In every discussion that takes place regarding different groups in society, the most important thing one can do when attempting to formulate an informed opinion is to hear from all of the relevant perspectives. This idea is certainly no less true when it comes to conversations centered on racial issues.
However, when it comes to discussions of race, it is a rare occasion that we hear from the perspective of a white person. Just to make it absolutely clear what I’m saying, I am not trying to suggest we don’t hear from enough white people. Rather, when white people comment on racial issues, we fail to express any of our personal experiences in dealing with race as a white person and really fail to help anyone understand how being white has influenced our perspective on racial issues.
In my mind, this perspective is on the same level of importance as hearing perspectives from minority groups. Much in the same way white people will never be able to truly understand what it is like to be a person or color in America, or a student of color at UW-Madison, the same limitations prevent non-whites from fully understanding what it’s like to be from the racial majority in America. The lifetime of experiences that comes with living on a daily basis as a member of any given race, whether it’s black, white or purple, are impossible to replicate.
Just like, as a white person, I will never know what it’s like to go through life as the member of an underrepresented group, those from dissimilar demographics will never know what it is like to go through life as the member of the majority demographic. And just like being a member of those different minority demographics likely has a profound impact on the way you view racial issues, the various demographic groups that I identify with have an equally profound impact on how I come to view racial issues.
While I certainly don’t have the space to sufficiently articulate all the ways that being white has come to influence my perspectives on racial issues, I think there is one way so important that it merits mentioning — the decision to even start discussing racial issues in the first place. Most white people will never be forced to enter a discussion on race. We will never be the only white person in the room when a race issue comes up and have everyone turn to us, expecting us to speak for all white people on the subject. We will likely never have anyone use racial slurs to insult us. As a result, we are essentially the only demographic that is able to avoid addressing racial issues to any reasonable degree of success.
Given this option, there are many white people who choose to never bother entering into discussions of racial issues in the first place. Of course, there are many benefits to participating in racial dialogues, but there is a reason that Attorney General Eric Holder was justified when he said that we were “essentially a nation of cowards” when it came to discussing issues of race. The potential downside can be so great that it’s just not worth it.
What is this downside? Namely, being labeled a racist. The thought that potential employers might one day Google your name and see accusations of racism is enough to deter many people from even taking on the risk of discussing race in the first place. The number of high-profile careers ruined by accusations of racism is substantial enough that examples aren’t even necessary. This is more of a deterrent to white people in discussing racial issues than I feel most people who aren’t white can imagine.
Whether or not it is true, most white people perceive accusations of racism to solely be settled by the members of the minority group in question. If you say something about black people and Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson says you are a racist, you have no defense. As a racial minority, they get to act as judge, jury and executioner. Your defense doesn’t matter. After all, you’re just a white person. What do you know about racism?
Even white people who do discuss racial issues are impacted by this fear. Most of them choose one of two tactics. Option one is to find an opinion on the issue that is shared by an underrepresented racial group. After all, if a person of color says it, it can’t be racist, right? Either that or claim to be colorblind. The thought process is that no one can really prove or disprove whether or not you see race, and if someone is colorblind, they obviously can’t be a racist.
In reality, any claims of a colorblind approach are utterly false. No one is colorblind. Claims of colorblindness are just a way for white people to express their opinions on race while being able to put up what they believe to be a credible defense for not being racist.
Moral of the story: if you’re a white person, it’s time to own up to the fact that being white has a substantial impact on how you view race, because no matter what you say, you’re not colorblind; if you’re not, keep telling white people what it’s like to live in America as a member of an underrepresented group. We will probably never truly understand. But at the same time, realize that you won’t ever understand what it’s like to be white and, just like we need to make an effort to understand how you see things, you owe it to us to reciprocate that effort.
Patrick McEwen ([email protected]) is a junior majoring in nuclear engineering.






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Well put, Pat. Only a liberal would label your article as “dumb.” Oh, I see one already has! But it goes to show that the mere fact that there is always a liberal waiting to pounce with name-calling is all the reason whites need to avoid participation in discussions about race.
After a while, you come to the realization that such discussions serve only that purpose. No one is interested in reaching out to whites anyway. They never were. The only whites they tolerate are the ones who try to prove they aren’t racist by either self-deprecating or randomly accusing other whites of being racist.
Kinda makes the whole effort an exercise in futility. And most of us are well past the guilt anyway, so f* it.
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I agree wholeheartedly with what Pat said, but I would not be so quick to “pounce on liberals” by making broad-based assumptions about what they might believe and how they might act.
The goal of Pat’s article was to logically and reasonably explain why other points of view are valuable in racial discourse. Your comment, however, seems to deaden future conversation by throwing more assumptions around.
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Assumptions? 10:07AM told the down and out truth, dude! You are yet another example of the hypocrisy of liberals. You think that everything you do is for a good reason, even if it’s something blatantly wrong. All of your wrongs are perfectly justified. Well, that’s about to change. We can still bring you down with nothing more than apathy. And we will. You’re not taking over anything, punk.
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“In reality, any claims of a colorblind approach are utterly false. No one is colorblind. Claims of colorblindness are just a way for white people to express their opinions on race while being able to put up what they believe to be a credible defense for not being racist.”
Where’s your evidence? Do you know what colorblind means?
If your view is that people’s ideas - e.g., choosing to regard race as an irrelevant factor - are determined by their race, then why have a discussion? After all, anything you say is just some rationalization that “white people” use to cope. Since you purport to know what white people claim without even meeting them, why have a discussion? Just tell me your skin color and I’ll tell you what you believe.
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That’s not what Pat said. He simply acknowledged that white people come from a different background that affects their thoughts and perceptions and there is really no way to deny that. The environment you grow up in has a huge impact on your life, and that’s the essence of his argument.
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I am of caucasian ancestry but I don’t have a clue what Patrick means by a ‘white view’. I’ve lived and worked in several areas of the country where I was the minority. I know first hand what discrimination is because I have experienced it first hand. Not ‘reverse discrimination’ or any other politically correct evasion of truth, just plain old fashioned discrimination.
I also attended UW-Madison, when Donna Shalala was the Chancelor and racial crimes were only counted as such if it was ‘white on black’ crime. When 4 ‘afro-americans’ kicked the crap out of a citizen while hurling racial epithets at him, it was not deemed a racial crime. It was clearly criminal discrimination and brutal assault but not adjudicated as such because the administration in power would not permit it. You see, discrimination was narrowly defined as only being words or actions from a majority person or group that affected a minority person or group. The cowards that Eric Holder unintentionally refered to are those that promote one-sided racial perspectives and greater than equal opportunity agendas. You’ll find them in positions of power, pursuing their one-sided agendas.
Hope….. change……
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You can look up the definition in a webster dictionary, but i am pretty sure that was written by whites as well. Sociologically thinking, to be racist, one must be in the group of people who has power in the country to change discrimination. therefore, blacks beating up a white would not be racist. you can read more of a sociologists view in “portraits of white racism” or a quicker sum on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism#Sociological or take a(nother) sociology class.
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That’s crap. Sociological, politically correct, one sided agenda, greater than equal opportunity, racist crap. You will find Eric Holders designated “cowards” in sociology classes as well. They hide behind weasel worded racist definitions and one sided agenda “thinking”.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RacistSociologicalCrap or take your first Thinking And Speaking Honestly, For Personal Integrity class.
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“Sociologically thinking, to be racist, one must be in the group of people who has power in the country to change discrimination. therefore, blacks beating up a white would not be racist.”
Ah, so now we’re starting to hear what minorities have in store for whites! OK, shithead, go ahead and see what happens next. See if whites just stand there and put up with your hateful BS. Get ready, it’s coming.
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“…to be racist, one must be in the group of people who has power in the country to change discrimination. therefore, blacks beating up a white would not be racist.”
Hey, just because you lack the power to discriminate doesn’t mean you can’t go out and commit a hate crime. And it is still a hate crime because you attacked the person because of his/her race. So don’t sit there and try to weasel your way out of a situation with ultra-left-wing BS. Also, remember that Wisconsin is overwhelmingly conservative, and that’s not necessarily a bad thing. If you think that being here in cozy, cushy little Madison, Wisconsin will offer you protection from actual racists elsewhere, you better head back to south Chicago, pal!
Liberals in Madison and Milwaukee are still less than 1/5th of the population of this state. They can’t even get a gay marriage bill passed! On the other hand, if you want to just piss people off by bashing whites, males and heterosexuals thinking it’s going to help your cause, then you’ve been drinking way too much Kool-aid, my friend. Do you honestly think that laying a guilt trip on innocent whites will win you any votes? Do you really believe that beating up white guys on the streets of Madison will throw a scare into the white supremacists in Beloit, Janesville and Mercer? That’s exactly what they’re hoping you’ll do! It helps their cause by giving them yet another news story to clip out of the newspaper and post on their websites.
It’s called being careful what you ask for, and you better start being careful. You may feel like a bad-ass because you’re here in Madison, but elsewhere you’ll get your butt kicked the first time you open your mouth with that crap.
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But being white means having white privilege, most do not even realize what this is or that you even have it. I agree with patrick in that everyone has a voice. This is true. Part of the process of understanding and learning about these things is to talk about them.
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So what do you want us to do about it? Stand there and be discriminated against? Fat chance, pal!
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I do know what you’re trying to say. I was just saying you should understand and realize it and go from there. It’s part of a very long process.
-Toast
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“If you say something about black people and Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson says you are a racist…”
Who cares what these two clowns think? They both are nothing more than race-baiters. They deserve as much attention in our society as paint drying on the wall.
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The reason this is dumb is because the author clearly has no idea what he is talking about.
“We will never be the only white person in the room when a race issue comes up and have everyone turn to us, expecting us to speak for all white people on the subject.”
Is this for real? I am a White person and I have been this situation before and had open, honest discussions. It is sad that someone who has never been the only white person in a crowd is writing to the rest of us about race relations.
In addition, to the overall point of the article: there is a reason why Whites do not and should not have their opinions on race taken as seriously of those in the minority. While yes, you are correct that we do have a completely different perspective, the important point is that our perspective is lergely unexamined and on the periphery on a daily basis. Put simply, we dont have a qualified perspective on race b/c we dont think about it as often as people of color who have been thinking about it frequently their entire lives. They have been forced to think about it much more than us and therefore possess more knowledge,insight, and perspective.
Here is an imperfect analogy: say that you are taking some class, yet you do not attend very often. However, there is another student that goes to every single class. Now, a third student shows up who needs to be taught the material by one of them. Who should teach them? Yes, you are surely affected by the class and most certainly have your own perspective, but it is the student who is regularly exposed to the material that would teach it better, have a better grasp of the material, and thus should dominate the dialogue. (That is unless you are saying that the absent student is somehow naturally smarter than the regular attender, a premise that would be quite bigoted if extrapolated to our race conversation).
Put simply, those with better knowledge in a debate should have the upper hand. That is not to say that White’s should be left out (and Whites are not left out currently), it just means that the people who know the true effect of a racialized society are the minorities that are most affected by it.
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Your class attendance analogy is incredibly flawed. It’s not necessarily about knowledge total knowledge about the situation. The points is that everyone brings a unique and important perspective to the discussion; one that is heavily influenced by their race.
I think the impact of what Patrick is talking about happens all the time in campus diversity discussions. Quite a few students of color phrase what they have to say in ways that just aren’t going to resonate with white people.
For example I think what a previous commenter said is a great example: “But being white means having white privilege, most do not even realize what this is or that you even have it.” As a white person, I hate when people tell me that I have white privilege and that I don’t understand or know what that is or means. Whatever you definite it as, to me that term implies that just because I don’t face discrimination because of my race or some of the same challenges that students of color do, somehow I haven’t earned anything that I’ve accomplished and instead have been handed it because I was white. I frankly find this as offensive as the students of color do when they’re told they didn’t deserve to be admitted to this university and are only here because of their race.
I think a potentially more relevant analogy would be only listening to climatologists when discussing climate change. Yes they spend the most time thinking about the problems at hand, but we need not only there perspective, but that of economists, engineers and others if we are going to be successful in implementing any solutions.
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I disagree with you. I find that the class attendance analogy to be very effective in this situation. Yes, to every argument there are different opinions, but I’m confident when I say that not every opinion is equal to another.
Your little rant about white privilege also shows me that you really are not aware of your white privileges. It doesn’t simply mean that everything is handed to you; it means that race will never be an issue for you when you apply for a job position, when you walk into a store or even when you watch TV because your culture, your values and your race is so heavily represented. Because of this heavy representation you are privileged because you don’t have to worry about your race or your “people” you can focus on your own goals.
To clear this, I’d like to put an analogy: When a white customer walks into a store to purchase shampoo, they can find a whole aisle designated for that; however, when a black customer goes into the same store and the same aisle, he or she will find that none of the products meet his or her needs for hair treatment.
This is in no way an exaggeration, in fact, it happens everyday. You never have to worry about representing your race or finding products specific to your race because everything is already made for you and your race. I don’t think you realized this because, guess what? You do not understand your white privileges.
Now Patrick, I understand your argument that both sides need to be considered but I don’t think you’ve realized that the white side has been argued for for so long and that the minority side has just started voicing out, I think instead of taking time to find a “neutral” argument you should take time to listen to both sides and try to find your own truth.
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The comments posted here bashing whites is all the justification whites need to avoid any participation in race dialogue. Whites have rights and we’ll defend those rights if it means depriving you of yours. Get used to it!
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I see Stormfront is leaking…
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Yeah, it’s always some white supremacist posting. Anyone who refuses to put up with your crap is automatically a racist, huh? F* off, liberal asshole!
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so minority students need to submit to the majority, haven’t we fought this war once? ulitimatly that’s the conclusion of the opinion. it’s time to be progressive and move forward on this issue… you kept repeating “whites are the majority” (yes they are here on campus), it just exasperates the problem.
But Pat a least you care to articulate your ideas on this issue…and for that i give you credit, even though i don’t agree with some of the things in the opinion.
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This comment board looks like the sign-in for a klan meeting.
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Nope, it’s just putting you left-wing extremists in your place. Payback’s a bitch, ain’t it?
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With all the sophisticated racist/bigotry rhetoric being expounded, a specific topic is NEVER addressed. In our society we all are aware it is acceptable & fashionable to bash Roman Catholicism - this is a fact! The Pope is mocked/ridiculed in cartoons & in stage presentations such offenses are never seriously condemned by academia, however, there is never any mention of the the prophet Mohammed in similar vanes, not even in to the slightest degree - Double standard? You bet! This hypocrisy is rampant & in our hearts we all know it is true. I do not promote lampooning the Prophet, nor any other religious figure or belief - apparently, the fear of a race riot or terrorist attack disuades many who can always find a soft ‘victim’ in anything Catholic. I seek no favoritism, merely justice & fairness in these matters, but then again we all know …..
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Hey Joe, Catholics did their damage throughout the ages! Catholics were the first anti-Semites. They were the ones who invented the conversion or death routine. Catholics also imprisoned and executed anyone who disagreed with them on church doctrine. Also, remember that Adolph Hitler was a Catholic. The Vatican essentially ordered all Catholic clergy to turn their heads while 13 million people, including 6 million Jews, were sent to their deaths by Hitler’s Nazi killing machine. Catholics only started helping Jews and others escape the Nazis when they learned that the Americans were coming. Then and ONLY then did they start to help.
In 1965, The Vatican finally decided to end its ages-old proclamation of collective guilt of Jews for the execution of Jesus Christ—twenty years after the end of the Holocaust! Why not sooner? Catholics knew damn well Jesus was put to death by the pagan Romans, by a Roman ruler who could’ve easily set Jesus free.
Yes, Joe, Catholics have a great many sins to atone for and it won’t do you a bit of good to cower down and play the victim, not after all the innocents you Catholics slaughtered in the past 2,000 years. Get used to it!
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But the Muslims have YET to stop cutting off the heads of those who don’t bow to their Moon God. Are we just supposed to get used to that?
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Nope, we can lean on Muslims just as hard. Both Catholics and Muslims have caused a lot of shit lately. Kick ‘em both out of this hemisphere.