lost her brother Sakher [before she adopted Islam] she began crying, shouting and feeling pain. She recited poetry: “The sunrise reminds me of Sakher, and I remember him with every sunset, and had there not been around me all the mourners for their brothers, I would have killed myself”. This was during the Jahiliya [the pre-Islamic period]. When Allah filled her heart with love for Islam, and it became full of faith, things changed. She sent her four sons, her offspring, to battle, to Qadisiya [near Iraq] as a service to this religion. When she was notified that they had become Shahids, she said, ‘Praise Allah, who granted me honor with their deaths. I pray that he will take me to them at the place where His mercy dwells.’ This is the great woman. This is the noble woman. Have you seen how Islam changed her behavior, her virtues, and her poetry?” [Official Friday sermon, PA TV, March 11, 2005]

1.B.3.2. Educational TV program “My knowledge, your knowledge”

A young child asks his father: “My father, my father, who is this woman?”

Father: “This is the poet Tumarid, who is known by name Al-Khansah. She was one of the prettiest women of her time…”

Female host: “When [before she adopted Islam] her brother Mu’awiya died, and after that her brother on her father’s side, Sakher, she became extremely mournful because of them.”

Al-Khansah: “I was extremely saddened for Sakher, until my eyes became blind. In the Qadisiya battle, four sons of mine became Shahids.”

Father: “When she was told of her four sons’ deaths, she pleaded to the Creator, to him be the glory and power, and said, “Praise Allah, who granted me honor with their deaths.” [PA TV, March 13, 2005]

1.B.3.3. The Dean of Al-Aqsa University Faculty of Media, Dr Hussein Abu Shanab [on behalf of the University’s Dean]:

“The Palestinian woman - our hearts are full of respect and admiration for her, as she is a unique woman for several reasons: she is the Shahid’s mother; and she is the one who shouts for joy on the Day of the Shahid and she is the one who shouts for joy, while her son is a prisoner, and she is the one who shouts for joy, when her son is arrested…” [PA TV, March 10, 2005]

1.B.5. PA Ministry of Health

Even the PA Ministry of Health, which is a recipient of USAID money, has hospitals named for Shahids, including the Shahid Kamal Adwan Hospital. Adwan was one of the commanders of “Black September,” which was responsible for the murders of 11 Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics, as well as the murders of two American diplomats in Sudan.

USAID in the past funded the Shahid Kamal Adwan Hospital directly. [Al-Ayyam, February 18, 2004].

USAID funds numerous projects of the PA Ministry of Health, which by definition is honoring terrorists by having hospitals named for terrorists, and should therefore not be eligible for US foreign aid.

1.B.6. PA Ministry of Finance

“The Association of the Palestinian Youth [Community] Center organized a ceremony in honor of the Shahids of Al-Shaja’iya, and the inauguration of a memorial monument [in] “the Shahids’ Square in Al-Shaja’iya. The inauguration was under the auspices of the Deputy Minister of Finance, Abu Osama Muhammad, and in the presence of parliament members…

“The Chairman of the Association’s Board of Directors, Sameh Al-Wadia, made a speech, in which he emphasized the importance of the loyalty to the Shahids and spoke of the anniversary of the Shahids Sallah Khalaf, Ha’el Abd Al-Hamid and Fakhri Al-Omari, which took place on the day of the inauguration of the Shahids’ memorial monument.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, February 2, 2005. Abu Iyad, Abu Al-Hol and Abu Muhammad all played major roles in planning the murder of Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics.]

1.B.7. Presenting the destruction of Israel as justice and the final stage of the peace process, with the extermination of Jews as the final stage of history

A repeated message in the Palestinian media is that since Israel is illegitimate, the Oslo agreement is the beginning of the process that will result in full justice: the destruction of Israel. The senior PA salaried religious leader, Ibrahim Mudayris, explained on PA TV that the goal of the diplomatic process - the 1967 borders - was a temporary goal. The ‘return’ to Israeli cities “Haifa, Jaffa, Lod, Ramle, Netanya and Tel Aviv” is merely postponed, until later “as Mohammad returned, as a conqueror.”

“We tell you Palestine, we shall return to you… We might return to the 1967 borders by diplomacy, but we won’t return to the 1948 borders [e.g. the elimination of Israel] by diplomacy. The 1948 borders - no one on earth recognizes as ours. Therefore, we shall return to the 1967 borders, but we have not given up on [Israeli cities] Jerusalem, and Haifa, Jaffa, Lod, Ramle, Netanya and Tel Aviv. Never. We shall return to every village we have been expelled from, by Allah’s will. Why? All the international laws deny the Palestinians their real borders. Our approval to return to the 1967 borders is not a concession for our other rights. No…! This generation might not achieve this stage, but generations will come, and the land of Palestine will demand the Palestinians return as Muhammad returned - as conqueror.” [PA TV, February 4, 2005]

“The day will come and we shall rule America. The day will come and we shall rule Britain, we shall rule the entire world, except the Jews. The Jews will not live under our rule agreeably permanently, since they have been treacherous in nature throughout history. A day will come when all shall rest from the Jews, even the tree and the stone, which have suffered from them. Listen to your Beloved [Muhammad], who tells you about the direst termination of the Jews. The tree and the stone want the Muslim to bring every Jew to his end. You all know the Hadith [anticipating the extermination of the Jews].” [Ibrahim Mudayris, PA TV, May 13, 2005]

1. US Funding

Since the PA is honoring and promoting terrorists as Shahids - the supreme honor in PA Islamic teaching - the PA is, according to US law, ineligible for direct US funding until it changes the names of all schools, sport centers, sporting events and teams, hospitals, etc. that are named for terrorists. The PA-owned and controlled daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida’s honoring of the suicide terrorist of February 25, 2005, by defining him as a Shahid, and PA TV calls for the destruction of Israel ands extermination of Jews, likewise render the PA ineligible for US funding. Many PA municipalities and ministries, including the Ministry of Education, Ministry of Heath, Ministry of Sport, Ministry of Finance and others are all ineligible for US funding because they honor terrorists.

The following are more examples of USAID money illegally going to Palestinian Authority ministries and infrastructures.

2.1. PA Ministry of Education and Higher Learning

All PA universities have active branches of Hamas and Islamic Jihad on campus, and the Ministry of Education has named numerous schools for terrorists. The Ministry is ineligible for aid under the terms of the 2005 Foreign Operations Bill, yet continues to receive money from the United States.

USAID support to universities and PA higher education - $41 Million Including specifically, Al-Quds, Bir Zeit, Al-Najah and Al-Azhar universities

“The Minister of Education and Higher Learning, Dr. Naim Abu Al-Hamtz, met yesterday with the Director of the US Agency for International Development (USAID), James Bever…

“Bever confirmed that the agency continues to support the sociological-psychological program for students and promised to support a new program for higher education, which includes importing equipment for faculties and supplies of books and also study guides for the university libraries, and in boarding school programs grants for students… The agreement was signed in collaboration with this institution … for a total of 12 million dollars to aid in the construction of schools.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, March 10, 2005]

“The Arkan Project, which is controlled by the United States, and the law faculties in Al-Najah University signed yesterday an understanding … that, in its framework, establishes collaboration between the two sides for the sake of developing law studies…

“The Arkan Project contains two central axes: one is developing law studies in Palestinian faculties for law … in the Al-Quds, Bir Zeit, Al-Najah and Al-Azhar universities…

“The Arkan Project will sign, at the beginning of next week, an understanding similar to Al-Quds University…

“The Project will be carried out by Kamonkas International … with the complete financing of the US Agency for International Development (USAID) for a total of about four million dollars.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, March 22, 2005]

“The plan to strengthen the ‘Arkan law,’ which is controlled by the United States, the understanding was signed with Bir Zeit University…

“The project was signed over the course of recent weeks in understandings similar to the law faculties in the Al-Azhar, Al-Quds and Al-Najah universities.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, April 2, 2005]

“This higher education program is part of an initiative of making quick improvements at the cost of 41 million dollars, an initiative of the US Agency of International Development.

[The components of this program:]

“Three and a half million dollars on new equipment supplies for technological colleges and vocational training…

“Two and a half million dollars for upgrading computer equipment and developing programs in twenty colleges…

“The acquisition of books, study-guides, subscriptions for electronic newspapers and basic data…” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, May 17, 2005]

2.2. Gaza Municipality Road Construction

“The Gaza Municipality began working on the [development] project of Al-Quds [Jerusalem] Street, funded by the American Agency for Development USAID, and with the assistance of the Local Authority Ministry.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, December 29, 2004]

It should be noted that the Gaza Municipality spent significant funds from its budget for road works to rename streets for Shahids and terrorists. See <#s1b21>Section 1.B.2.1 above.

“The Minister for Local Government, Jamal Al-Shubaki, met yesterday with the director of the American Agency for International Development (USAID) in the West Bank and Gaza, Jim Beaver, and his delegation, and discussed the issue of supplying aid for local committees and municipal elections… As for the projects carried out by the American Agency for Development, Shubaki pointed out the success of these projects, specifically the road projects…” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, January 14, 2005]

It should be noted that the PA municipalities have invested from their budgets to rename roads for Shahids and terrorists. See <#s1b21>Section 1.B.2.1 above.

“Regarding the projects that were performed by the US Agency for Development, Shubaki indicated the success of these projects, especially in the area of the roads.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, January 14, 2005]

2.3. Sports Centers

“The Khan Yunis municipality completed work in the district sports center project…

“The cost of establishing the district sports center was more than eight hundred thousand dollars, from financing by several donor countries … [including] the US Agency for International Development.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, February 13, 2005]

1. Palestinian Authority promotion of hatred of America

Despite receiving hundreds of millions of dollars in USAID funding, the Palestinian Authority continues to actively disseminate anti-American sentiment through its official media. Some recent examples follow.

“Where did Great Britain disappear? Where did the Czar’s Russia disappear? … In Allah’s will, He will get rid of the USA like he got rid of them. He caused Russia to disappear within a day, and He is the one who can remove the US and bring it down, and so He shall do it…

“We [Muslims] have ruled the world [in the past] and a day will come, by Allah, and we shall rule the world [again]. The day will come and we shall rule America. The day will come and we shall rule Britain, we shall rule the entire world, except the Jews.” [Ibrahim Mudayris, PA salaried Imam, PA TV, May 13, 2005]

“The proud Arab Iraqis are dealing with a barbarian invasion machine, that has targeted Iraq, the land of Iraq, the people of Iraq, the oil of Iraq and the will of the one and only united Arab Iraq…

“We are not terrorists… We are a people that love life and its land… We are not attacking anyone. We are a nation that seeks peace, goodness, lovers of life, justice and freedom, but nevertheless at the same time we are a people that grasps its land and honor until death and beyond…

“Is there aggression against anyone in this? Is there any terrorism, O terrorists, cruel [people] and murderers?

“O you who made Arab and Muslim land into a no-man’s land, who burned Iraq and the people of Iraq, who stole the oil of Iraq, its treasures and archeological artifacts, who destroyed the museums of Iraq, its houses, culture and economy, who is the [real] terrorist? The Arab, who defends his existence and the livelihood of his children, or you, who destroys, robs, kills, terrorizes, and causes everything to become disenfranchised and who invades…?!

“Be certain, that by your terror and aggression you will not make of this nation’s children anything but fighting leaders, and you will acquire for your sick souls nothing but shame, dishonor, and the curse of history for generations.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, January 20, 2005]

“The American attack, whose target was the Arab nation living in Palestine and Iraq, will be crushed on the rock of the firm stance of our Palestinian people, standing firmly and fighting the Jihad in Palestine, and on the rock of the strengthening and force of the national resistance in Iraq. The sun will rise after the darkness that was spread by the aggressive policy in the skies of our Arab homeland.

“The Yankee enemy is treacherous, even if it pretends to be a seeker of peace. The occupation remains an occupation and the culture of the resistance teaches me to resist it, even [if just] by writing of the deeds of the enemy.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, January 27, 2005]

“The United States and the Zionist Entity continue in their dark and hostile aggression toward the Arab and Islamic nation in order to eliminate every progressive, revolutionary and Jihadi faction within it and, afterwards, to subdue it and steal its treasures.” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, March 15, 2005]

“The Muslim remembers, how the Jews corrupted the land… O Muslims! The Jews are Jews. Their character and custom are the corruption and destruction of this land. We keep warning you: the Jews are a cancer that spreads inside the body of the Islamic and Arab nation…

“They invest in the East Asian countries, which were destroyed [by the Tsunami] because of the Jewish and American corruption and destruction.” [Ibrahim Mudayris, PA TV, January 7, 2005]

“Our prisoners are subjected to the most criminal kinds of physical torture. They are tied with chains and trussed up with iron chains, and hung by their feet from the ceiling, like animals are hung after slaughter for days. Many of them lose consciousness. Our prisoners are exposed to beating, electricity and fire tortures.

“The prisoners are exposed to conversion to Christianity, to abandoning religion, [as it was] in the distant past and recently. Yes, our prisoners are forced to curse Muhammad; our prisoners are forced to curse the religion of Allah, our prisoners are forced to curse the essence of divinity.

“Haven’t you heard of our prisoners in Palestine, have you not heard of our prisoners in Iraq, in Afghanistan, and all over the world, who are exploited and imprisoned, and are offered conversion to Christianity?

“This is an old - new infidel policy. Allah’s servant, Ibn Al-Hudhafa Al-Sahmi, totally refused this. The [Christian] Caesar told him: ‘We shall dip you in boiling oil’. He answered: ‘Do as you wish’. He arrived with two Muslims and was dipped in boiling oil until his flesh separated from his bone. But what the Caesar did was not as bad as what his followers do, the missionaries of freedom and democracy of today. In the name of Allah, what Caesar did, dipping Muslims in boiling oil, was one hundred thousand times lighter than what their soldiers are doing today to our wives and daughters in Iraq, in Palestine, in Guantanamo and in Abu Ghraib.

“What Caesar did is not as bad as five American soldiers who meet to rape one of our daughters, a girl who has the honor of a Muslim woman, in order to desecrate her honor at the Abu Ghraib prison.” [Ibrahim Mudayris, PA Imam, PA TV, April 15, 2005]

The irony of the PA taking US financial support with one hand while promoting hatred of the US with the other was strikingly apparent on May 14 this year. In the PA-owned official daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, a half-page advertisement was placed by USAID on the very same page that the PA daily ran a viciously anti-American cartoon.

Appendix

US 2005 Foreign Operations Bill

PROHIBITION ON ASSISTANCE TO THE PALESTINIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION

SEC. 558. None of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to provide equipment, technical support, consulting services, or any other form of assistance to the Palestinian Broadcasting Corporation.

WEST BANK AND GAZA PROGRAM

SEC. 559. (a) OVERSIGHT- For fiscal year 2005, 30 days prior to the initial obligation of funds for the bilateral West Bank and Gaza Program, the Secretary of State shall certify to the appropriate committees of Congress that procedures have been established to assure the Comptroller General of the United States will have access to appropriate United States financial information in order to review the uses of United States assistance for the Program funded under the heading `Economic Support Fund’ for the West Bank and Gaza.

(b) VETTING- Prior to the obligation of funds appropriated by this Act under the heading `Economic Support Fund’ for assistance for the West Bank and Gaza, the Secretary of State shall take all appropriate steps to ensure that such assistance is not provided to or through any individual, private or government entity, or educational institution that the Secretary knows or has reason to believe advocates, plans, sponsors, engages in, or has engaged in, terrorist activity. The Secretary of State shall, as appropriate, establish procedures specifying the steps to be taken in carrying out this subsection and shall terminate assistance to any individual, entity, or educational institution which he has determined to be involved in or advocating terrorist activity.

(c) PROHIBITION- None of the funds appropriated by this Act for assistance under the West Bank and Gaza program may be made available for the purpose of recognizing or otherwise honoring individuals who commit, or have committed, acts of terrorism.

(d) AUDITS-

(1) The Administrator of the United States Agency for International Development shall ensure that Federal or non-Federal audits of all contractors and grantees, and significant subcontractors and subgrantees, under the West Bank and Gaza Program, are conducted at least on an annual basis to ensure, among other things, compliance with this section.

(2) Of the funds appropriated by this Act under the heading `Economic Support Fund’ that are made available for assistance for the West Bank and Gaza, up to $1,000,000 may be used by the Office of the Inspector General of the United States Agency for International Development for audits, inspections, and other activities in furtherance of the requirements of this subsection. Such funds are in addition to funds otherwise available for such purposes.

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I’m sick of the Palestinians bitching about how persecuted they are, while they’re acting like such assholes! Who in their right mind would even waste their time sticking up for these bastards? To Hell with ‘em!

I heard on the news yesterday where Pentagon officials are secretly negotiating with insurgents in Iraq?

Negotiating?! I thought our gorvernment vowed never to negotiate with terrorists! What the hell are we even over there for? We are actually begging them not to attack us? Has our government turned into a bunch of pussies all of a sudden?!

Folks, keep your kids out of the military. Look how little our government cares about them.

Fayyad vastly embiggens the world’s crapulence.

Good riddance to smelly terrorist garbage!

“Fayyad vastly embiggens the world’s crapulence.”

My dad ghastly envisions the world’s flatulence.

Fundamentalist Muslim mythology has it that terrorist “martyrs” are greeted in heaven by 72 virgins. With Palestinian Arabs increasingly making use of female suicide bombers, we’ve often wondered what they get in heaven. Now we have the answer, thanks to a report in London’s Sunday Telegraph from an Israeli prison:

‘My dream was to be a suicide bomber. I wanted to kill 20, 50 Jews. Yes, even babies’

One of the inmates, Ayat Allah Kamil, 20, from Kabatya, told me why she had wanted to become a martyr: “Because of my religion. I’m very religious. For the holy war [jihad] there’s no difference between men and women shaid [martyrs].”

According to the Koran, male martyrs are welcomed to Paradise by 72 beautiful virgins. Ayat, as with many of the women she is incarcerated with, believes that a woman martyr “will be the chief of the 72 virgins, the fairest of the fair.”

That is to say, the highest aspiration for a fundamentalist Palestinian girl is murder, suicide and prostitution. Has there ever been a more depraved culture?

http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/06/26/wmid26.xml

“That is to say, the highest aspiration for a fundamentalist Palestinian girl is murder, suicide and prostitution. Has there ever been a more depraved culture?”

That’s not what Islam really teaches, nor is the anti-Jewish/anti-Christian crap Fayyad espouses. The sooner extremists like Fayyad and all those wacko terrorists are put out of business, the better off this world will be.

I read that article at the Telegraph. I’d like to hear from some Muslims who can confirm or deny that what the Palestinian girl in the article did is allowed in Islam.

It’s not just allowed - it’s required!

The Koran calls for the death of everyone who is not muslim. One needs only buy a copy of the Koran, either the ones used by the the Arab world in Arabic, or an english version that is not edited like the American version, and one will see Islam is a religion of death and destruction.

Of course Christianity has also been the religion of death and destruction, as has almost every other religion at one time or another.

“It’s not just allowed - it’s required!”

“The Koran calls for the death of everyone who is not muslim. One needs only…”

Hold it! I was expecting someone who is an actual authority on Islam. Here’s an example of the kind of superior intellect you’re dealing with:

Updated: 8:32 a.m. ET June 29, 2005

LODI, Calif. - A mosque has fired a religious leader accused of speaking out against the United States and supporting Osama bin Laden in the wake of the 2001 terrorist attacks.

Shabbir Ahmed, 39, is one of two imams detained on immigration charges as part of an FBI investigation into alleged terror activities in the Islamic community in Lodi, a wine-growing region about 30 miles south of Sacramento.

The mosque's board of directors unanimously voted to fire Ahmed in a special session Sunday night, said Mohammed Shoaib, president of Lodi Muslim Mosque. Story continues below ↓ advertisement

"We don't want that kind of person who has spoken against the United States," Shoaib said.

So stop writing all this crap about the Koran requiring the killing of any and all non-Muslims. No religion would ever survive into this modern age if it did. Real Muslims do not advocate killing anyone so gratuitously or for mere political advancement. And neither does Christianity or Judaism or Buddhism, etc.

So all the Sunni murder of Shites in Iraq is just a misunderstanding? And here I thought it was some kind of religious thing, silly me.

Then there’s the “troubles” in Northern Ireland, again foolish me thought there was religious dimension to the argument.

I go now chastened and enlightened by my bettors (tugging me forelock I shamble away).

There once was a moron — Fayyad. He aspired to be a clod. He never had brains, And was clearly insane, And now he promotes global jihad.