University of Wisconsin officials have spent a considerable amount of time and energy this semester expressing their displeasure with student behavior at Camp Randall Stadium.
Among their concerns is the notorious "Eat shit, fuck you!" chant that pops up sporadically in the student section, which is often loud enough to be heard in every corner of the stadium. While it's unlikely to offend the sensibilities of many in the student section, more than a few Badger fans have complained that the tradition creates an uncomfortable atmosphere, especially for those attending games with young children.
According to Chancellor John Wiley, who frequently entertains big donors in his private box, the chant has also turned prospective philanthropists sour on the idea of contributing scholarship money to such a vulgar student body. In addition to the loss of an unknown number of scholarship dollars, Mr. Wiley told us last month he worries the chant could also get the university sanctioned by the Big Ten conference for unsportsmanlike conduct. A sanction, he said, would likely mean either paying fines or "losing things that matter in the competition," citing specifically the loss of athletic scholarships or points in the game.
While we suspect Mr. Wiley's concerns are a bit overstated, we also trust the chancellor enough to believe what he says has some validity. The question must be asked, then, if the benefits UW students accrue from continuing the chant — the joy of bellowing profanities in unison, the satisfaction of defying authority — outweigh both the wounded sensibilities of our fellow game day attendees and any actual losses of income to the university.
It seems clear to us the answer is no.
The more interesting question, we think, is how to go about stopping a student section of more than 10,000 people — many of whom are drunk — from chanting en masse. Unfortunately, we're not the only ones short on ideas.
"We've got to get a handle on this, but I don't have a clue how to do it," Mr. Wiley told us last month. When we asked the same question to Doug Griese, chair of the Wisconsin Alumni Association board, he jokingly suggested deploying a fire hose on the student section may be the only solution.
Problems with student conduct at football games go far beyond an unsavory chant, of course. More concerning than the masses shouting profanities at no one in particular is the harassing, abusive behavior some UW fans target at specific individuals donning the road team's colors. While good-natured antagonism and friendly rivalry is part of the fun of being a sports fan, it appears Madison residents are earning a reputation for crossing that line far too often.
"As we approached the stadium area, particularly on Randall Street, we were heckled, cursed at and called a wide variety of vulgar names," one Michigan State alumnus wrote in an e-mail to UW after a Badgers-Spartans football game this fall. "After the game on our way back to our cars we were confronted by large numbers of students on Lathrop Street chanting obscenities and directing us to 'get the F out of town.' On more than one occasion we literally had students screaming in our faces, cursing at my wife, at my friends and me. … [W]e have never run across the mean spirited nature of the students we saw on your campus."
That is but one example of the complaints UW officials regularly field regarding fan behavior. These do not appear to be isolated incidents, and it should be noted, too, that the author of that e-mail was evidently no rookie to watching the Spartans outside East Lansing — he said he has visited seven other Big Ten football stadiums.
More police presence, more competent security staff and the continuation of UW's "Rolling out the Red Carpet" initiative all can help to alleviate problems like the ones this fan encountered, but those types of initiatives will not come close to curtailing the environment perpetuated by students' profanity-laced chants.
The real impetus for change, on all counts, rests with UW students. It is encouraging that Mr. Wiley and the Athletic Department both said Saturday's home finale against Michigan went better than expected, and we hope that momentum can continue through the winter sports season, and especially next fall.
This is our university, our campus and our city. As students, we should strive to be good representatives and good hosts, and, out of a basic respect for people, we should do what we can to make football Saturdays enjoyable for all.





IP hash: 82fba47d
Where is Ms. Nix (and her boyfriend-thug) on this one? To summarize, her open letter to Ch. Wiley reads like this: Police, don’t treat us like animals! Don’t forget you’re paid to kiss our behinds!
Let us remind ourselves that UW football games are just hosted events, just like concerts. It’s not a public street, it’s not your bedroom, it’s not your bathroom. It is a privilege, an entitlement, you must pay for. If the hosts don’t you like you, they can revoke your ticketed entitlement. That’s the end of your rights, however unfortunate that may be.
IP hash: 24dab9ab
The police would be arrested if they treated animals as badly as they treat people.
IP hash: 1c16169d
Am I the only person alive who hates the “Eat shit, fuck you” chant not for its vulgarity, but because it’s completely lame and it just sucks?
I’m all for unique cheers that might involve swearing, but the attitude of “La la la, look at us, we’re so hilarious because we can swear REALLY LOUD when we all do it at one time OMGZ kewl!” is embarrassing.
IP hash: abf792d8
Walking toward State St., away from Camp Randall on the day of the Michigan game, I passed three very drunk male students shouting vulgarities at Michigan fans across Johnson Avenue at about 11am. They were a disgrace to the university. Idiot adolescent drunks, lacking imagination and public civility. There isn’t one solution to this problem. But one plank of a solution has to be an effort to ostracize this kind of behavior, and that effort has to come from fellow students among others. It can’t only come from the police and administration. Students have to speak against this conduct WHEN IT HAPPENS and model other kinds of social interaction and good will. The culture has to change, and that’s a slow and incremental process. So is all progress. Good luck with the loser boozers.
IP hash: 0503adb2
the chant is just so STUPID…plus it’s offensive.
IP hash: f29167f9
This is almost EXACTLY the same opinion article that was written two years ago when we beat Michigan here.
I recommend that Michigan fans look in their own mirrors to see if their criticisms of us hold any merit when they play their arch-nemesis Ohio State.
I should also add that fans who are in the student sections at Camp Randall wearing the wrong colors (e.g. Maize and Blue) should expect what’s coming to them - a bunch of swearing and booing and/or fisticuffs. I have seen this happen on several occasions, including that fateful game two years ago. You don’t do that; that is, you don’t, as a visiting fan, invade the home team’s student section and not expect something bad to happen to you.
Here’s another example: what happened to those conservatives who showed up three years ago at the John Kerry rally downtown? They were booed and “Asshole-chanted” out.
One last thing. Let’s not compare football games to concerts. A football game is a spectacle and viable entertainment with lots of pride at stake. I don’t think the Romans were just sitting quietly in their seats during the fights in the Coliseum. If anyone ever gets to go down to Texas, go watch a high school football game anywhere on a Friday night. I have. I’ll stick my head out and say that some of those crowds are even rowdier than here, and most of them are grown-up, mostly sober, people!
IP hash: eedcfb9f
That’s absolutely ridiculous. Nobody should be subject to ‘fisticuffs’ at a football game, no matter what team they root for or where they sit. I certainly hope that if you practice what you preach, you get what’s coming to you: Some time in jail and a criminal record to explain to prospective employers.