“I look forward to the more honest and immaculate elections Wisconsin will no doubt experience with the passage of this indispensable proposal.”

1) Don’t we already have ID requirements?

2) A better first step, and a more effective one, is to ban corporate dirty money from elections. What’s less honest than buying political favors and legislation? Or politicians actually following campaign promises, or stopping slandering opponents… all good first steps.

3) The bigger concern with voter fraud should be with the more deliberate Diebold-like fraud, you know, with voting companies promising elections for one party or another, massive numbers of votes missing, and thousands of eligible voters disenfranchised. Again, a result of corruption, not lack of ID.

anonymous…no we don’t have any ID regulations whatsoever

You have to understand, those against voter IDs are those who feel that it is wrong to keep the dead and illegal from voting as many times as possible.

There is no right to vote, the Constitution only states that voting cannot be denied based on race, sex, etc.

As much as I have disagreed with you in the past, I agree with you on this.

Why do we have to go to the polls at all when everyone of us has a unique social security number? We could vote over the phone or internet… that would be if “they” actually wanted a strong turn-out.

Your shock and awe about the lack of support for this provision simply demonstrates your lack of understanding of the issue. A photo ID requirement would disenfranchise vast amounts of voters - particularly the poor, the elderly, the young, and minorities who are less likely to have a photo ID (or the means and the need to obtain one) than your average upper-middle class white voter. If, perhaps, state-issued ID’s were paid for by the state, rather than the individual, then maybe, maybe, this measure would make sense. Otherwise, it’s simply another way to ‘ensure valid elections’ that truly serves to disenfranchise.

Wisconsin does need a voter photo ID law. I remember when I talked to my dad back home during the last election: they asked for his name, didn’t ask for any proof, and handed him a ballot. Had he wanted to, he could have gone back to the polls later, talked to someone different, used my name, and they STILL would have given him another ballot.

Those that honestly care about elections should be proactive about obtaining a valid photo ID. If you don’t feel the need to get a photo ID, then should you really be voting in the first place?

I cannot even get into bars sometimes because gasp I cut and dyed my hair since I was 19 (when the photo was taken). If I was turned away from voting becasue I don’t have half a day to go out to the DMV and pay to get a new ID I would be upset. Think of the old women who work the polls - would they really know a fake ID if it came in to vote anyways?

Obviously someone (12:00) has fallen for the garbage put out by the Democratic party regarding disenfranchisement. You need a valid ID to cash a check, you need an ID to get a job (legally), you need an ID to fill out Social Security forms or the public assistance forms, you need a valid ID for pretty much everything you do. If one does not have a valid ID, it is either because they are too lazy to get one (walk, drive, or take the bus to DMV), aren't smart enough to get one, or they are not legally able to get one.

As stated before, there is no Constitutional right to vote, and a vote cannot be denied because of race or sex, and there can be no poll tax. There is NOTHING that prevents (as it should be) a law requiring a valid ID to vote.

Maybe to make everyone happy we could have a punch card system. This way we have to show our ID but after the seventh election we get a free hat. - Germain E. Stemme

Nope, I shouldn’t need an ID to vote, unless it is given to me automatically. Otherwise, it would constitute as a poll tax. Yes, I need to carry a license to drive, a social security number for taxes and benefits, etc., but I shouldn’t need any identification to vote in the USA. Yes, I need to have proof that I am a resident and that I’ve reached the required age, but the government doesn’t need to know my name or anything else.

You need an ID to catch fish but not vote?

But then what’s really more important?

If you are poor, old, or both, and can get to the polls to vote, then you can get a frickin id. its the damn democrats that are voting more than once because they cant win an election without sending people on buses to different polling stations so they can vote more than once.

“If, perhaps, state-issued ID’s were paid for by the state, rather than the individual, then maybe, maybe, this measure would make sense. Otherwise, it’s simply another way to ‘ensure valid elections’ that truly serves to disenfranchise.”

@12…read the bill, this is one of the provisions, if you do not already have an ID, you can get one for free.

To the poster claiming that there is nothing that prevents this sort of law from taking effect:

Please see http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/27/AR2005102702171.html

As long as this state continues to charge for the ability to obtain an ID, precedent suggests that we’ll have an awfully hard time convincing a court that such a setup is inherently different from a poll tax.

3:11

You do not have to prove you are a resident, you are required to a be a citizen (big difference). You should have to prove you are who you say you are. Otherwise, I could go up, claim I am someone who died 2 days ago and vote (see the first Daly election in Chicago, “vote early, vote often”).

The poll tax arguement is bogus, but leave to those who want the dead to vote (for Democrats of course) to think of this crock.

Is there a charge to get a social security card?

ONE SS NUMBER, ONE VOTE.

However, we are Americans and cannot figure out anything electronic, so an electronic tally system is out of the question.

USA, USA!!

You already provide an ID to register to vote. No one can get around that. This bill is meant to disenfranchise many voters. I can think immediately of a group of people whose turnout numbers would vastly decrease: STUDENTS. students are a transient population and don’t update their id’s every time they move.

Voter Id is a ridiculous bill.

You are wrong 6:07, while you are asked to show an ID right now, they will allow you to vote without one.

A SS card is not an ID without a picture. Wouldn’t it stink if you went to register your vote and you found that someone had already used your SSN? I know no one would ever do such a thing, but in an evil world, there could be an effort to steal SSNs for this purpose (but never to steal an ID)

Okay, all the people against the voter ID bill need to face the facts: the Democrats are only against it because it could possibly hurt their voter turnout. And not even their LEGIT voter turnout. Voter fraud goes on like crazy in Milwaukee. Every year more people vote than are registered (and don’t tell me Milwaukee has 100% turnout + new voter registration). The city (run by democrats) even buys thousands of extra ballots over the amount registered in case of such an event (which surely does happen)

It’s the same reason why Hillary wants all felons to vote. The majority of felons are Democrats, and that would bolster their voting base.

5:04PM—I mean being a resident of whatever polling district I reside in.

How do you intend to determine citizenship without violating privacy?

I am concerned about privacy above all else. The government has no business tracking anything I do without probable cause.